career settings for smooth gameplay?

[Harlequin]

I've been flying a few career missions but am experiencing odd patches of slowdown.  I get 60fps pretty much constantly but often there are times where it just doesn't feel smooth and kind of stutters.   I've tried changing a few things but can't seem to get rid of these.  On medium density i checked the in game clock with a timer and found that it was running slow at points.

   My specs are:  i5 4460,  gtx1070, 8gb ram DDR3, ssd, 1080 monitor, track ir

I changed career settings to scattered, but still get these moments where things just dont feel smooth.  Is my cpu good enough to run the campaign on scattered or even medium?  Is a ram upgrade likely to help?

I'm going to work through the graphics options but not sure if any of these will affect CPU usage.  

Any help would be appreciated.

Edited August 19, 2019 by cosg_Paul
got cpu wrong

[Voidhunger]

1 minute ago, cosg_Paul said:

I've been flying a few career missions but am experiencing odd patches of slowdown.  I get 60fps pretty much constantly but often there are times where it just doesn't feel smooth and kind of stutters.   I've tried changing a few things but can't seem to get rid of these.  On medium density i checked the in game clock with a timer and found that it was running slow at points.

   My specs are:  i5 4400,  gtx1070, 8gb ram DDR3, ssd, 1080 monitor, track ir

I changed career settings to scattered, but still get these moments where things just dont feel smooth.  Is my cpu good enough to run the campaign on scattered or even medium?  Is a ram upgrade likely to help?

I'm going to work through the graphics options but not sure if any of these will affect CPU usage.  

Any help would be appreciated.

Its CPU, you have to buy best CPU on the market.

[Harlequin]

Hi.  Thanks for the response but that doesn't really make sense.  Why do i have to buy the best on the market?  I didn't think that the CPU was so bad that i need to replace it, but perhaps I am wrong.  Would certainly like to explore some settings changes though first.

[Voidhunger]

7 minutes ago, cosg_Paul said:

Hi.  Thanks for the response but that doesn't really make sense.  Why do i have to buy the best on the market?  I didn't think that the CPU was so bad that i need to replace it, but perhaps I am wrong.  Would certainly like to explore some settings changes though first.

I have better CPU and I cant play career mode with scattered activity. Im waiting update after update for some optimalization news.  sry you have to buy better CPU to play on scattered, maybe moderate.

 

Lowering settings doesnt help, enemy ai and fm model for the ai are very cpu hungry.

Edited August 19, 2019 by Voidhunger

[Harlequin]

Thats so weird.  I just noticed from your specs that you have the 4670K.  I think that uses the same 1150 socket as mine.  I had thought of upgrading to the top end 1150 chip the 4790k to save money by not changing motherboard etc.  I wonder if it would be worth it?   Any suggestions on what it takes to actually play the game in career mode cpu wise?

[Voidhunger]

30 minutes ago, cosg_Paul said:

Thats so weird.  I just noticed from your specs that you have the 4670K.  I think that uses the same 1150 socket as mine.  I had thought of upgrading to the top end 1150 chip the 4790k to save money by not changing motherboard etc.  I wonder if it would be worth it?   Any suggestions on what it takes to actually play the game in career mode cpu wise?

I dont know, but i remember someone saying  that i7-6800K was not enough for dense activity.

[Sybreed]

I have a i7-6800k and I'm going from 110 to 50-60 FPS in the Kuban map near the south port when there's a lot of activity. Upgrading ram and installing IL-2 on a SSD didn't help, so maybe the CPU is really the choke point.

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

EDIT: i just notcied this was for career my bad.

Well thats Odd i get better Perf on the FX8350 @ 4.4ghz and a GTX1060 @ Ultra Preset @ 1440P
going by the internet every Intel built should be better..
How many GB is that GTX1070? (game needs Min 6GB Vram on Ultra @ 2K +) or will start to stutter when caching to system Ram. 


Tho i am on Win 7 (sp1) .
If you are not using VR Maybe try dual install and test that.
I have side by side install and Win 7 & Win10.10 And its upto 25% faster for IL2 in places.
(Also no issues with auto updates, last for win7 was 2010) 

But thats to be expected, its like comparing Windows XP and Windows 8.1 (10 = 8.1 failure) 
Win 10 only needed for VR or DX12 based Games. 

EG of Load at ULTRA 2K Preset 
7132MB is system Ram. 

A few proper tips other than using win 7.
- Make sure your pc is running maximum power profile in power Options.
- Make sure you setup Nvidia Control panel Profile for Il2.exe specifically - Global Profile is No Good for Perf.
- Make sure you dont have many programs running in background. (maybe a fresh restart before gaming).

 

Edited August 20, 2019 by =TBAS=Sschatten14

[Voidhunger]

8 hours ago, Sybreed said:

I have a i7-6800k and I'm going from 110 to 50-60 FPS in the Kuban map near the south port when there's a lot of activity. Upgrading ram and installing IL-2 on a SSD didn't help, so maybe the CPU is really the choke point.

Sadly its not about FPS. I have constant 60 FPS and carrer mode is very slow on scattered density. Its unplayable. Unfortunately i dont have enough money to replace mb,cpu and ram.

[Harlequin]

I'm using win 7 at the moment.  I think my gtx 1070 is 8gb ram.  I'm only running at 1080p so should be more than enough.  I made some changes last night by disabling vsync in game and on nvidia settings, but set target frame rate to match my screen (60fps). This meant i didn't get any screen tearing.  I set options to high and kept things fairly basic.   I then tried the scattered density campaign again and still getting weird slowdowns and judders.  Framerate is constant 60fps though.   It's starting to look like nothing much in the settings can actually help and that the cpu requirement for campaign is very demanding.  I wonder if there are plans to utilise more than 4 cores as things go forward.  I mean with all the demands of ai, physics etc it might be the future.    

When I get a chance I'm going to try hosting PWCG on a laptop and connecting to it via local network and running a campaign there.  Maybe splitting the load between 2 computers might help?  The downside I think though is that Dserver only runs on 1 core.

 

Have been looking at some of the ryzen 5 chips, 2500, 2600 etc.   They are a cheap option but might be good for a cheap upgrade?

[Voidhunger]

40 minutes ago, cosg_Paul said:

I'm using win 7 at the moment.  I think my gtx 1070 is 8gb ram.  I'm only running at 1080p so should be more than enough.  I made some changes last night by disabling vsync in game and on nvidia settings, but set target frame rate to match my screen (60fps). This meant i didn't get any screen tearing.  I set options to high and kept things fairly basic.   I then tried the scattered density campaign again and still getting weird slowdowns and judders.  Framerate is constant 60fps though.   It's starting to look like nothing much in the settings can actually help and that the cpu requirement for campaign is very demanding.  I wonder if there are plans to utilise more than 4 cores as things go forward.  I mean with all the demands of ai, physics etc it might be the future.    

When I get a chance I'm going to try hosting PWCG on a laptop and connecting to it via local network and running a campaign there.  Maybe splitting the load between 2 computers might help?  The downside I think though is that Dserver only runs on 1 core.

 

Have been looking at some of the ryzen 5 chips, 2500, 2600 etc.   They are a cheap option but might be good for a cheap upgrade?

If i remember correctly jason said, that they have one or two tricks in the sleve they can try, but there is no resources and time for that now. Maybe reworked ai can help a little.

I can play nicely in qmb with 16 planes but not in career. Ground units with aaa also eat cpu resources.

Edited August 20, 2019 by Voidhunger

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

turning off Vsync and Turning on Frame rate limit to 60fps will not prevent Tearing.
It will just reduce input lag.

Look into Fast sync.. 

No point using more than 4 cores as most cpus are only 4.
New 8 core amd and 8 core intels are only 4 cores with 8 threads. 
you cannot run it like its 8 cores. 
 

[Dakpilot]

11 hours ago, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

turning off Vsync and Turning on Frame rate limit to 60fps will not prevent Tearing.
It will just reduce input lag.

Look into Fast sync.. 

No point using more than 4 cores as most cpus are only 4.
New 8 core amd and 8 core intels are only 4 cores with 8 threads. 
you cannot run it like its 8 cores. 
 

 

9700k are not 8 core? 

 

Where do you get this info? 

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Dakpilot said:

9700k are not 8 core? 

 

Where do you get this info? 

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

 

He definitely didn't get his info from Intel's own spec sheet: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/186604/intel-core-i7-9700k-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

[Dakpilot]

Yep, I can't even be bothered to post an actual pic of the core architecture showing the 8 cores (also for the 9900K) which are 8 cores 16 threads, but they are freely available on the net.

And just in case.. The 9600k is six core six thread. 

Seeing as IL-2 favours 1 or two threads it is possible to Overclock just those cores to 5. 3ghz and save on overall potential heat with two at a more Conservative 5.0ghz and the rest stock boost. 

 

PURELY for IL-2 and VR, currently and for the near future Intel is the preferred choice for best performance even stock intel will outperform AMD which is a shame, but the competition is healthy 

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

Yeah i never mentioned the word 9700K nor did anyone else in entire thread...
Either way i was not talking about the New cpu's and cpu's that many people dont have. or cant afford :D 
and the first like many of the previous stuff is 4 cores 8 threads. 

and LOL about AMD 

[Harlequin]

If anyone could reccomend a processor thats good value for money and is suitable for the game i'd be grateful.  I was looking at the single thread performance chart and its interesting.  https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

4790k doesn't seem too bad, has OC potential too.

[Dakpilot]

3 hours ago, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

Yeah i never mentioned the word 9700K nor did anyone else in entire thread...
Either way i was not talking about the New cpu's and cpu's that many people dont have. or cant afford ?
and the first like many of the previous stuff is 4 cores 8 threads. 

and LOL about AMD 

 

22 hours ago, =TBAS=Sschatten14 said:

No point using more than 4 cores as most cpus are only 4.
New 8 core amd and 8 core intels are only 4 cores with 8 threads. 
you cannot run it like its 8 cores. 
 

 

New 8 core intels are 9700k and 9900K which not 4 cores with 8 threads... 

 

Just admit it was mistake to say this misleading info 

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

@Dakpilot
Wow some people, WT you on about..
Most people who play IL2 dont have those cpu's thats why i never mentioned any "BRAND new" cpu that has 8 cores 8 threads. 
Also i never even said a model number at all until you did. (all i said was "Like the previous stuff" - maybe you need to try another way of reading it.) 

I said "new" as in what most gamers can afford. Intel or amd built between 2012-2016/17.
(look what the Op has, does he have $2500 monitor, does he mention a $1000 SSD,) 

Not a Brand spanking New cpus that not even most of the IL2 community can afford.
in some countries $800 for cpu alone like 9700K thats same price as VR Kit. (or the entire pc thats $3000) 

Considering you did not contribute anything and only came in proceeded to misread a post foolishly take it out of context then Make a mistake and then proceed to be abusive and troll the entire thread instead of admitting your mistake..
Name passed along.
Anyways Ignoring the Trolls.
-__--__-


As for the OP @cosg_Paul Like i said in order to get good/max performance from IL2 there are a few things All Players MUST Do,
(They are not really optional For Nvidia cards atleast) 

1 - You Must Make sure your pc is running "Maximum power profile" in power Options.
(Often called High Performance - best to turn off any power saving its not a laptop) 
2 - You Must setup Nvidia Control panel Profile for Il2.exe specifically -
(Global Profile is No Good for Performance and certain settings used in global can reduce gpu lifespan)
3 - You Must Set Nvidia Profile for IL2.Exe To Use "Prefer Maximum Performance" Power Profile.

(I Also Recommend the following options in IL2 Profile - Generic Pic.) 
(Limiting Frames to 1 might help.) 

Spoiler

Try not to use framerate limiters and many of these introduced input lag.
you have a better cpu than me and better gpu so should be able to get 60fps @ 1440P dont need 9700K for 1080P Gaming in Il2
 

Edited August 22, 2019 by =TBAS=Sschatten14

[Harlequin]

Hi

 

Thanks for the advice.  I will try out your suggestions later and report back.  You mentioned that your cpu is not as fast as the 4460 i have.  How do you get on in the career?  Even on scattered density there are slow downs for me.  I wonder if some of the new ai changes have caused some issues with optimization?  Anyways, will try your settings tonight.

thanks

[Jaegermeister]

I just upgraded from an i5 @ 3.5 ghz to an i7 3770k oc’ed to 4.10 ghz. My specs are listed below. I am on a 2012 mb so I can’t upgrade any further without changing everything. I went from 100% cpu usage in vr and not really utilizing GPU at all to 70% CPU and 50% GPU usage under heavy load. I was running a steady 44 FPS which is now at 96 FPS and drops to about 50 under heavy load. In certain missions, I was getting severe tearing and slowdown which is now gone. I also upgraded from 16gb of DDR3 1600mhz ram at 9-9-9-24 to 32 gb and that had no effect at all. It is running a steady 30% usage with no fluctuations.

 

it is not ideal, but it was roughly a $400 upgrade which took me from can’t play mode to not too bad and I’m happy with it for now mode. 

 

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