French language for Normandie Niemen

[namhee2]

Hello everybody
I think for the "Normandy Niemen heroes", they need like the French language.
I think there are enough Frenchmen here in forum who would like to do this as a volunteer.
I would be very happy if it will agree.

 

Edited May 13, 2019 by namhee2

[6FG_Moonbeam]

Hi namhee2,

 

As a french guy, I  say that It would be very cool to hear some french voices !

 

And if I can led my voice I would be happy :)

 

By seeing you post, if a french voice is implemented, they will have to creat a Normandie Niemen skin, and more than this... They will have to "link" the french voice to the plane skin. And currently there are two langages in game : Russian and German

 

What do you think about this ?

[namhee2]

Alors ce soir, je vais construire une mission avec les voix du jeu original IL2 1946

Well then, tonight, I will build a mission with the voices of original IL2 1946 game

 

 

Edited June 7, 2019 by namhee2

[MarcoPegase44]

Hello,

Here is my speech file for Normandie Niemen from my old IL FB 46.

I do not know who is the author of this mod.

He is quite faithful from the video reports on Normandie Niemen that I own

The radio call sign of Normandie squadron was "Rayak"

 

http://www.mediafire.com/file/8xruw4f8rl87a5w/FrNormandie_Niemen_Il2_FB46.7z/file

 

 

[namhee2]

Thanks, I have also, I'm just about to convert the ones I need to MP3. Then you can insert with the "Translator media" in the mission. I'm still thinking about which "Command and trigger" how to work best.

[namhee2]

already done a few tests, have now understood the principle how to combine everything together. I will also try Italian, Croatian, Polish and whatever comes to my mind. I still need some time.?

[Wulfkai]

Anything new on these french voices?

[BinakZaino]

14 hours ago, Wulfkai said:

Anything new on these french voices?

 

Probably not, but it would be nice. 

 

BTW, did they add female voices if playing the U-2?

[Enceladus828]

They also need French voices for Desert Wings - Tobruk. In particular, the Dewoitine D.520

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, BinakZaino said:

Probably not, but it would be nice. 

 

BTW, did they add female voices if playing the U-2?

 

Yes, no mods needed. 

Edited November 28, 2020 by LukeFF

[namhee2]

17 hours ago, Wulfkai said:

Anything new on these french voices?

When I was interested in it at the time, I was an absolute beginner as a mission editor ... at that time I had "1000" ideas about what you can do. Today I know how complex it is to write a mission. I haven't given up yet, but it's not that easy. In addition, I would have to retire for health reasons, and I had to deal with other problems. But now I've come to the point where I can and will revive old ideas.

 

[Wulfkai]

5 hours ago, namhee2 said:

When I was interested in it at the time, I was an absolute beginner as a mission editor ... at that time I had "1000" ideas about what you can do. Today I know how complex it is to write a mission. I haven't given up yet, but it's not that easy. In addition, I would have to retire for health reasons, and I had to deal with other problems. But now I've come to the point where I can and will revive old ideas.

 

Sounds good. Best of luck with health and life mon ami

[itsmecamille]

I wonder if perhaps instead of just having a French voice set as Normandie Niemen scripted campaign with voice over might do the trick? The NN is really iconic and I would think it would be a popular choice for a scripted campaign? I'd volunteer to help with some voice over as a native French speaker

[DN308]

Not only for NN, but also for the Normandy map, with the 342 (Free French) Squadron.

It would be really nice that devs ask us for some rushes

[[F.Circus]FrangibleCover]

Did NN or the Free French units actually use French for communications? Especially for the Free French I'd imagine it would be very bad for the sort of tight GCI control favoured by the Western Allies.

 

The ideal is perhaps that "Formation, engage at will" is a command in French and "Uragan, this is Rayak, taking off now" is a command in stilted French-tinted Russian.

[CaptainFlemme]

38 minutes ago, [F.Circus]FrangibleCover said:

Did NN or the Free French units actually use French for communications? Especially for the Free French I'd imagine it would be very bad for the sort of tight GCI control favoured by the Western Allies.

 

The ideal is perhaps that "Formation, engage at will" is a command in French and "Uragan, this is Rayak, taking off now" is a command in stilted French-tinted Russian.

Exactly ! In reality, Free French comms were in english in the RAF and russian in the VVS. French accent would be nice for variety sake, as well as polish, norvegian, czech,... accents, but for historical accuracy comms have to be in russian or english. 

[DN308]

Sure , but especially during bombing run performed by free French crews only, there were some French comms coming sometimes. 

But you’re right, national accents would be a great addition to the game (as in CoD too).

[[F.Circus]FrangibleCover]

4 hours ago, CaptainFlemme said:

Exactly ! In reality, Free French comms were in english in the RAF and russian in the VVS. French accent would be nice for variety sake, as well as polish, norvegian, czech,... accents, but for historical accuracy comms have to be in russian or english. 

I mean, frankly the average RAF squadron should have twelve pilots and fifteen accents. The Commonwealth Air Training Plan assigned officers to units semi-randomly, so a squadron might have any number of people from the Dominions, the Empire, exiles, foreign adventurers and the bewildering range of British accents. Obviously, though, it's not really worth blowing the vast sums of money necessary to put all of this in a game, the upper class public schoolboy with a blocked nose is perfectly acceptable.

[Eisenfaustus]

Yet different voices and accents for me personal add a great deal of immersion. 
I still remember one of the German voices in IL2 46 speaking in a Frankish accent.

[PB0_Roll]

On 11/3/2021 at 2:01 PM, CaptainFlemme said:

Exactly ! In reality, Free French comms were in english in the RAF and russian in the VVS. French accent would be nice for variety sake, as well as polish, norvegian, czech,... accents, but for historical accuracy comms have to be in russian or english. 

Comms were in indeed (mostly) in english on the western front, there were more than a few free french able to speak reasonably english, and the brits disliked  very much the use of comms by anyone but squadron leaders/ground control anyway.

 

On the eastern front, they were mostly in french. Normandie Niemen had a few translators that would coordinate the general commands between area commander and NN squadrons leaders, but intra squadron comms and squadron/ground control were in french, and the russians were much more lax with intra squadron comms than the brits. This is well documented in Sauvage's "un du Normandie Niemen" as well as in La Poype's more recent book, IIRC.

 

Germans heard those french comms, and this led them to give order of killing any french pilot captured on the eastern front by firesquad....at least one of them is documented as victim of this order.

 

I'm one of the co-authors of 1946 french speechpack ("rayak" leader voice, restructure of lacklusting original "Il2 Forgotten Batlles" speech structure for french pack). There's no suitable map in IL2 great battles for NN so far, but if one is ever produced I'll be happy to help with a french speech pack, IL2 great battles's speech structure isn't exactly great either, but having french voices in a french NN campaign would still be a plus.

[CaptainFlemme]

2 hours ago, PB0_Roll said:

On the eastern front, they were mostly in french. Normandie Niemen had a few translators that would coordinate the general commands between area commander and NN squadrons leaders, but intra squadron comms and squadron/ground control were in french, and the russians were much more lax with intra squadron comms than the brits. This is well documented in Sauvage's "un du Normandie Niemen" as well as in La Poype's more recent book, IIRC.

I stand corrected  ! Many thanks for the little bit of history