Combat Box by Red Flight

[ITAF_Rani]

Hi I would suggest an idea for a future campaign..

Why don t create 1941 Channel Map war scenario?

We have the map and almost all the planes..

 

An idea of planeset could be:

 

Me 109 F2 and F4

Me 110

He 111

Ju 88

Ju 52 

 

 

Hurricane

Spitfire MK V

A 20

Mosquito

DC3 

 

What about it?

 

Best

 

 

[354thFG_Leifr]

Presumably because a lot of folk dislike flying over the expanse of the Channel, which is a shame IMO.

[HazMatt]

It's a shame that the older planes seem to become hanger queens with all the late war planes. I think it would be fun to fly with an early war plane set.

[BMA_FlyingShark]

I'm all for some missions with early war birds.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[von_Tom]

What a fabulous A20 raid with escort.  Thankfully I and a pal had some altitude and dived in hitting many enemies and getting hit in return.  That was a truly manic and glorious 2 or 3 minutes.

 

No kills for me but lots damaged, and a successful landing.

 

Bravo!

 

von Tom

 

 

[AstrixAU]

Hey guys, used to be into IL-2 and want to come back and do multiplayer when I can, what are the peak times for this server, what ne umbers can I expect during those times. I'm in Australia and I am happy to have better pings then those in Russia but I'm not sure what the peak time for this server is. If I remember correctly this is a USA server so what US times are the peak and I can work out the local time here.

[R33GZ]

1 hour ago, AstrixAU said:

Hey guys, used to be into IL-2 and want to come back and do multiplayer when I can, what are the peak times for this server, what ne umbers can I expect during those times. I'm in Australia and I am happy to have better pings then those in Russia but I'm not sure what the peak time for this server is. If I remember correctly this is a USA server so what US times are the peak and I can work out the local time here.

I'm in NZ and the server is usually pretty well attended on Saturday amd Sunday mornings my time. Starts to wind down a bit towards midday

[ATAG_Ezzie]

Gday Astrix,

 

I'm an Aussie and in addition to what R33GZ said there's often a small number ish (10-20 ish) on after dinner time east coast Oz time, especially if the dynamic campaign is on.  Lower numbers are good if you are learning a new aircraft - like I am - and you can use different strategies compared to when the sim is busier.

 

Ping can be an issue where i am if everyone is streaming stuff but usually its playable.

 

Ezzie

[AstrixAU]

Thanks guys!

[R33GZ]

Is there any word on when we might return to western front?

[=BLW=Pablo]

How much longer are we going to have to put up with this horrible campaign in the south of England?

 

[Sketch]

Hello again Pablo,

 

I'll say the same thing I said in Discord, just incase you missed it. Also, we do not use the official forums for feedback or suggestions - but instead our Discord suggestions channel. Good luck, and happy flying!

 

Well, thanks for this info. You have been heard and we understand you feelings for more map rotations, and the planes you want. I do understand that the map does feel stale right now with both sides holding between the six airfields (the three Allied and three Axis fields). It has been mentioned before by other players. However, speaking of planes, we *intended* to not have the meta planes. 

If you're not satisfied, that's quite alright. We don't owe you or anyone else anything, but there are a few things you can do... Here are some suggestions:

• Post a suggestion for improvement in #suggestions 
• Continue to play on our server until the end of the campaign which should be around next Friday (unless there's a clear winner)
• Stop playing on our server until you're satisfied
• Create your own server with the request(s) you have. There are a number of resources out there to do so, including this video series on mission making

Thank you for understanding.

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

4 hours ago, =BLW=Pablo said:

How much longer are we going to have to put up with this horrible campaign in the south of England?

 

 

 

With all of respect and i love Combat Box since exist, this campaing or '' What if'' map is the worst of all maps in my 6 years on IL-2 GB Online.

I hope that this campaing ends soon.

 

Kind Regards.

 

Karaya

[Alonzo]

54 minutes ago, GOA_Bf109Pilot_VR said:

With all of respect and i love Combat Box since exist, this campaing or '' What if'' map is the worst of all maps in my 6 years on IL-2 GB Online.

I hope that this campaing ends soon.

 

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion. If you'd like to give us additional feedback, such as why you dislike it, that might be helpful. Combat Box has been 84/84 the last few evenings, so clearly some pilots like the campaign.

The campaign isn't finished, this is our first run of it, and we'll be making changes going forward. "I dislike that it's set in England" is fair enough, but then you're asking for Rhineland (has been done to death), the Normandy Coast (airfield placement makes campaigns difficult) or Kuban/Moscow/Stalingrad (Eastern Front, which some players don't like). For many pilots, being able to fly on a different part of the map has been wonderful.

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

5 hours ago, Alonzo said:

 

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion. If you'd like to give us additional feedback, such as why you dislike it, that might be helpful. Combat Box has been 84/84 the last few evenings, so clearly some pilots like the campaign.

The campaign isn't finished, this is our first run of it, and we'll be making changes going forward. "I dislike that it's set in England" is fair enough, but then you're asking for Rhineland (has been done to death), the Normandy Coast (airfield placement makes campaigns difficult) or Kuban/Moscow/Stalingrad (Eastern Front, which some players don't like). For many pilots, being able to fly on a different part of the map has been wonderful.

 

Hi Alonso

 

I'm agreed with your feedback, but my personal opinion ( which i know that is not important ), its the value of historical battles, plane set, etc.

84/84 many times means that those players dont have any option for other servers because multiplayer on IL-2 is almost dead ( al teast on america time we dont have any other server at the night than Combat Box) .

 

Again , thanks for your feedback and i wish that soon that '' What if'' map ends soon.

 

Regards.

 

Karaya.

Edited September 21, 2024 by GOA_Bf109Pilot_VR

[BBAS_Sn0opy]

Is the discord server still kept up? None of the links to the server on the website are working and all just lead to dead domains.

[Talon_]

3 hours ago, -370thFG-Coraxstania said:

Is the discord server still kept up? None of the links to the server on the website are working and all just lead to dead domains.

It's the most popular IL-2 Discord - moreso than the official one 😅

 

Here's a link just for you: https://discord.gg/bfDhcZZ5pR

[-250H-Ursus_]

On 9/20/2024 at 10:40 PM, GOA_Bf109Pilot_VR said:

 

Hi Alonso

 

I'm agreed with your feedback, but my personal opinion ( which i know that is not important ), its the value of historical battles, plane set, etc.

84/84 many times means that those players dont have any option for other servers because multiplayer on IL-2 is almost dead ( al teast on america time we dont have any other server at the night than Combat Box) .

 

Again , thanks for your feedback and i wish that soon that '' What if'' map ends soon.

 

Regards.

 

Karaya.

Based on what i experienced on Apollo Sealion:
Most people loved it, even in weekdays it was plenty of people, and the concept of removal of P-51 and 109 from the table was something which gave a sense of fresh air.

And to be fair, all dynamic campaigns derails from 100% historical accuracy in some point, beign the regular missions the most close things to historical accuracy.

To me, approaching with those comments to the admins is not appropiate, specially because it has nothing to do with something which is going wrong with the campaign, or something conscructive for make the campaign better.

Either way, the Sealion is over already.

I hope to see it again in the future, as i said, the Apollo Sealion between Western and Eastern Apollos is something great

Edited September 29, 2024 by -332FG-Ursus_

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

2 hours ago, -332FG-Ursus_ said:

Based on what i experienced on Apollo Sealion:
Most people loved it, even in weekdays it was plenty of people, and the concept of removal of P-51 and 109 from the table was something which gave a sense of fresh air.

And to be fair, all dynamic campaigns derails from 100% historical accuracy in some point, beign the regular missions the most close things to historical accuracy.

To me, approaching with those comments to the admins is not appropiate, specially because it has nothing to do with something which is going wrong with the campaign, or something conscructive for make the campaign better.

Either way, the Sealion is over already.

I hope to see it again in the future, as i said, the Apollo Sealion between Western and Eastern Apollos is something great

Greetings

You can proceed to report any comment that you consider hurts your thoughts, many times speaking things clearly even if they have a different point of view than others is the most direct way to improve or correct points. Obviously my comments are opposite to your points of view, however no one is being disrespectful enough for you to consider my comments inappropriate. 

While it is true that ''many'' players are happy to participate in a campaign that is fanciful and does not come close to the feeling of historical reality that a large majority of us like and that characterizes Combat Box and differentiates it from many other servers ,  There are others who would like to maintain that point of realism.

 

But as I repeat in my first comment, it is my personal opinion based on what I have seen (and I know that no one here cares about my opinion), in these 6 or more years that I have been actively participating in Combat Box.

 

By the way, the campaign is over and we are back to normal ( thank god ).

Regards.

[Alonzo]

Despite feedback from a handful players who dislike the ahistorical setting, Sealion was a big success with a full server and we're likely to run it again. We've already made improvements to the layout such as decreasing airfield density and we'll make other tweaks too. Personally it felt great being able to fly something other than Rhineland. The rolling hills of England are quite pretty and make for more interesting combat than the largely flat landscape of the Netherlands and Normandy.

 

For pilots who prefer historical campaigns, TAW is running right now and I would encourage you to join. It's an excellent server. The Combat Box team is working on our next campaign and hope to run it sometime after TAW concludes. https://tacticalairwar.com/

[LuftManu]

Campaign was fun even if I had little time to fly! If something is well crafted, we will always enjoy it. Of course, the CB team will always offer a well crafted scenario.

Thank you CB team!

 

Kind regards,

[BBAS_Sn0opy]

On 9/28/2024 at 1:17 AM, Talon_ said:

It's the most popular IL-2 Discord - moreso than the official one 😅

 

Here's a link just for you: https://discord.gg/bfDhcZZ5pR

Thank you!

[Haluter]

 

 

[=FI=Blue2]

Did not know him, but less than 40 years old is far too little time.  Sincere condolences to his family, friends and virtual squadmates.

[56RAF_phoenix56]

May I say how refreshing it is to fly in the Big Normandy Campaign.

A good big map, plenty of well spaced targets so it doesn't become Berloga-like.

My only question is, is the individualised radar working?

 

Bravo CB

[Otto_bann]

On 11/3/2024 at 6:55 PM, 56RAF_phoenix56 said:

... A good big map, plenty of well spaced targets so it doesn't become Berloga-like...

Alas and like usual, german pilots are still and too much cluttered by the Berloga spirit until this day (begin of 55).

The comparison of results german vs alliee sides is clear : for german side  + 78% kills and -32% of ground targets... (count of 3 first pages of stats, only for pilots flying at only 1 side).

Knowing a map and this so interesting campaign can be won  by ground destructions only, the border is running regularly and surely to East and it's deserved : german side will loose on this suicidal way.

Strategy seems not to be a main factor at german side...

Edited November 7, 2024 by Otto_bann

[150_GIAP-Red_Dragon]

 

The only British airfield has been closed (((

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

On 11/7/2024 at 9:54 AM, Otto_bann said:

Alas and like usual, german pilots are still and too much cluttered by the Berloga spirit until this day (begin of 55).

The comparison of results german vs alliee sides is clear : for german side  + 78% kills and -32% of ground targets... (count of 3 first pages of stats, only for pilots flying at only 1 side).

Knowing a map and this so interesting campaign can be won  by ground destructions only, the border is running regularly and surely to East and it's deserved : german side will loose on this suicidal way.

Strategy seems not to be a main factor at german side...

 

German side dont care about attacking ground targets, i'm playing this campaing for almost 1 week everyday, and the stats dont lie, for example , from 40 germans, only 3 or 4 connected are doing ground attack.

 

For them is like Berloga, full of '' Hartmans'' fliying at 7k, doing boom and zoom close to the allied bases.

Edited November 8, 2024 by GOA_SinVaselina_VR

[150_GIAP-Red_Dragon]

Pilots get more pleasure from downed planes, rather than from destroyed objects. And destroyed ground objects do not affect the pilots in any way. It does not reduce the amount of available fuel (for example, 60% refueling instead of 100%), does not reduce the availability of high-performance aircraft, does not reduce pilots' awareness of enemy targets in the air. 

So who cares about winning 🤣

[Otto_bann]

16 hours ago, Red_Dragon said:

... So who cares about winning 🤣

The campaign designers will appreciate this state of mind, which is indeed very representative of the most of German side :  "cast pearls before swine"

 

Bravo to most of Allies for not being afflicted by this way (the border is logically evolving in this direction).

Edited November 12, 2024 by Otto_bann

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

On 11/8/2024 at 9:19 PM, GOA_Karaya_VR said:

For them is like Berloga

 

On 11/8/2024 at 9:19 PM, GOA_Karaya_VR said:

For them is like Berloga, full of '' Hartmans'' fliying at 7k

Nah is more than berloga,they fly mostly low /mid😅 

[Black-Witch]

combatbox.net server seems to be down.

[Otto_bann]

3 hours ago, Black-Witch said:

combatbox.net server seems to be down.

Yes, this has been announced in the Cbox discord (back to regular missions soon).

 

Congratulations to the Allies on this well-deserved victory : a large proportion of them have understood how to win a campaign : destroy as much as possible on the ground. Nothing else is more effective.

Edited November 17, 2024 by Otto_bann

[2/JG26_natris]

On 11/12/2024 at 11:52 AM, Otto_bann said:

The campaign designers will appreciate this state of mind, which is indeed very representative of the most of German side :  "cast pearls before swine"

 

Bravo to most of Allies for not being afflicted by this way (the border is logically evolving in this direction).

I would say that aside from allies in general having more people who enjoy ground pounding, allied ground attackers are in general more popular/iconic, better bombers, and have higher chance surviving low level fight after dropping ordnance than axis counterparts (low and slow 190 configured for 3 250s, 410 being the garbage it historically was). I think this then reinforces the former (ground pounders gravitating to allied side).
With cost of death being zero as compared to TAW, flying fighters has minimal impact on the result. This is known, and is by design. I am not sure there is a good way to change this and still stay CB.
Thus many of the fighter pilots fly Apollo just because there is no other populated server with the same plane set available. And they do not really care about the campaign, same as hey do not care about the result of random missions on CB, because the only way how they can impact the result would be to get organized and do "boring" stuff 24/7. I do not think this is the case of pearls and swines at all. Wins on CB are "who has more people who enjoy ground pounding", leaderboards/stats are for fighter pilots. This is the reality of CB.
 

[Otto_bann]

Previous campaigns had been won by the Axe camp.  So it's not a question of better or weaker planes. It's a question of choosing what the majority of the guys do.

2 days before the end of this campaign, the Axis camp had destroyed 31% ground targets less (12045 vs. 15824 for the Allied camp), and lost 5 of its own airfields (-62%), while the Allies had kept all theirs (despite harassment on and around their bases : 100% inefficiency)...

If one side is weakened by its fleet of attackers, the best solution cannot be to do more hunting to win. The best solution is to attack more on the ground to compensate.

I'm a little sad to see such a beautiful campaign used by so many as a vulgar shooting gallery without any strategy (a vector that so enhances the interest of battles).

Edited November 17, 2024 by Otto_bann

[2/JG26_natris]

1 hour ago, Otto_bann said:

Previous campaigns had been won by the Axe camp.  So it's not a question of better or weaker planes. It's a question of choosing what the majority of the guys do.

2 days before the end of this campaign, the Axis camp had destroyed 31% ground targets less (12045 vs. 15824 for the Allied camp), and lost 5 of its own airfields (-62%), while the Allies had kept all theirs (despite harassment on and around their bases : 100% inefficiency)...

If one side is weakened by its fleet of attackers, the best solution cannot be to do more hunting to win. The best solution is to attack more on the ground to compensate.

I'm a little sad to see such a beautiful campaign used by so many as a vulgar shooting gallery without any strategy (a vector that so enhances the interest of battles).

About 30% of CB players care about ground attacking (and many of these just take a single bomb to drop when outnumbering oponents/on their first sortie). Look at random non apollo mission like https://combatbox.net/en/mission/22267/

CB admins openly admit that Apollo is designed to be decided by ground attackers. This is btw the same as with random missions. And it is thus logical that most of their player base does not care about their beautiful campaign's result. What they care about is if the experience is fun for them. Other than that, they are basically a background/obstacle to avoid/go through by the minority Apollo is targeted on

Asking for people who do not give damn about something to give damn about it is like fighting with windmills

[Otto_bann]

I'm not asking for anything: I'm observing and explaining with evidence why the blues got a slap in the ass in this last campaign (150kms lost of border at north, + 200 kms at south... just an humiliation).

IRL, Hartmann and hundreds of his German aces lost the war and the majority of battles. It seems that many Germans in this campaign have forgotten this point. Or perhaps they're looking to be the first among the losers (a kind of masochism)...?

I'm sure that many of those who limit their game to hunting are unaware of the interest (for them too) of strategy: they ignore or don't understand the main interest of this game and this kind of campaign.

I invite them (It's just a suggestion) to give it a try for the next campaign... and discover something other (and so more interesting) than a vulgar shooting range !

Edited November 18, 2024 by Otto_bann

[354thFG_Leifr]

Axis have won prior campaigns, but usually it boils down to which team is better at organising themselves in to attacking targets and assigning escorts/sweeps (in my opinion). Allies usually hold this advantage as there are multiple squads who are all familiar working with one another, and will happily share responsibility for both roles of bombing and escorting throughout the campaign.

 

I think, for the next Rheinland (or Normandy) Apollo campaign, 356th will roll Axis.

[150_GIAP-Red_Dragon]

11/12/2024 в 1:52 PM, Otto_bann сказал:

The campaign designers will appreciate this state of mind, which is indeed very representative of the most of German side :  "cast pearls before swine"

 

Bravo to most of Allies for not being afflicted by this way (the border is logically evolving in this direction).

I wouldn't blame the pilots that much. Of course, the behavior of pilots depends on the design of missions and campaigns. And in this sense, pilots fly as intended. I always fly with fighter planes. Why? I REALLY like mosquitoes. Much more then P 51 and Spit.  But.. my only flight on the company's mosquitoes ended in a fall, I didn't even have time to get rid of bombs and missiles, because you know, we already don't have a realistic navigator (lol or I should say we don't have any) and there is no one to look back sometimes If I have to carefully consider what's ahead, and what is much more important is the design of campaigns. He's great, thanks a lot to the team. I think it's just impossible to create something better for gr.attackers in IL 2. But there is one point. When I watch  the channel "Military Aviation History" about Mossie I hear that the mosquito was a bigger threat than the bombers because it had a very high speed and (attention!) The Germans could not predict the route of the Mosquito, which complicated their defense. You always know where to look for mosquitoes and other attackers, because there are only a few places on the map where you can wait for them. And this is always the most dangerous option, since you have to be over enemy territory. On the other hand, if I choose a fighter, I can choose where I fly . I can fly over my territory, fly even near my field, if I am not sure of my ability to fight the enemy. Therefore, abandoning ground attacks is just a reasonable choice for pilots who want to enjoy the flight and don't want to be kamikazes 😂In the case of single pilots or a small group

 

P.S. By the way, anticipating certain questions and advice, I will say that I asked for support in the general chat and in SRS, I found one kind pilot who agreed to cover me. But nevertheless, when I was shot down, no one helped me 🤣. And besides, I can't use the discord right now, so I have to fly alone.

Edited November 18, 2024 by Red_Dragon

[150_GIAP-Red_Dragon]

Although I would still like to ask a question. Isn't the radar detection and warning system for pilots about threats, including an attack by ground troops, a little, very little too effective? 😅And maybe a little bit very fast.. 😆 I mean, it seems like we get information almost instantly after the first bomb hits the ground..Forgive me, this is just my non-specialist question. And also, what is the altitude at which the radar cannot see the plane?

Edited November 18, 2024 by Red_Dragon