Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[DD_fruitbat]

The reason i have both, is the ability to fly with people who have just one or the other within the dangerdogz and others.

 

There have been rollouts where we have to use stable, as the beta by its very nature, occasionally porks something that means we can't do what we intended.

 

We run both stable and beta servers, and whilst the vast majority of my time is on beta, cause i like shiny new stuff, having the option is useful to me within the squad paradigm. 

[DD_Arthur]

3 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

squad paradigm. 

 

Can I have chips with that please?

[Monostripezebra]

On 8/16/2021 at 4:18 PM, DD_fruitbat said:

I think its my distinct lack of enthusiasm for the flight models that I'm thinking of uninstalling..

 

I mean, MSFS is definately a very mixed bag.. But on the GA side it has definately something to offer. 

 

I gotta say, Carenado got really good with their stuff, the C170 is awesome as a bushplane and the Senaca is also pretty darn fun!

 

[Bremspropeller]

The only problem with Carenado is their systems-depth is about about as accurate as a flying manhole cover's.

[Monostripezebra]

1 hour ago, Bremspropeller said:

The only problem with Carenado is their systems-depth is about about as accurate as a flying manhole cover's.

 

True.. but in the end, a bushplane Chessna is not really needing it.. I am having a ton of fun with the C170

 

[Feathered_IV]

Nearly bought the new  Nieuport 17 from Big Radials.   Very glad I did not.

 

[ZachariasX]

47 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

Nearly bought the new  Nieuport 17 from Big Radials.   Very glad I did not.

It does look very bland. Also, I hate if they implement rotaries to be run as your average Lycoming.

[DD_fruitbat]

On 8/20/2021 at 5:59 PM, Monostripezebra said:

 

I mean, MSFS is definately a very mixed bag.. But on the GA side it has definately something to offer. 

 

I gotta say, Carenado got really good with their stuff, the C170 is awesome as a bushplane and the Senaca is also pretty darn fun!

 

 

With refence to GA flying, I think you're right.

 

I have just realized that GA flying is not for me!

[SYN_Vander]

On 8/20/2021 at 6:59 PM, Monostripezebra said:

 

I mean, MSFS is definately a very mixed bag.. But on the GA side it has definately something to offer. 

 

I gotta say, Carenado got really good with their stuff, the C170 is awesome as a bushplane and the Senaca is also pretty darn fun!

 

 

Where is that nice valley Zebra?

 

[Monostripezebra]

6 hours ago, SYN_Vander said:

 

Where is that nice valley Zebra?

 

 

That airfield is U54 Bernard Airstrip from the forrestry service.. there are ton of great bush strips modeled in MSFS for the idaho area, especially along the Big Creek. One of the famous ones, Dewey Moore, however is missing..  but it can be found by flying west from 198D Vines Airstrip.

 

Be warned, though.. it is not really compatible with big aircraft.

 

Edited August 22, 2021 by Monostripezebra

[SYN_Vander]

32 minutes ago, Monostripezebra said:

 

That airfield is U54 Bernard Airstrip from the forrestry service.. there are ton of great bush strips modeled in MSFS for the idaho area, especially along the Big Creek. One of the famous ones, Dewey Moore, however is missing..  but it can be found by flying west from 198D Vines Airstrip.

 

Be warned, though.. it is not really compatible with big aircraft.

 

 

Thnx! Don't worry, I don't fly big aircraft  

[DD_Arthur]

8 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

I have just realized that GA flying is not for me!

 

I don't blame you; it's dangerous!

Round here little planes fall out of the sky regularly.  This is Dunkeswell on Friday. 

 

Luckily the Cessna pilot sustained only 'minor' injuries. 

[DD_fruitbat]

31 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

I don't blame you; it's dangerous!

Round here little planes fall out of the sky regularly.  This is Dunkeswell on Friday. 

 

Luckily the Cessna pilot sustained only 'minor' injuries. 

 

looks like they were trying to mate!

[Hoots]

7 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

looks like they were trying to mate!

Damnit! Came here to say that.

[Monostripezebra]

On 8/22/2021 at 11:23 PM, DD_fruitbat said:

 

looks like they were trying to mate!

 

And people say my IL2 flying was unrealistic..

On 8/22/2021 at 9:43 PM, SYN_Vander said:

 

Thnx! Don't worry, I don't fly big aircraft  

 

It can be very fun though.. Big Creek (U60) has gotten a nice, but unrealistic, paved surface capable of 747 and Airbus ops and has a really fun approach..

 

 

for small planes, I really love the challenge to fly the Caudron into all those mini-bushstrips along the big creek.. the area is modeled great and the poor altitude performance of the plane make for a real neat flying challenge.

 

EDIT: there are actually some pretty cool overworks for the bush airfields available.. check there if it is to your liking:

https://www.bushleaguelegends.com/addons/msfs/msfs-scenery/msfs-scenery-usa

Edited August 23, 2021 by Monostripezebra

[DBFlyguy]

Some new gamescom 2021 MSFS2020 teasers, the Reno Air Races and JU-52 look pretty interesting!

 

 

 

 

[unlikely_spider]

Bleriot air races on tap, hopefully

[Trooper117]

If I can drop German paratroopers on Crete with the Tante Ju I'll buy it... and it would have to have a period cockpit as well, non of this gps glass cockpit palava.

Non of the other sneak peeks get me either...

[DBFlyguy]

10 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

If I can drop German paratroopers on Crete with the Tante Ju I'll buy it... and it would have to have a period cockpit as well, non of this gps glass cockpit palava.

Non of the other sneak peeks get me either...

The Reno tease had me at MUSTANGS ? The L-39s and T-6s are icing on the cake, I'll definitely be getting that one.  I hear ya about the JU-52 though.  I enjoy it in Great Battles but will most likely pass on getting it for MS2020.  The Volocopter air taxi thing.... meh.. Hard pass on that one too.

[AndyJWest]

The Ju-52 looks very tempting, though I'd have preferred one with a 1930's cockpit.

[Hoss]

Just saw this on Stormbirds, I've never wanted anything to do with MSFS before this, but I'd be very tempted to try it.  I said tempted...

 

 

Cheers

Hoss

[Gambit21]

Nice

I went finally in 2019 for the 3 days - glad I did. What a great time.

I got to climb into the cockpit of a flying Zero.

 

I also got to talk with some mechanics and pilots about the Allison. Oddly they said it’s a tough engine - weird eh? What noobs!!!

 

 

 

[352nd_Tazman]

I'll be the Guinea Pig and let you know how it goes Hoss!

 

I used to have such a blast racing in FS 2004 with PROPS Racing with West Coast ATC!

 

I hope they have a good time keeping solution and proper multiplayer!

 

Cheers!

Tazman

[Gambit21]

lol @Dakpilot I wrote that just for you. 

[ZachariasX]

Maybe we should have a topic discussing the differences of a tough racing engine vs. a tough lawn mower engine.

 

I am sure that the MSFS Reno racers will have very, very tough engines. As long as you press „I“ for injection when the time for that comes.

[Monostripezebra]

On 8/24/2021 at 8:16 PM, AndyJWest said:

The Ju-52 looks very tempting, though I'd have preferred one with a 1930's cockpit.

 

true.. but considering it is going to be relatively economic ($15 or so) asobo addon, I am not really holding my breath.. (but probably still be buying.. just because). I feel like flightmodel-fun wise, the Il2 Ju 52 is still top of the pops, probably..

 

 

7 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

Maybe we should have a topic discussing the differences of a tough racing engine vs. a tough lawn mower engine.

 

I am sure that the MSFS Reno racers will have very, very tough engines. As long as you press „I“ for injection when the time for that comes.

 

I am not sure, airracing in MSFS will be as fun.. "digital" airracing games always have the issue, that due to the extreme high numbers of repetitions and participants you´ll get kind of a stuck "endphase" where it gets very tedious to shave more split seconds and to advance.. while the consequencelessness sorta rewards high risk strategies. So at some point, if you wanna be good, you gotta do 100ths of crashes for the 100th second faster. I played so many airrace games, and while some where so real fun, it is mostly event type races or challenging courses etc that make the thing fun. A virtual Reno with unlimited roundtrips and no collision physics has me sceptical, in regard to the long term fun.

 

I kind of prefer silly stuff, like jetborne racing, they really do it right, as a fair and good casual racing game with a very skill based approach. And Guns, if you want them to, to mix things up.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by Monostripezebra

[DD_Arthur]

8 hours ago, Monostripezebra said:

 

 

 

Magnificent!

 

This sort of thing over on the MSFS forums is associated with devil-worshipping and XBox owning

[Lusekofte]

9 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Magnificent!

 

This sort of thing over on the MSFS forums is associated with devil-worshipping and XBox owning

I don't mind doing it. But being able to do it tell a story about physics and FM.

We are not real pilots after all ?

[DD_Arthur]

4 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

But being able to do it tell a story about physics and FM.

 

I’m not sure it does. How many times have we seen people scream ‘arcade’ because they can perform things that no sane pilot would attempt?

 

The penalty for a real pilot is death.

The penalty for a virtual pilot is ‘refly’.

[ZachariasX]

16 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

The penalty for a virtual pilot is ‘refly’.

If "refly" takes 5 min loading time, it is worse than death.

[Gambit21]

On 8/25/2021 at 11:33 PM, ZachariasX said:

Maybe we should have a topic discussing the differences of a tough racing engine vs. a tough lawn mower engine.

 

I am sure that the MSFS Reno racers will have very, very tough engines. As long as you press „I“ for injection when the time for that comes.

 

Or...maybe the context of the conversations went beyond 'racing' engines...and there are different classes of 'racers' FYI.

[CUJO_1970]

Agreed about Ju-52 - would love to see a version without modern gadgetry…there were a lot of steps involved in working those old radials as well. Eric Brown’s description of the startup procedure was pretty epic, lol.

[Lusekofte]

9 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

I’m not sure it does. How many times have we seen people scream ‘arcade’ because they can perform things that no sane pilot would attempt?

 

The penalty for a real pilot is death.

The penalty for a virtual pilot is ‘refly’.

First of all . Would engines run? Fuelflow?

Csn it fly up side down at all.

I think. It would go into some sort of stall just trying to roll it over. I am pretty sure it is not doable.

But to me it is not important. I am fed up looking for that fakking community folder and delete modules I bought and reinstall them. I simply has been frustrated away from this sim. I am close to uninstall

[Monostripezebra]

On 8/27/2021 at 8:10 AM, LuseKofte said:

I don't mind doing it. But being able to do it tell a story about physics and FM.

We are not real pilots after all ?

 

I think regardless of real piloting or not, what good is a detailed sim, if you don´t test limits and things better not done IRL? I mean, whatfor would anyone want damage and flightmodel details, if all you ever did was non-crashing straight and level flying?

 

In MSFS just enjoy taking the stock airbus to those nice "forum famous" Airstrips I´ll probably never see IRL.. off course that is not realistic and not perfectly modeled at all by MSFS.. but hey, it is way more fun then landing on some 9000ft runway. 2NC0 Mountain Air Airstrip is super nice!

 

 

The one thing that makes me sad though, is WHY THE HELL do civilian flight sims never pre-plan civil "action" flying like firefighting, paradrops, etc and account a little for that? I mean, not having a Candair CL415 or 515 or so is kind of reallying missing out..

Edited August 28, 2021 by Monostripezebra

[Lusekofte]

5 hours ago, Monostripezebra said:

you don´t test limits and things better not done IRL?

I do not think I could do what you do. I do not think less of your stunts. Not in any of the sims. I have tried to replicate you many times. 

As I said it do not bother me. Because this sim is much more. I know there is no DM in this game. 

I have watched you land Big planes where I can't land a cessna

Edited August 28, 2021 by LuseKofte

[Monostripezebra]

8 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

I do not think I could do what you do.

I have watched you land Big planes where I can't land a cessna

Naa. Its all just trial and error... Pretty sure you could also do A320 bushflying. It takes a bit to get over the annoying autothrottle.. but with full spoilers and flaps out, it works really nice, as long as you do not get into the checkered speedtape area. Just hit reverse thrust at the "20" callout and pull up, the rest does the Airbus alone.

 

 

[Rhino-1938]

On 8/24/2021 at 4:28 PM, 352nd_Hoss said:

Just saw this on Stormbirds, I've never wanted anything to do with MSFS before this, but I'd be very tempted to try it.  I said tempted...

 

 

Cheers

Hoss

Living in Reno i will definitely have it 

[Hoss]

I've got some old school friends in Sparks, Lori goes to the race every year, told me to get my crusty butt up there and go some time.  I went to an airshow at Nellis some years ago and they had a mock air race, with about seven Mustangs, a Corsair, three Sea Fury's, the sound of that was just amazing...

 

Cheers

[busdriver]

On 8/28/2021 at 9:24 PM, Monostripezebra said:

Pretty sure you could also do A320 bushflying. It takes a bit to get over the annoying autothrottle.. but with full spoilers and flaps out, it works really nice, as long as you do not get into the checkered speedtape area.

 

IRL I always disconnected the autothrust for manual landings.

 

 

Regarding the speed tape on the PFD...you're describing either "Alpha Prot" (Alpha Protection...the yellow and black caterpillar) or the red Alpha Max indication.

 

 

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, 352nd_Hoss said:

I've got some old school friends in Sparks, Lori goes to the race every year, told me to get my crusty butt up there and go some time.  I went to an airshow at Nellis some years ago and they had a mock air race, with about seven Mustangs, a Corsair, three Sea Fury's, the sound of that was just amazing...

 

Cheers

 

Oddly, the most entertaining race was the slow Texans - it’s was actually a race start to finish.

 

The Mustangs and unlimiteds etc were fun, but the race was more or less sorted out in qualifying, with the races themselves basically single file progressions around the circuit.

Still fun to watch, but the Texans put on the best race.