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migmadmarine
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Curious, what sorts of specialized squadrons (I'll define this as a squadron using an aircraft in a way that is different from or more specific than the other squadrons available for that aircraft) are there in career mode? I see there are dedicated anti-tank Hs-129 in Kuban, but are there any others? No squadrons flying Stukas in the AT configuration in the current areas, or have I overlooked them? I seem to recall something about a LaGG squadron in the Stalingrad career mode that flies with a different cannon than the others? And would I be right in assuming that two Soviet Navy bomber squadrons located at Alder in Kuban would specialize in anti-shipping if we had those missions available in career?

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15 minutes ago, thenorm said:

No squadrons flying Stukas in the AT configuration in the current areas, or have I overlooked them?

 

No, they fly only as standard dive-bombers. 

 

Other than that, I don't think there's anything specialized, per se.

migmadmarine
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That is a shame, would love to get to use that configuration in career. Take it there were no squadrons operating that way in the game areas then?

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No, as far as I know, the first deployment of the Ju 87 G was at Kursk.

ShamrockOneFive
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13 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

No, as far as I know, the first deployment of the Ju 87 G was at Kursk.

 

I had it in my head that some D versions were retrofitted with BK 37s before Kursk (and maybe even some at Stalingrad) but on trying to find that info I couldn't find it. So, not sure if that was just some facts jumbled in my head.

 

Apparently very few Ju87G models were available for Kursk but according to Wikipedia there were a number of modified D models with the cannons slung under the wings available.

 

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Only a handful of production Gs were committed in the Battle of Kursk. On the opening day of the offensive, Hans-Ulrich Rudel flew the only "official" Ju 87 G, although a significant number of Ju 87D variants were fitted with the 37 mm (1.46 in) cannon, and operated as unofficial Ju 87 Gs before the battle. In June 1943, the RLM ordered 20 Ju 87Gs as production variants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_87

 

We now actually have Kursk thanks to Tank Crew so that's of benefit. I'd still love to go tank busting in Career mode but that would be a-historical.

Eisenfaustus
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In Moscow and Stalingrad career the Schlachtgruppen utilize BF109Es as ground attacker instead of fighter (which is historicly correct of course)

 

That'd fill your definition of specialized aircraft.

migmadmarine
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Mmm, I was aware of those ones, and IIRC the BF-110 squadrons on Stalingrad and Moscow also focus more on ground attack as well. The 110 squadron in Kuban is listed as night fighters, but unfortunately there don't seem to be night fighter missions implimented yet. Can anyone confirm if those two squadrons at Alder were historically focused on anti-shipping?

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1 hour ago, thenorm said:

Mmm, I was aware of those ones, and IIRC the BF-110 squadrons on Stalingrad and Moscow also focus more on ground attack as well. The 110 squadron in Kuban is listed as night fighters, but unfortunately there don't seem to be night fighter missions implimented yet. Can anyone confirm if those two squadrons at Alder were historically focused on anti-shipping?

Try the scripted campaign Nightfighters over Kuban...

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/111-scripted-campaigns/

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migmadmarine
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Dragging this back out for another question. Started an A-20 career on Kuban. Are some bomber squadrons more likely to get night missions than others, or are they all random?

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It's all random. 

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Laggs are flying with different guns in the kuban career.

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46 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

Laggs are flying with different guns in the kuban career.

 

It depends on their mission assignment, just like enemy Bf 109s will sometimes appear with gunpods and sometimes not.

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Maybe Ju 87G will add to the career later. Because There is a mention of the V.Kdo f.P.B. ("1943.04.17" - "1943.06.07") in the skins configuration files.

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28 minutes ago, FoxbatRU said:

Maybe Ju 87G will add to the career later. Because There is a mention of the V.Kdo f.P.B. ("1943.04.17" - "1943.06.07") in the skins configuration files.

 

Interesting. @BlackSix, any more information about this? 

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migmadmarine
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I hope so, would be a nice weapon to get to use. Regarding the gunpods for 109s, I am most of the way through a 109 career on Kuban, and I've yet to see gunpods on friendly 109s, but in Russian Kuban careers I saw them all the time. Always found that odd. 

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8 hours ago, FoxbatRU said:

Maybe Ju 87G will add to the career later. Because There is a mention of the V.Kdo f.P.B. ("1943.04.17" - "1943.06.07") in the skins configuration files.

A Versuchsstaffel für Panzerbekämpfung (experimental anti-tank squadron) was active in the Kuban area and attached to Stg 2, but very few missions against tanks were flown. The unit was mostly used against boats and barges in the swamp area near Temryuk. Even the Hs-129 units in the Kuban area flew such missions. This could be an interesting mission type. Too bad that we don't have have any small vessels in the game for the Russian side.

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10 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Interesting. @BlackSix, any more information about this? 

It was done as AI unit but has not been added to the BOK career.

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3 hours ago, Juri_JS said:

A Versuchsstaffel für Panzerbekämpfung (experimental anti-tank squadron) was active in the Kuban area and attached to Stg 2, but very few missions against tanks were flown. The unit was mostly used against boats and barges in the swamp area near Temryuk. Even the Hs-129 units in the Kuban area flew such missions. This could be an interesting mission type. Too bad that we don't have have any small vessels in the game for the Russian side.

 

Interesting. I was always curious where this footage may have been taken.

 

Spoiler

 

 

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14 часов назад, BlackSix сказал:

It was done as AI unit but has not been added to the BOK career.

Is there a chance to meet Ju 87G as an enemy AI, if a player flies on Soviet Air Force fighters?

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