Developer Diary 222 - Discussion

[NoMoreSteam]

On 4/30/2019 at 8:03 PM, Jason_Williams said:

The negativity of the "internet" and people in general never ceases to amaze us.

If you are fair with your customers you should not take the "negativity" seriously. You and your fantastic team are the creators of the top quality flight sim, I can't believe negative people would dominate the comments. I have seen many yt videos from IL2, I can't remember any with considerable amount of downvotes, let's forget majority.

Being too afraid of criticism means the negative people become your masters. That is not good for the sim... and for you.

[Jason_Williams]

1 hour ago, NoMoreSteam said:

If you are fair with your customers you should not take the "negativity" seriously. You and your fantastic team are the creators of the top quality flight sim, I can't believe negative people would dominate the comments. I have seen many yt videos from IL2, I can't remember any with considerable amount of downvotes, let's forget majority.

Being too afraid of criticism means the negative people become your masters. That is not good for the sim... and for you.

 

As I explained, this video is for marketing purposes. How many commercials on TV do you see with down-votes or comments underneath them? We want, for a change, the chance to tell OUR side of the story without people chiming in. We have this entire forum filled with critiques, complaints, suggestions, insults and name calling along side some praise. You have more than enough room to critique us. And I don't need to be criticized for pointing out the general negative nature of the internet. We take PLENTY of criticism and we have 10 years of listening to our customers and improving our products. That's a fact.

 

Jason

[danielprates]

I saw the video, and not only it is pretty cool to watch, but more importantly, it is indeed a very good depiction of what the actual game experience is. I can't understand why anybody here on this forum would have a beef with it.

[JonRedcorn]

1 hour ago, Jason_Williams said:

 

As I explained, this video is for marketing purposes. How many commercials on TV do you see with down-votes or comments underneath them? We want, for a change, the chance to tell OUR side of the story without people chiming in. We have this entire forum filled with critiques, complaints, suggestions, insults and name calling along side some praise. You have more than enough room to critique us. And I don't need to be criticized for pointing out the general negative nature of the internet. We take PLENTY of criticism and we have 10 years of listening to our customers and improving our products. That's a fact.

 

Jason

Keep your heads up guys you are doing an amazing job. Hate to see you guys frustrated by the negativity.

Edited May 1, 2019 by JonRedcorn

[Rjel]

I thought the video represents the series much better than did the original promo video back in  the very beginning. It gives a true vision of what this game is as it is today. Well done, IMO. 

Edited May 2, 2019 by Rjel

[Reinhardt]

These guys just keep delivering and laying down consistent updates, much better quality products than bigger studios. 

[Jason_Williams]

1 hour ago, danielprates said:

I saw the video, and not only it is pretty cool to watch, but more importantly, it is indeed a very good depiction of what the actual game experience is. I can't understand why anybody here on this forum would have a beef with it.

 

Yes, our future videos will be more in line with the realities of the product. I was never a huge fan or the CGI vids we made. Simply because they were too close to how the game actually looked, but better and edited in a way that was super duper cool. Such vids are typical for gaming in general, but the sim community is a different animal. I’m in the process of telling our story in more interesting ways with more info than ever before. Will take all summer, but it will be a better advertisement for what you get with our product these days which is a lot. I’m just way behind schedule on all this. 

 

And some users just have a beef with me and my push back. It’s fine. Just part of PC gaming culture. It’s the good people in this community who enjoy our product and wish us well that keeps us going. The support some dedicated members give us and the help we receive is incalculable and super appreciated by us.  

 

Jason

[Gambit21]

11 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

I wonder if rearm times could be variable or if they will be fixed.  

 

More important than that now certain...let's call them "interesting" individuals can come to grips with the fact that the developers know how to manage their time and resources

and provide high quality content at a blistering pace...and thus don't need those individuals whining endlessly about how they don't need to/shouldn't spend time on this

or that feature every time it's mentioned in a thread. Re-arm/Re-fuel is a great example. I'm tired of seeing this useful idea nonsensically shot down, and now that ends.

 

People like BSR who've been asking for it should have the option to use it.

 

 

 

 

 

[BraveSirRobin]

16 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

People like BSR who've been asking for it should have the option to use it.

 

 

I'm not usually on arcade servers, so I doubt that it will be available to me.

[NoMoreSteam]

4 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

We have this entire forum filled with critiques, complaints, suggestions, insults and name calling along side some praise.

Funny perhaps, but I see the proportions inversed.

Just read every 10 first comments after ANY DD discussion. Oh, not ten - a hundred... Straight negative posts are rare on this forum, 1%, 5%?

 

4 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

How many commercials on TV do you see with down-votes or comments underneath them?

I didn't realize you plan to advertise on TV. BTW, that is one of the reasons why people prefer the internet over TV. They can interact and share their opinions - like we now here.

 

You are always free to tell your side of the story. Critique can not change this. Making people see you are afraid of criticism causes they start to think there is something you are trying to hide. It corrupts confidence.  

What I see is an incredible input from the community. Players can supply literally everything, form blueprints, performance data, photos to skinning, modelling etc.

It is encouraging to see you treat them as partners or friends, not as annoying individuals distracting you from telling your story. 

Unfair, biased critics are at least ignored by the community.

And even the fiercest critic on this forum owns your product(s).

Personally, I feel better when I am reading praises, but I learn when I am reading critique.

Edited May 2, 2019 by NoMoreSteam
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[Jaegermeister]

21 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

 

No that was never the case. Fake news.

 

Jason

 

If you say so Donald, you would know better than me. Maybe it was some kind of graphics glitch with my computer. That’s how it used to run in one of the P47 missions I made not long ago. I tested it multiple times and it was consistent. 

 

Edit;

BTW, I’m not criticizing, I’m just mentioning something I observed.

Edited May 2, 2019 by Jaegermeister

[Jason_Williams]

2 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said:

 

If you say so Donald, you would know better than me. Maybe it was some kind of graphics glitch with my computer. That’s how it used to run in one of the P47 missions I made not long ago. I tested it multiple times and it was consistent. 

 

If it did it was a bug, it was never designed to do that and all my tests had them doing exactly what they were supposed to. 

 

Jason

[Cybermat47]

4 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said:

 

If you say so Donald, you would know better than me. Maybe it was some kind of graphics glitch with my computer. That’s how it used to run in one of the P47 missions I made not long ago. I tested it multiple times and it was consistent. 

 

I’ve had the Ju-52 since it was first released. One of the first things I did was drop paratroopers. And they always landed and took a knee.

 

Here’s a video I made when the Ju-52 first came out: 

 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2019 by Pb_Cybermat47

[unreasonable]

22 minutes ago, NoMoreSteam said:

......

Unfair, biased critics are at least ignored by the community.

And even the fiercest critic on this forum owns your product(s).

 

Perhaps, but in a setting outside the forum it will tend to be the noisy voice that makes the impression on someone seeing the material for the first time. You only need one person with some grudge, or fanatical devotion to some other product, to start bad-mouthing the game, in a setting where it is hard to police.  If other users try to counter that view, they are accused of being fanboys and the whole thing becomes a turn-off for any normal person.  I am entirely in agreement with Jason on this: you clearly are not, you have said your piece, (twice), just let it go.

 

BTW your last point is untrue - although one of the worst culprits was banned some time ago. Any nutcase can comment on YouTube.

 

Some people may think I am so far up Jason's bum that I can see  Finkeren's heels, but I have posted a variety of criticisms of the game, (as has Finkeren ). Provided that you keep it factual, make constructive suggestions, accept that you will not always get what you want and decline to indulge in personal attacks on the team's competence and honesty I have never seen any sign that critical contributions cause any problems.    

[Jaegermeister]

Well I feel like an idiot now. Maybe it was just my crappy old graphics card or VR goggles

 

[NoMoreSteam]

13 minutes ago, unreasonable said:

Provided that you keep it factual, make constructive suggestions, accept that you will not always get what you want and decline to indulge in personal attacks on the team's competence and honesty I have never seen any sign that critical contributions cause any problems.    

I agree - except the situations you were unable to see. And this is the very reason of my comments.

Anyway, I think we are too far from the topic now.

Edited May 2, 2019 by NoMoreSteam

[Mac_Messer]

10 hours ago, NoMoreSteam said:

If you are fair with your customers you should not take the "negativity" seriously. You and your fantastic team are the creators of the top quality flight sim, I can't believe negative people would dominate the comments. I have seen many yt videos from IL2, I can't remember any with considerable amount of downvotes, let's forget majority.

Being too afraid of criticism means the negative people become your masters. That is not good for the sim... and for you.

Not about criticism but negativity. It brings everything and everyone down and it is entirely understandable marketing materials should not have anything to do with it.

[US103_Baer]

The recent Flying Circus cockpits look to have made a big step forward, since the D7 and  Dolphin essentially. Any chance the earlier releases could get some of the same love?

[JonRedcorn]

44 minutes ago, US103_Baer said:

The recent Flying Circus cockpits look to have made a big step forward, since the D7 and  Dolphin essentially. Any chance the earlier releases could get some of the same love?

The time is probably hard to come by but seeing all the original planes brought up to the incredible standards the Dora has set would be incredible. 

[=621=Samikatz]

While they aren't as good as the later releases, the early WW1 cockpits are still pretty fantastic, I'd rather them focus their efforts on moving forward over spending forever touching up the already good

[Pollux]

Good news

[357th_Dog]

You know...I just like the fact that we have a modern WW2 flight sim that is in constant, active development.

Call me crazy..but..I'm just grateful for what we have, despite minor little things which will be worked on. 

[JG53KowalskiSVK]

 

"For Career mode, new squadron emblems..." What does it mean? Are you going to add squadron marking on the aircrafts?

[CIA_Yankee_]

On 4/30/2019 at 11:56 AM, JonRedcorn said:

You guys are truly the best devs ever. 

 

The best dev ever would have given us the pony first!

 

But seriously, aye, they're great... I especially love how sometimes they'll surprise us with cool stuff they've been working on in secrets which turn out to be game changers. All we think about mostly are "when are the new planes coming", but it's very satisfying when some major aspect of the simulation gets updated for the better, seemingly out of the blue. 

 

Great work, devs.

Edited May 2, 2019 by 71st_AH_Yankee_

[LukeFF]

34 minutes ago, JG53KowalskiSVK said:

"For Career mode, new squadron emblems..." What does it mean? Are you going to add squadron marking on the aircrafts?

 

No, it's referring to the many new squadrons being added to career mode.

[BubiHUN]

18 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

Yes, our future videos will be more in line with the realities of the product.

Is it possible to put more clickbait on these future videos? Because, when a person whos typing on youtube for example "il-2" these videos should be on the top of the results.

[JG53KowalskiSVK]

43 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

No, it's referring to the many new squadrons being added to career mode.

Thank you. And in the future? Is there a possibility to have squadron marking and numbers on the aircrafts? I haven't heard any info about that...Thanks

[migmadmarine]

They have said in past they would like to implement a system update for that, but it is a matter of when they can get to it. 

[Adler23FalkeAuge]

The devos consistently exceed my expectations.

As I've yet to take advantage of the thousands of options currently available - additions to the game are just more "icing on the cake".

That being said - I'm anxiously awaiting the next release (or two). The scale and detail of the Bodenplatte arena is absolutely astonishing!

Bravissimo!

[FlyingNutcase]

Best news: AI improvements

Close 2nd: RRR

 

Thanks Team, major steps forward for gameplay. [thumbs up]

Edited May 3, 2019 by FlyingNutcase

[BladeMeister]

" we have begun the long-awaited work on aircraft AI improvements "

Jason, if your team puts in the effort on creating a well rounded AI then The Great Battle Series will reap the reward in increased Single Player sales and product use. I know for me, right now, I am using TGBS very little because of the current AI situation. I LOVE everything the team has done with resurrecting TGBS and moving forward with a Fabulous looking and performing Sim, but the Ai is holding me back from jumping all in with TGBS Career. I understand it won't happen quickly and I hope people are patient with this, but I am very hopeful that the 1C team can improve the AI substantially. Good LUCK. Han, Please consider such characteristics as individual moral, more diverse skill levels, Squad moral, confidence in their plane vs. the enemy they are fighting, how bad is their plane damaged(run if badly damaged), squadron strength vs enemy squadron strength(run if badly outnumbered possibly), geographic position(over enemy territory or friendly territory) fuel status, vary possible defensive maneuvers(no more right hand circling only), altitude advantage or disadvantage to name a few. Jason, I really wish you would open another thread for POSITIVE ONLY AI upgrade considerations and suggestions to help the think tank with this project. There wouldn't need to be a lot of feedback, or even no feedback at all, but maybe Han and the team would receive some good ideas as to considerations that need to be used in calculating a good, interesting and FUN to fight AI. I would STRONGLY suggest looking at some of the better classic older sims with quality AI. Again GOOD LUCK, I await with baited breath! Now to read the rest of the DEV Diary.

Edit: Great Dev Diary! The Artistry involved in modeling EVERYTHING is incredible.  Now make it a worthy opponent for us Single Players! Please.

S!Blade<><

Edited May 4, 2019 by BladeMeister

[senseispcc]

Very fine news, at last the Tempest is in production pipeline  , thanks for this very good news, this is my favorite plane of WW2 planes... Maybe because my early (first)  war pilot book was Pierre  Closterman "the Big Show"  that some 50 years later I still read extracts with great pleasure.

I so thanks thanks the developers team even if they are restricted and only do reproduce a very limited part of the models of the allied aircraft's of this period. Thanks.  

[=621=Samikatz]

1 hour ago, senseispcc said:

Very fine news, at last the Tempest is in production pipeline  , thanks for this very good news, this is my favorite plane of WW2 planes... Maybe because my early (first)  war pilot book was Pierre  Closterman "the Big Show"  that some 50 years later I still read extracts with great pleasure.

I so thanks thanks the developers team even if they are restricted and only do reproduce a very limited part of the models of the allied aircraft's of this period. Thanks.  

 

The Tempest is absolutely beautiful and I'm really excited for it to come to the game. The enormous engine and intake mixed with the clean lines and bubble canopy are such a fantastic mix of brutality and elegance that no other aircraft comes close to

[AH_Col_Hogan]

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[E_Davjack]

It might not make sense to always do it on a public server, but Re-arm/Re-fuel will be really great for events like JG1 and J5 will be running for FC.  It can be part of the rules that pilots must RRR their airplane if it can be repaired.  I'm pretty excited for the potential new campaigns in FC!

[smink1701]

On 5/4/2019 at 4:37 AM, =621=Samikatz said:

 

The Tempest is absolutely beautiful and I'm really excited for it to come to the game. The enormous engine and intake mixed with the clean lines and bubble canopy are such a fantastic mix of brutality and elegance that no other aircraft comes close to

That’s exactly what I thought about the P47 until I flew it. Now I just use it for sightseeing. Very disappointing. 

[Jameswildwood]

2 hours ago, smink1701 said:

On 5/4/2019 at 10:37 AM, =621=Samikatz said:

 

The Tempest is absolutely beautiful and I'm really excited for it to come to the game. The enormous engine and intake mixed with the clean lines and bubble canopy are such a fantastic mix of brutality and elegance that no other aircraft comes close to

That’s exactly what I thought about the P47 until I flew it. Now I just use it for sightseeing. Very disappointing. 

 If what I've read over the years is true and the flight model is accurate the Tempest will make the P47 feel like a flying shed and the Mustang like riding a carthorse ! It was by far the best single engine allied fighter of the war. Really can't wait.

[BP_Lizard]

On 5/1/2019 at 4:09 PM, danielprates said:

I can't understand why anybody here on this forum would have a beef with it.

 

Someone will complain even if he's hung with new a rope.  I, also, think it was a great video. 

[smink1701]

7 hours ago, Jameswildwood said:

 If what I've read over the years is true and the flight model is accurate the Tempest will make the P47 feel like a flying shed and the Mustang like riding a carthorse ! It was by far the best single engine allied fighter of the war. Really can't wait.

The Tempest the best single engine allied fighter?  You need to lay off the bong!

[danielprates]

1 hour ago, BP_Lizard said:

 

Someone will complain even if he's hung with new a rope.  I, also, think it was a great video. 

 

The video is specially relevant, because it was entirely made with in-game images!