ShamrockOneFive Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 One of the questions I get asked consistently and sometimes frequently is around choosing flight sim hardware that works well with IL-2 (or DCS or insert your favourite sim here). While a couple of my recent reviews have focused on higher end pieces, my latest hardware review is focused on Thrustmaster's T.16000M FCS flight package - a three piece kit that includes stick, throttle and pedals. There's pros and cons to any setup but there's a lot to like here and its well suited to working with a sim like IL-2. If you're interested in this package I've got the full review posted on Stormbirds and I'm always happy to answer any questions about the setup. https://stormbirds.blog/2019/08/13/thrustmaster-t-16000m-fcs-flight-pack-review/ 1 2
Sokol1 Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) Quote Hall Effect sensors (called H.E.A.R.T HallEffect AccuRate Technology by Thrustmaster) with 16-bit precision Better say: "Hall Effect sensors (called H.E.A.R.T Hall Effect AccuRate Technology by Thrustmaster) with 16-bit precision, in X, Y axes and conventional potentiometer with 8-bit precision is twist rudder and throttle axes." Potentiometer of T.16000M twist rudder causing spikes is a common complain. Edited August 17, 2019 by Sokol1
ShadowStalker887 Posted August 17, 2019 Posted August 17, 2019 Would you recommend this over a Logitech X56? I'm trying to decide between the T.16000 and the Logi X56, and I'm concerned about the apparent quality issues surrounding the X56. Trading out some extra functionality for a set of pedals and better build quality sounds like it might be worth it.
356thFS_Melonfish Posted August 17, 2019 Posted August 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, ShadowStalker887 said: Would you recommend this over a Logitech X56? I'm trying to decide between the T.16000 and the Logi X56, and I'm concerned about the apparent quality issues surrounding the X56. Trading out some extra functionality for a set of pedals and better build quality sounds like it might be worth it. I had the X 52 pro, it was rather busted when i dug it out of the cupboard but i did fly with it an awful lot, it was ok, bit clunky. i much prefer my t.10000m, it's a far better stick imo, i like the snappyness of it and the strength of the spring, maybe not the best for ww2 sims in that regard but it's still fun. the throttle is sticky, there's no getting around that unless you go online and grab Nyogel 767A and redo the greasing on the rails which i'm told makes it much, much better. i'm still working myself up for this having bought the gel. the rudder pedals, will do for now. i'll upgrade at some point, they suffer from a weak spring and the same rail issues as the throttle, again nyogel is said to improve this along with either another spring or in some cases a stack of elastic bands added to the current spring (i did this and it does help a bit) otherwise for the price you pay, honestly the set is not bad at all, i have seen compatability and config issues with the X56. i've had utterly none of this with the t.16000m FCS pack in either Box or CloD Pete
THERION Posted August 17, 2019 Posted August 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, ShadowStalker887 said: Would you recommend this over a Logitech X56? I'm trying to decide between the T.16000 and the Logi X56, and I'm concerned about the apparent quality issues surrounding the X56. Trading out some extra functionality for a set of pedals and better build quality sounds like it might be worth it. Hi, there is a lot of talk about quality issues with Saitek products. Now, I used to be a Thrustmaster enthusiast from the beginning (FCS, WCS, RCS of the 90's) and I programmed a lot of macros for those devices (in DOS, so not very comfy!). Finally, as it became more and more difficult to run these devices under Windows, I changed all my devices and chose Saitek, starting with the Throttle Quadrant, the Saitek Rudder Pedals, Saitek Trim Wheel and finally with the Saitek Rhino Combo (X55 - newer version is X56 now). Well, I have to say, until now I never ever had any trouble with these devices. They offer a lot of possibilities and with the Saitek Profile Software you get even more and complex configuration possibilities, not necessary needed for BOX, but if you own DCS modules then this will help you very much. Cheerio
YAKOTH Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 Hello, I'm super new here, basically a private from the trenches just joining the Air Force, and I got the Thrustmaster T16000 Flight Pack, but I don't know how to set it up. Right now the game does not uses the pedals nor the throttle, but there are a lot of commands I don't even know where they are. And trying to set them up on the settings keys there are a lot of things and don't know what to set where or how. Can you please post a key reference guide or how to you have your settings so I can set mine. Also if you know of a place I can get a tutorial on basic flying I would greatly appreciate it, because right now if I survive a landing and the plane is not completely destroyed I take it as a victory. Thank you.
PadleWarrior Posted December 24, 2020 Posted December 24, 2020 T.16000M FCS Hotas (Joystick + Throttle) T.A.R.G.E.T. Profile - T.16000M - IL2 Battle of Stalingrad? Many of the Hotas' buttons do not work in Il2 BOS using the T.A.R.G.E.T. profile/mapping provided on thrustmaster.com. I play the game through STEAM and have disabled STEAM Controller Input (Steam Library, Game Properties) Should I enable it in Steam? How to get the Profile working with the T.A.R.G.E.T. GUI or any other profile/mapping available for download? Also, keyboard controls are not handy like using RALT-E RCTRL-= etc.
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