P-51B (and Mustang Mk III) as collector

[LUZITANO]

Hello pilots. I would like to introduce a suggestion that could be practical in several aspects

Following the West Frontier and the Battle of Bodenplatte. This variant of the P-51 could both be used in battles of 1944 as well as in the final battles of the war. It was a P-51 introduced in combat in December of 1943 and that took action of this period until the end of the war

As a collector's aircraft the P-51B could facilitate players' access to the late West front
 

P-51B

Modifications:
V-1650-7

Malcolm Hood
V-1650-7, 150 fuel grade and Malcolm Hood (to turn it into a Mustang Mk.III)*

2x20 Fragmentation Bombs
2x 250lb Bombs
2x 500lb Bombs
2x 1000lb Bombs
2x 75 Gal. Droptank

 

*V-1650-7 using 150 fuel grade and Malcolm Hood modes automatically turn the P-51B into the C version for use by the RAF as Mustang Mk III

Mustang Mk III version is the P-51C (most were from that version). P-51C-10 has an additional self-sealing fuel tank of 321 liters behind the pilot

Technical specifications

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This variant of the Mustang is very fast and slightly more maneuverable than the D version

In our beloved IL-2 1946 we also have the P-51C-10-NT version. This version uses the engine V-1650-7, equivalent to the Merlin 66 and is equipped with Malcolm Hood

 

P-51B/C with Malcolm Hood

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It was used by Polish aces in the RAF

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Edited November 25, 2019 by LUZITANO

[Ehret]

I have nothing against but personally I'd like the A-36, too. They are similar enough and A-36 would bring interesting and unique features for Mustang like nose guns and air-brakes.

Edited March 9, 2019 by Ehret

[6FG_Big_Al]

I hope this variant finds its way into the game!

But at the moment I have rather doubts that it will not become a Collector Plane. I think I saw somewhere that for example the Typhoon will be more a part of an plane set than a collector. After all, these are (just like the Tempest) predecessors. On top of that, I don't think the B variant was in use anymore in January 1945 during Operation Bodenplatte, or was it?   Maybe we'll get an Italy or Normandy scenario where this Mustang is part of it.  

 

 

[8ELT_Grzesiek]

4 hours ago, LUZITANO said:

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It was used by Polish aces in the RAF

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                                                              This is Mustang from 315 Polish squadron, the second from left wing is his rider Eugeniusz Horbaczewski, who unfortunately died in combat flight over France in August 1944.

 

 

Edited March 9, 2019 by 8ELT_Grzesiek

[=27=Davesteu]

This thread was posted a few days ago:

 

to quote myself:

On 2/21/2019 at 7:17 PM, =27=Davesteu said:

The last Mustang Mk. III equipped squadron left the 2nd TAF and the continent in late September. Fighter-reconnaissance Mustang Mk. I, IA, and II served throughout the BoBP-timeframe within the BoBP-map's boundaries.
A Mustang Mk. I(A) would be nice (or a A-36 over Burma), but there are more important gaps in the BoBP planeset to be filled first.

[BM357_TinMan]

I guess I always just assumed that, as long as this franchise is still being developed, the "B" and "C" would be forthcoming; and in the not too distant future.
It was always my impression that they just haven't got to them yet.

[JV69badatflyski]

On 3/9/2019 at 11:28 AM, 8ELT_Grzesiek said:

 

                                                              This is Mustang from 315 Polish squadron, the second from left wing is his rider Eugeniusz Horbaczewski, who unfortunately died in combat flight over France in August 1944.

 

 

yes, and the marvelous 150-Oct made one a PoW because it destroyed the engine at cruise settings....

[Bremspropeller]

2 hours ago, JV69badatflyski said:

yes, and the marvelous 150-Oct made one a PoW because it destroyed the engine at cruise settings....

 

Yeah, it certainly was the ONLY engine ever in history that failed at nominal cruise power...

[Trooper117]

I'd buy it... just like I would buy the razorback P-47 as well  ?

[sevenless]

Would fit perfectly well to a Normandy Expansion with the P-47 Razorback and a Typhoon, wouldn´t it?

[JV69badatflyski]

On 3/26/2019 at 6:27 PM, Bremspropeller said:

 

Yeah, it certainly was the ONLY engine ever in history that failed at nominal cruise power...

how?!?
After reading all the specialists here, i really thought the Merlin was the pinnacle of engineering, the  valhalla of engines , that couldn't even break if pushed at 5Ata on 200Oct fuel.
The magic engine able to work even underwater compressing the H2O into H2 using the magical leadfree sparkplugs....
Someone lied to me? Are all the specialists here sooooo wrooooong?


Ps: I'd like to have  it too as the PoneyIII looks better than then D to my eyes...just like the Bolt Razorback.

[LukeFF]

Looks like someone missed the sarcasm in @Bremspropeller's reply. 

[Bremspropeller]

No that's fime - I'm used to it.

People don't get my humor in five dimensions.

[JV69badatflyski]

On 4/1/2019 at 6:46 PM, LukeFF said:

Looks like someone missed the sarcasm in @Bremspropeller's reply. 

i think you missed mine 

 

On 4/1/2019 at 7:20 PM, Bremspropeller said:

No that's fime - I'm used to it.

People don't get my humor in five dimensions.

No brem, i do get it and like it! 

[-332FG-Buddy]

I'd be for this

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

On 3/9/2019 at 6:20 AM, LUZITANO said:

 

 

*V-1650-7 25lbs and Malcolm Hood modes automatically turn the P-51B into the C version for use by the RAF as Mustang Mk III

Mustang Mk III version is the P-51C (most were from that version). P-51C-10 has an additional self-sealing fuel tank of 321 liters behind the pilot

 

P-51B/C were the exact same aircraft. Reason for the change in denomination was they were produced in different factories and both the B-10 and C-10 had the 85 gal fuselage fuel tank

In the P-51D, this was signified by the suffix -NA or NT. B/C-15 had the V-1650-7 engine, though the engine block could be converted to a -3 or -7 as required in the field

[Bremspropeller]

To be more specific:

 

P-51Bs were built in Inglewood, CA - P-51Cs were built in Dallas, TX.

P-51D-NAs were built in Inglewood, P-51D-NTs were built in Dallas.

 

A P-51K is a P-51D-NT with an Aeroproducts propeller, a slightly different spinner and a different (but interchangeable) canopy.

 

 

The interesting question (any takers?) would be, if the Aeroproducts prop could be interchanged with the Hamilton (including the exchange of the hub/ spinner assemblies), of if they had to come as a motor-propeller combination for vibration-tuning purposes.

Edited April 12, 2019 by Bremspropeller

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

Yeah,

An example "Mrs Bonnie" which was a P-51K-10 photographed with the Hamilton prop fitted

[Motherbrain]

Yah I'd love to see Razorback versions of the P-51 and P47. The P-47 especially. 

 

 

Edited April 16, 2019 by Motherbrain

[Legioneod]

10 minutes ago, Motherbrain said:

Yah I'd love to see Razorback versions of the P-51 and P47. The P-47 especially. 

 

 

 

Agreed. I was working on the 3d model of a P-47D-22 but it's on hold for the time being.

[Motherbrain]

4 minutes ago, Legioneod said:

 

Agreed. I was working on the 3d model of a P-47D-22 but it's on hold for the time being.

 

I like razorbacks better than the bubble tops for some reason. Or just older versions of most planes in general to be honest.

 

Including the really old versions of the Hurricane and Spitfire with those huge, fixed pitch propellers. ?

 

 

I know most people seem to be obsessed with the numbers and really just want the best of the best of stuff, but to me, I just like the way the older stuff looks. But that's just me.

[[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR]

Early P-51s are just gorgeous birds

 

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

On 4/1/2019 at 10:20 AM, Bremspropeller said:

No that's fime - I'm used to it.

People don't get my humor in five dimensions.

 

Have you tried field testing your humor with our resident fifth dimensionalist?

[Sobilak]

To be correctly  all RAF P-51B/C and some USAAF on ETO  has mounted British  MkII Reflector gunsight .

 

P-47 D versions to