New to game. Need advice...

[Sublime]

I know this is largely opinion. Please hear me out. I cant afford Kuban or Bodenplatte YET or itd be LA5FN or a Bodenplatte plane or Kuban.

The IL2 BOM planes arent really my cup of tea but the map, and extra career mode is a big deal. Plus the P40 despite its sucky reputatiin intrigues me.

Question 1 - is the p40 still nerfed?

So since no Kuban no LA5FN or Id get that or a Yak1B.

So my question is this. I havent really tried ground attack.  Im sure Inwont be as good as it as a2a but the HS129 Ive never even seen modelled and intrigues me.

But more realistically Im torn between just (for now, financial issues) going for a FW190 A3 or LA5 regular.

Yes I know it depends what I like and how I play. I turn fight more but can BnZ. Ive gotten lazy using jets in DCS and so I like the easy mixture etc on German planes. But I want to hear peoples real opinions about the HS129, P40, Fw190A3, and LA5 PLEASE.. I know its oppinion in the end..

But i really want to hear what people think is the best choice, why, possible nerfs or limitations, and what theyre like now. Most posts I see are years old now!

Thanks!!

[MarderIV]

I'll comment on the one thing about the Fw 190A3 since you mentioned it - While it's certainly formidable in Stalingrad, the fact that it sits right on the frontline makes your missions extremely quick on the action. It's quite easy to fly and you just don't feel disadvantaged with it in most cases. I also have the La-5 and use it frequently, but it doesn't have the automation of the German planes. Getting the most out of the La-5 requires a bit of manual input with regards to engine, rad, and boost settings. 

 

Now the P-40; it's not specifically "nerfed". Devs don't "nerf" planes. They try to make sure everything is as accurate and to spec as possible. It just so happens that, with the current line of thinking these days, the P-40's engine modelling is a bit too austere. It's also has one of the most difficult, somewhat unforgiving engines in the game. It's not uncommon for folk to complain about blown engines when it comes to the P-40. I bought it and enjoy it, but it's a pretty acquired taste. It performs well enough in the Battle of Moscow considering you frequently encounter 109 F-2s and E-7s; but on the whole the P-40 comes across like a hobbyists' plane. I fly (and fight) in it often simply because it's charming and flies well; but I don't expect god-like performance. It flies like a teddy bear. It also fights like one.

 

The Hs-129 honestly, to me, is a bit of a trinket. A bauble. I have Kuban deluxe, I've played a couple rounds with it, but it's been a chore to do so. The engine is simply too underpowered (which is quite accurate to the real thing). Flying it feels like you have a serious disadvantage, despite the formidable loadout it has. 

 

So that's it for the most part. If you're adamant about getting a Collector's plane I really suggest the 190 A-3. You could do a lot more with it *comfortably* in the Career mode and you hardly ever feel like you're trading something off. Takes a bit of learning to get the best out of in a fight, but this plane will carry you to the end with nary a problem.  

 

Plus that engine sound. Who doesn't love radials? ?

[Field-Ops]

The Fw190 family will remain my favorite for the foreseeable future. Ever since I first flew it in sims I couldnt get enough of them so my bias towards them will show. The automation, the excellent handling at speed, its armament and jabo options all lead it to be one of the best well rounders the Germans came up with during the war. The 190 A3 in IL-2 GB is pretty much what I was looking for out of other sims. Its actually the most agile FW due to its center of gravity being more aft. It can dogfight in the beginning of the engagements but it really shines on the B&Z. All in all probably the best bang for your buck plane in terms of competitiveness and usefulness. 

 

As for the P40, when I fly allied this plane is what I prefer all the way into BoS timeframe. The engine has its quirks but can deliver unexpected power in short bursts. It has a dive speed that other russian planes cant match, .50 cal guns are great, and can turn quick at speed just like the FW 190. It also gets good bomb armament so in a sense I treat it like I treat my Fw190. Its great a B&Z you just have to be more cautions about your energy state as its not as easy to maintain as in the FW. Its also a good plane to get used to american rides in the first place as the engine management workload kinda follows through the entire product line of american fighters. It is however the only single engine plane that you have to manage your engine throttle as altitude changes. The P39 should have been this way too but the Devs opted to put a MP regulator in.

 

LA5 is like the russian FW-190, without the versatile bombloads or dive speed to back it up. I still enjoy it and it used to be my go to fighter, but now its my second to the P40. 

 

Hs129 is neat but its best used as a ground pounder, an underpowered one at that. I enjoy it for what it is and we probably wont see a more accurate representation of it anywhere else in a combat flight sim. I played with it for quire a while when it first came out but those ships always managed to shoot me down. 

[=FEW=fernando11]

I dont know what you own, but the game it's not called il2 for nothing... On SP Carrer, you can have a blast flying the il2 mod.1941 it has a wide variety of missions, decent agility and not the worst speed. You can even get some air kills along the way (even on multyplayer)

 

Of the collector planes, I think the fw190a3 it's my favourite by far, and a respectable plane even against  BoK planes, it depends a lot in the way you fly it, prety much like every plane on this new il2 GB 

[blitze]

A3 - lots of fun in Stalingrad.

 

La 5 again a tone of fun and quite capable when you learn it's ins and outs.  Not that complicated actually and holds itself well against 109's and 190's

 

P40 is quite capable actually in the Moscow timeline.  Main thing is to watch ones revs and manifold - 2 are correlating.  With combat flaps - it can turn with the 109s and the 6 x 50cals shred aircraft quite well.

 

H 129 - I stay away from it, I haven't bothered with learning how to fly it although some on here have had quite good experiences with it but you have to run it manual to get the most out of it.  Instead I stick to the 190, 110 or the Il2 for strike flying.  The P40 can be quite reasonable on the deck too but like the 109, keep its engine away from stray AA bullets - they choke and die easily from being hit.  If you are hit, immediately throttle back and get back over friendly territory.  Not like the Il2, 190 or the La 5 where you can still hang around a bit and make it back to base with a hit to the engine.

 

Weakness with the 190 in ground missions are its wings - if they get shot up, get out of there.

 

Think you can't really go wrong with the Stalingrad part of the series, it has some great planes and great scenery.  Quite alive when you see the torn up mess the city is and the continual bombardment going on there.  Piecemeal the other theaters as you can down the track.  Moscow is fun with the early 109's the Mig's, I16's not to mention 110E and Il2 41.

[Blackhawk_FR]

Hs129 is some kind of A10 (without all the wingload a A10 can have of course). Because it's main mission is to kill tanks with cannon. 

If you like tank killing with cannon, you will like it. Mk101 and Mk103 are effective (especially since last updates) and it's a single belly cannon, so quite easy aiming. 

As a fighter, tank killing is my second favorit task, so I already flew a lot the 129. And it's the one I prefer for this task. Stuka with 2xBK37 looks way more agressive but wings cannons make aiming harder (tanks are such small targets). + BK37 looks less effective with last update... Don't know why, a mystery. 129 is more versatile because you can shoot 20mm alone so you keep your 30mm ammo for armored targets. 

If you like to fly low (but not fast...), between the trees, give CAS for ground troops by burning tanks from behind with your 30mm, you will like it. 

Btw with Kuban you have the 110G2 which is probably the most versatile aircraft of the game (fast, quite maneuvrable, lot of choice with loadout: gunpods, 37 or 2x20mm, bombs).

 

The main problem with 129 is speed. So slow that you need fighters to clean the sky and the flak (129 is an easy meat for the flak).

 

Fw190 A3 is a great great fighter (fast, maneuvrable at medium and high speed, very good firepower).

Edited March 26, 2019 by F/JG300_Faucon

[CountZero]

16 hours ago, Sublime said:

I know this is largely opinion. Please hear me out. I cant afford Kuban or Bodenplatte YET or itd be LA5FN or a Bodenplatte plane or Kuban.

The IL2 BOM planes arent really my cup of tea but the map, and extra career mode is a big deal. Plus the P40 despite its sucky reputatiin intrigues me.

Question 1 - is the p40 still nerfed?

So since no Kuban no LA5FN or Id get that or a Yak1B.

So my question is this. I havent really tried ground attack.  Im sure Inwont be as good as it as a2a but the HS129 Ive never even seen modelled and intrigues me.

But more realistically Im torn between just (for now, financial issues) going for a FW190 A3 or LA5 regular.

Yes I know it depends what I like and how I play. I turn fight more but can BnZ. Ive gotten lazy using jets in DCS and so I like the easy mixture etc on German planes. But I want to hear peoples real opinions about the HS129, P40, Fw190A3, and LA5 PLEASE.. I know its oppinion in the end..

But i really want to hear what people think is the best choice, why, possible nerfs or limitations, and what theyre like now. Most posts I see are years old now!

Thanks!!

Get BoS premium while its still on sale for 28$, 190a3 and la5 are worth it.

P-40 is crapy, and 110s are better then hs129 for GA, also not worth it. So maybe getting BoM standard now while its 17$ is good deal.

You regulary have some sales, and in few months youll probably have some good up to 60%+ disconts on collector airplanes so get then P-40 if you realy have to, but its engine menagment is same like any usa airplane in game and good reason to avoid them.

[MasserME262]

8 hours ago, MarderIV said:

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it's charming and flies well

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Hell, If there is something americans do well, is creating planes that flies beautifully, and the P-40 is no exception.

What a beautiful plane to fly indeed, even if its engine leaves lots to be desired

[CanadaOne]

I like the P-40.

 

It's like the Ford F150 of planes.

[blitze]

9 minutes ago, ME-BFMasserME262 said:

Hell, If there is something americans do well, is creating planes that flies beautifully, and the P-40 is no exception.

What a beautiful plane to fly indeed, even if its engine leaves lots to be desired

Nothing wrong with the engine - easy to remember, higher you go, the more throttle you use.  Very simple, just don't use all your throttle down low. or BOOM - blown engine ))

[Sublime]

Thanks for the replies.

Let me elaborate. Im not that new at all. Im new to the BOS or IL2 pt2

I used to fly the original for years and I just migrated from DCS fed up with some of their issues and annoyed because I couldnt afford the ridiculously expensive F14 module. (Boo hoo)

I DO own Stalingrad. Moscows on sale but I dont like many of the planes.  Bodenplatte looks awesome but its not done.  Kuban would be great but I have some financial difficulties.  So really itsa premium plane for now.

As to the descriptions I know what all these planes are. I asked about thw HS129 specifically because Ive NEVER seen it modelled before.  Otherwise Im really torn between the Fw190a3(which doesnt cater to my fighting style) or the LA5. I love the FN not so sure about the regular -5. Or a Yak1B. Of course I realize many planes I mentioned or have interest in will require the Kuban.

Yes its not called Il2 for nothing. I hate the damned plane.  As far as now - its got the most finicky engine in the game of the planes I have taken up. (However I went easy and just focussed on my favorite 109 the F4)

I appreciate all your answers guys!  Just pointing out I wanted more input on how the planes feel in game, any issues (major flying issues like needibg to change your whole style or you need to babysit the rpms, manifold, etc.) And like for example reading about the Dora people were saying it may be the best 3d model yet.  So if someone thought perhaps. X plane model visually or otherwise fairly subpar for nowadays.. Id like to hear. I know opinions are like @ssholes. Thanks for the replies you guys are a lot different than the DCS board. Ugh

[Cpt_Cool]

6 minutes ago, Sublime said:

Thanks for the replies.

Let me elaborate. Im not that new at all. Im new to the BOS or IL2 pt2

I used to fly the original for years and I just migrated from DCS fed up with some of their issues and annoyed because I couldnt afford the ridiculously expensive F14 module. (Boo hoo)

I DO own Stalingrad. Moscows on sale but I dont like many of the planes.  Bodenplatte looks awesome but its not done.  Kuban would be great but I have some financial difficulties.  So really itsa premium plane for now.

As to the descriptions I know what all these planes are. I asked about thw HS129 specifically because Ive NEVER seen it modelled before.  Otherwise Im really torn between the Fw190a3(which doesnt cater to my fighting style) or the LA5. I love the FN not so sure about the regular -5. Or a Yak1B. Of course I realize many planes I mentioned or have interest in will require the Kuban.

Yes its not called Il2 for nothing. I hate the damned plane.  As far as now - its got the most finicky engine in the game of the planes I have taken up. (However I went easy and just focussed on my favorite 109 the F4)

I appreciate all your answers guys!  Just pointing out I wanted more input on how the planes feel in game, any issues (major flying issues like needibg to change your whole style or you need to babysit the rpms, manifold, etc.) And like for example reading about the Dora people were saying it may be the best 3d model yet.  So if someone thought perhaps. X plane model visually or otherwise fairly subpar for nowadays.. Id like to hear. I know opinions are like @ssholes. Thanks for the replies you guys are a lot different than the DCS board. Ugh

 

 

Also, if you have purchased BOS on steam, you can actually buy direct from the IL2 website instead of steam. I think the steam sales are over but the website sales are still running. Also the devs dont lose a cut to steam, which is nice. (if you buy stuff from the website, you still launch the game from steam but all your extras will be unlocked).

[CanadaOne]

6 minutes ago, Sublime said:

Thanks for the replies.

Let me elaborate. Im not that new at all. Im new to the BOS or IL2 pt2

I used to fly the original for years and I just migrated from DCS fed up with some of their issues and annoyed because I couldnt afford the ridiculously expensive F14 module. (Boo hoo)

I DO own Stalingrad. Moscows on sale but I dont like many of the planes.  Bodenplatte looks awesome but its not done.  Kuban would be great but I have some financial difficulties.  So really itsa premium plane for now.

As to the descriptions I know what all these planes are. I asked about thw HS129 specifically because Ive NEVER seen it modelled before.  Otherwise Im really torn between the Fw190a3(which doesnt cater to my fighting style) or the LA5. I love the FN not so sure about the regular -5. Or a Yak1B. Of course I realize many planes I mentioned or have interest in will require the Kuban.

Yes its not called Il2 for nothing. I hate the damned plane.  As far as now - its got the most finicky engine in the game of the planes I have taken up. (However I went easy and just focussed on my favorite 109 the F4)

I appreciate all your answers guys!  Just pointing out I wanted more input on how the planes feel in game, any issues (major flying issues like needibg to change your whole style or you need to babysit the rpms, manifold, etc.) And like for example reading about the Dora people were saying it may be the best 3d model yet.  So if someone thought perhaps. X plane model visually or otherwise fairly subpar for nowadays.. Id like to hear. I know opinions are like @ssholes. Thanks for the replies you guys are a lot different than the DCS board. Ugh

 

Yes, we are awesome. 

 

For my part, I fly the HS129 rarely because I don't really like the "flying window" eye candy it offers as far as cockpit views go. I find it slow and unremarkable as far as flying fun goes. On the other hand, it's a great tank destroyer.

 

I like the La5. Good fun to fly, beauty of a cockpit, decent punch and speed. Nice plane.

[Sublime]

Yes I noticed 1C had the same deal going longer and I regretted getting BoS on steam - only bc it was 16 dollars.  I wish I had checked 1Cs site as Id have rather given them my money

Yeah the 129 really only waa going to be novelty. I gave a hard enough time spotting enemy planes and I havent even dared go onto MP yet.  Ground targets? LOL! 

Thing is I really love the La5FN. Though the LA5 is close.   Interestibg someone else noted how youre right on the front with the 190 A3.  I noticed that last night.  In the "on the approaches" career mode start theyre right at Pitomnik and probably in mortar distance too.

I like how Stalingrad looks like a boiling cauldron.  That feels right.  I also did like how towns had plumes of smoke like theyd been fougbt over.. A tiny gripe but it seems a bit silly when I fly over a town thats been behind my lines in winter 2 weeks and its still gushing smoke.  I also DO miss random civvie traffic but they put so much into this these are tiny tiny complaints. One of my biggest gripes with DCS was I coulent even play MP until this year. It simply necer worked.  And DCS is lame SP compared to this.  That said after I can start getting more than 3 or 4 AI kills WITHOUT the extra 20mm gunpods on my F4 ill go online and let you guys humiliate me. I always chuckle in SP getting away with shit

[Guest deleted@50488]

For me IL-2 turned out to be pretty much the only go-to sim when not using Condor for soaring simulation.

 

Reason is the unique "feel of flight" I get out of it, the superb ambience in the multiplayer sessions I sometimes get into, the remarkable dedication of 1C / 777 to update it and try to, to it's very best, satisfy user commnunity requests.

 

I just do not own TC, because it' would be expensive for something I am sure I would use very few times if ever...

 

Looking forward for the next Bodenplatte aircraft, specially the P51d.

Edited March 26, 2019 by jcomm

[RedKestrel]

44 minutes ago, Sublime said:

Thanks for the replies.

Let me elaborate. Im not that new at all. Im new to the BOS or IL2 pt2

I used to fly the original for years and I just migrated from DCS fed up with some of their issues and annoyed because I couldnt afford the ridiculously expensive F14 module. (Boo hoo)

I DO own Stalingrad. Moscows on sale but I dont like many of the planes.  Bodenplatte looks awesome but its not done.  Kuban would be great but I have some financial difficulties.  So really itsa premium plane for now.

As to the descriptions I know what all these planes are. I asked about thw HS129 specifically because Ive NEVER seen it modelled before.  Otherwise Im really torn between the Fw190a3(which doesnt cater to my fighting style) or the LA5. I love the FN not so sure about the regular -5. Or a Yak1B. Of course I realize many planes I mentioned or have interest in will require the Kuban.

Yes its not called Il2 for nothing. I hate the damned plane.  As far as now - its got the most finicky engine in the game of the planes I have taken up. (However I went easy and just focussed on my favorite 109 the F4)

I appreciate all your answers guys!  Just pointing out I wanted more input on how the planes feel in game, any issues (major flying issues like needibg to change your whole style or you need to babysit the rpms, manifold, etc.) And like for example reading about the Dora people were saying it may be the best 3d model yet.  So if someone thought perhaps. X plane model visually or otherwise fairly subpar for nowadays.. Id like to hear. I know opinions are like @ssholes. Thanks for the replies you guys are a lot different than the DCS board. Ugh

The regular La-5 is a blast to play. It's modeled much better here than in the older Il-2 game. It's an interesting plane to fly, and in the right hands its's one of the better VVS fighters, very competitive in the mid-war period. I would recommend it. You really can't go wrong. if you like the La-5FN you'll like the normal La-5, its just got a little less performance. Bonus to the La-5 is it is available across a longer timeline, so you'll be able to play it for longer stretches in the Career mode and probably on more servers online.

For Battle of Moscow, really consider getting it. The MiG-3 is modeled well here, again much better and more sophisticated than in old Il-2, and we have a late version that has some of the early version's worst vices dealt with. I really didn't think I would like the MiG but it ended up being a challenge to fly but very rewarding. The I-16 is just plain old good fun, it's a tiny little aerobatic plane with great visibility and you can do some crazy stuff in it. Not really competitive at all but its just so fun to fly I fly it whenever its available. I may be a bit biased here, everything is subjective but I enjoy flying the Battle of Moscow planes more than any other.

[Sublime]

Ok thanks.  I actually PMd someone awesome who may gift it! (bom)

[Sublime]

Spartan85 doesnt even know me and gifted me premium BOM. You g7ys a4e fantastic!!!  Shoutout @spartan85 you were so generous and nice to a total stranger!

Ok ! Premium BoM! I hate I got another interview at 4 or Id be home playing now lol!  So I guess Ill get my p40 anyways

 

Im used to american controls from my dcs p51d..  Whats peoples thoughts ofbthe Machia 202? I gotta say ive shot more of those mistakenly in SP than many other planes. God they look russian until its almost too late. Thank god none got downed.

[BubiHUN]

5 minutes ago, Sublime said:

Whats peoples thoughts ofbthe Machia 202?

It's fast, turns good, climbs good, its nose guns are quite good. Visibility is not the best, and blow 2000 meters you shouldnt use more throttle than 69%, if you are not in combat.

[Sublime]

Ok thanks. Im working slow to master planes. Il2 BOM is huge for me!  Im so grateful someone gifted me it to help. Im most interested in the

P40 for allies

And Ju88( i javent flown the He111 but this is important)  and also this will make my careers longer

What are the differences between the 109 F2 and thw E7? Were the original Emils auto like the F4s? And if so why did the E7s need. Manual regulation of the oil etc from what I heard? I noticed the e 7s in BoS seem stuck doing LOTS of ground atttack

[BubiHUN]

1 hour ago, Sublime said:

And if so why did the E7s need. Manual regulation of the oil etc from what I heard?

There was no Kommandogerat in that time, wich controlled radiators, supercharger, prop pitch, mixture.

 

1 hour ago, Sublime said:

Were the original Emils auto like the F4s?

No, they werent. 

Edited March 26, 2019 by -[HRAF]BubiHUN

[CanadaOne]

1 hour ago, Sublime said:

Spartan85 doesnt even know me and gifted me premium BOM. You g7ys a4e fantastic!!!  Shoutout @spartan85 you were so generous and nice to a total stranger!

 

 

That he is.

 

[Sublime]

So until Kuban and Bodenplatte ( i rlly only want the dora, the p38, p47, and maybe spit... The others are meh to me tbh)

Kuban I love tue FN and wanna tool around with spits and lend lease planes.

However that awesome dude Spartan85 gifted me a pre.ium edition of BoM!! So solid!!

So im gonna avoid the E7. I wanna master planes instead of tooling around. I MAY start my germab figghter career in F2s and play theough stalingrad. But

Seeing as how La5s, fw190 a3s arent affordable for me now.. im doign a disservice flying these automated German planes. So Im gonna choose the warhawk. Alsonwhats cool is theresa couple p40 squads in BoS. So id anyone can PM me tips on engine management etc. I can fmy just fine but I got a.. I believe its a saiyek 3d pro.  No rudder pedals or headset. The joy handle is the rudder and i fly fine with it. I realized i need to bind for what plane im gonna fly.   What keys would yiu guys deem essential in a P40? Throttle, RPM, and what oil mixture and cowls? Any tips info would be appreciated. And no I dont think Im gonna be going to 4 .50 cals. Im keeping the 6 and getting more ammo ?

also whats the deal with the E7.  Was the E4 the same? As in non automated sruff? Was that new wirh F2s or F4s?

keep in mind guys I tried playing a Il2 and the plane I couldnt keep the engine going. I got a few kills in a Yak.  I can consistently (though yes its on easy) score 5 or 6 AI kills ob a good mission but thats with the gondolas. I think theyre great and 14km/h isnt bad. It could be bad in MP though where yiu really may need the extra performance...

4 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

That he is.

 

seriously too - Id had a few beers and a lottle mary jane and like a boorish fool saw him offer a stranger some free stuff. So I msged him like "hey if that guy didnt take it I will!"

He responxed todayand I felt such a fool I apolofiged etc. The nerve of me to msg him like that. He still gifted it too!

The ONLY other gaming commubity thats done that for me is the Combat Mission community and I been a board member there si ce 1999

Speaki g of which any CM players here? I can return the favor and not for sure but prolly get a CM game ir module gifted

21 minutes ago, -[HRAF]BubiHUN said:

There was no Kommandogerat in that time, wich controlled radiators, supercharger, prop pitch, mixture.

 

No, they werent. 

Oooh interesting. So the F2 introduced the automated controls? Or no?

My biggest gripes for Il2 is i wish they had a drop down for planes so I didnt have to remap everything for the plane im flying. i found trying to play otherwise is foolish. My other gripe is I wish there were more trains and convoys and targets of opportunity. Someday though. I rage quit alot but iron man career modes soo addictive.

 

I have DCS experience flying the P51D. I can deal with the oil mix and rpms etc. Its annoying compared to a 109..

 

Ok so this awesome guy spartan85 helped me out huge. Premium BoM. The Italian planes interesting but meh.  

So BoM.  I like to focus on one plane at a time really. Or one per side. The most interesting plane for me in BoM (and none are 'boring') is the P40.

So ANY tips, links to guides. What keys are most important to bind? How do I handle engine management? Tips of any sort are going ti be appreciated. Im gonna keep flying my German campaign in BoS but Im gonna read up on the P40, and thatd gonna be my new allied toy to learn.  Especially it goes tbru 3 campaigns! Im sure by 43 its really crap but I bet if I get better in 41/42 it can be a terror...

[Sublime]

Well Kuban and bodenplatte cab wait.  So besides interest in eventually learbing the stuja and il2 in ww2 games im a fighter pilot. Im very plsed i got heinkel 111s. I havent played career mode for the stalingrad air bridge i hope they model the contstant soviet attacks on Ju52s.

So fellas.  Any advice on BoS (non premium) and BoM planes is welcome. However most of all 1 p40. 2 il2/stuka 3. Early 109s 4.I16

The rest in time .im not awesome in a yak but ill get kills. I despise lagg 3s hows the mig3?

I know what all these planes are what i wajt specifucally is stuff like

Enginemanagement advice or links. More detauled tge better. Good tactics or like someone mentioned combat flaps. What key bindings are most important? I got 12 on my joy plus a throttle and a castle hat..anything else. Please i dont need tge numbers i can get in game or someone telling me what a Hs129 is or somethijg. I work on BnZ. But im not great and always end up in turn fights especiially in ww2 aircraft.

Thoughts?

[BubiHUN]

34 minutes ago, Sublime said:

I wish there were more trains and convoys and targets of opportunity.

If you are interested in MP, on KOTA we have late war scenarios with those targets you mentioned. Our player base is very friendly, and helpful. 

[MasserME262]

4 hours ago, blitze said:

Nothing wrong with the engine - easy to remember, higher you go, the more throttle you use.  Very simple, just don't use all your throttle down low. or BOOM - blown engine ))

Yeah I know, but compared to german or even russian engines, I feel it so week.

 

I have blown its engine only once, at my first take off with that plane.

[Sublime]

Ok so. Any advice on P40. Is the F2 the first automated 109 then?

47 minutes ago, -[HRAF]BubiHUN said:

If you are interested in MP, on KOTA we have late war scenarios with those targets you mentioned. Our player base is very friendly, and helpful. 

Thanks! But all my warvirds now are 41/42 era. Ill still join but untik I get more money Ill prolly be little use... 

[BubiHUN]

7 minutes ago, Sublime said:

Ok so. Any advice on P40. Is the F2 the first automated 109 then?

Thanks! But all my warvirds now are 41/42 era. Ill still join but untik I get more money Ill prolly be little use... 

We have early war missions too. Feel free to join.

[Sublime]

Oh I will. But seeinf as how I can only really fly a Bf109 F4 competently now I dont feel ready for MP. Il2 GREATLY needs tutorials with voiceovers like DCS. For example this P40 stuff - I cant find when I need to prop pitch what I should set engine cowls to in combat etc etc

[blitze]

3 hours ago, ME-BFMasserME262 said:

Yeah I know, but compared to german or even russian engines, I feel it so week.

 

I have blown its engine only once, at my first take off with that plane.

Yeah - I used to blow it when taking off and scratching my head wondering WTF ?

 

Then I learned to keep Manifold pressure at full rpm around 40 to 42 Inch what ever the weird American unit was.  Hard to do as the throttle wants to have it run up easily into 50+ so you have to monitor it as your prop spools up to set RPMs.  Then after take off with some alt and undercart up, bring rpms down a couple hundred and ease up on the throttle - When cruising then keep it as per the continuous suggestion in the Plane Notes.  The good thing with the P40 and 47 is that their gauges have markings coloured on them for where you need to have the needles.  Once you understand them, they are quite easy to stay within.

[Sublime]

Theoretically guys lets say I havent even shot a llane down in a P40 yet! if I didnt fly P40s what would you guys recommend as a good soviet fighter? The yak? I dont have any premies cept the BoM premies.. I wanma keep messing with the P40 but so much is unexplained. When do I mess with the prop pitch. Etc etc etc

[Blackhawk_FR]

Yak is very good with quite easy engine management. Engine won't break at full power, you only have to manage rads to avoid overheating. 

[Sublime]

I thought about it. Its the obly soviet fighter Ive had much luck in. But I like a challenge. I just gotta figure out WHAT needs to ve mapped and what doesnt on my logitech 3dpro

[Panzerlang]

16 minutes ago, Sublime said:

Theoretically guys lets say I havent even shot a llane down in a P40 yet! if I didnt fly P40s what would you guys recommend as a good soviet fighter? The yak? I dont have any premies cept the BoM premies.. I wanma keep messing with the P40 but so much is unexplained. When do I mess with the prop pitch. Etc etc etc

 

If you love the P40, master it.

[Sublime]

I dont understand when to add prop pitch or not. I watched tutorials so much is left unexplained!!

Like i appreciate chucks work but his dcs guides tell you how to fly the plane etc his Il2 ones its like he just lists the max/mins of everything.

When is it advantageous to have more prop pitch or less? When is it more important to have richer oil? Combat and takr off?  Should I keeo the cowl closed at all times except overheats? Or during combat shud I open her up 10% just in case?  I really started a 109 career in BoM but I thought " Im being a pussy and restarted as P40. I always play iron man so I rarely last a a few days. I got one that made it 34 in Stalingrad and he.s a guest of Stalin now.

I love the 109s but I got a soft spot for US planes.  im an american.  And I just.. Well its different ya know?

Whats weird to me is somehow the stuka just .. Make sense? I fly it and I havemt done combat but I tooled arnd with it and got it handlong decent after 10 minutes..

I got a Ju88! First kill in the P40!! I really tore another up.  Though their gunners reallllly did a number on my engine. I didnt lose it but it was spraying oil everywhere and I had to land at an airfield which I sort of botched. Survived though ?

1k rubles per plane? Jeesh you get nothing for 1 kill in the Luftwaffe Ive been playing for the wrong team!! Lol

[56RAF_Roblex]

1 hour ago, Sublime said:

I dont understand when to add prop pitch or not. I watched tutorials so much is left unexplained!!

 

Usually when people talk about changing 'prop pitch' they are really talking about making sure your RPM is in the optimal range as they are usually linked together.   The correct RPM is described in the notes for every aircraft eg for the P47, setting the RPM to 2550 and not going above 42 of manifold will allow you to run all day without damaging the engine while 2700 & 52 will allow you more power for combat but only for 15m before it damages the engine. It's very similar to the way that you change gear in your car to stop it bogging down or over revving and blowing up.     I usually set 100% prop pitch while landing as it slows you down quicker as well as allowing faster acceleration if you need to abort the landing and generally allows better control of your speed.   As you are using low throttle settings it does no harm to the engine.     You might also use a low rpm if on a long cruise where you need to save fuel.

 

The P40 is probably the hardest plane to fly as the engine will blow up easily (though in answer to your question, yes you can leave the cowl flaps shut once you are up to speed)   Most German aircraft have lots of automation so are quite easy and most Russians are not too bad though you will have to watch the temperatures and adjust things more often.  If you must fly US aircraft then the P47 is probably the most forgiving.  It seems to have more levers to set than any other aircraft but mostly you just set them and forget them while others aircraft need you to constantly adjust radiators etc to keep the temperatures in safe range.

 

It is hard for anyone to give you general advice as each aircraft is different.  Read the notes and follow the guidelines on what engine settings to use.  There is usually a 'continuous' ie, safe, setting as well as a combat setting to be used for a restricted time and sometimes an 'emergency' setting  that you can only use for a few minutes before destroying your engine.   Also read what temperature ranges to keep the engine in. Many German aircraft have automated radiators  but in the Russian ones you will usually need to play with the water & oil radiators.  Things like the P40 don't have water rads, the engines are air cooled using the cowl flaps and usually the oil radiators are small and can be left fully open but check for each aircraft. (I forgot to mention that radiators usually slow you down if you just set them on their highest and some aircraft will break if you cool the engine too much)

Edited March 27, 2019 by 56RAF_Roblex

[Sublime]

Thank you.. The p40 doesnt seem to have a continous mode though or it seems off.  Regardless.. Ok so basically the rpms are sort of seperate from the throttle, as in without the throttle its just spinning faster but not doing much? So I want more prop pitch plus throttle say take off and combat and perhaps more less throttle landing or cruising?  When do you want way less prop pitch? I get it with the Stuka this has just got me all confused.

The other thing is I seem to control my manifold and all that fine without messing with the prop pitch but I know Im missing something important.

Fuel mixtures? Besides take off should I always wean my aircraft down until the engine sputters and increase some (if too fast to lean out of an open window to look for bluish flames?) What about combat? 3/4s rich?

Finally a few last ones. I flew 1 sortie in the mig3. Anemic armament so I swapped it for 2 20mm and the 2 12.7 gondolas.  The only buttom that seemed to do anything was fuel mix and i didnt need to mess with it and i couldnt seem to break the engine. It CANT be that easy can it? What am I missing with the Mig 3??

[56RAF_Roblex]

You control your manifold pressure with the throttle but you may need to reduce the rpm when using high throttle.  The same way that you control your car engine with the pedal but have  to adjust the gears to keep the engine from over revving.  

 

In most aircraft you could happily leave the fuel mixture at 100%.  It would just be a bit wasteful but who cares eh?   You will usually get the best performance from 100% mixture so no I would not reduce it during combat.  Also,  rich fuel cools the engine more and in combat you will be stressing your engine more so that extra cooling helps.  Some aircraft have an 'auto-rich' setting (around 85%) which is supposed to be optimal and maybe an auto-lean setting for long economical cruises  but in the game you rarely need that.   

THE MIG IS A SPECIAL CASE ?  It has been designed to run on 50% mixture (I think it also has some sort of automation (mechanical linkage?) at that setting to always use the best mix) and it has a boost that is engaged (mechanically?) by moving the mixture lever to 100% (only up to 15 minutes before damaging the engine I think)  Actually,  most people say the engine works better set at 80% and still lasts all day.    If you had set the mix to 100% and flown longer than 15 minutes it should have blown the engine.   The other things the mig does not like is chopping the throttle quickly then ramming it back to 100%.  It often breaks the engine instantly.  The P39 has the same weakness though in that case I think it is because the drive shaft is so much longer.

[Sublime]

Thank you.  Watching some stuff on youtube I realized there was a lot going on with the Mig I wasnt doing. Unlike the P40 I wasnt flying it in a career like F it, I just decided to try itina quick dogfight and was pretty surprised. Especially in hindsight knowing I ignored thw water and oil coolant and basically kept my fuel mix at 100 (yes it did mechanically boost) but lowering it when not at max power a little.. In hindsight Im not sure how much longer the engine would hace taken my nonsense.  I try not to be super rough on the throttle..

[Sublime]

Also heres a stumbling point for me.

Prop pitch seems to be about rpm. Theres rpm increase and decrease controls though.  Why wouldnt I just use those like a Ju87?  Why would I instead use prop pitch high and low for example?

Etc. Bear with me I understand your explanation Im just trying to understand.. I get I want hirer rpms and throttle for combat and take offs and higher rpms and lower my throttle for say landing if I may need to 'bolter'.  But Im trying to understand the difference between simple rpm control or prop pitch. Or are they the same? If so why the options for prop pitch otherwise?

 

Finally Ive tried feathering my engine in 109s several times now when it finally crapped out after battle damage. Never works?  Or I dont get a text confirmation? It seems I just throttle it down and it stops windmilling unless I dive her?