How to dive bomb with JU 88?

[PandaCheese]

Anyone care to share any tips? I found a lot of discussions on interesting historical material but not much that helps me practically in the game. Without Stuvi sight are you supposed to just eyeball it like in a fighter?  Is the default sight even useful for dive bombing?

[ShamrockOneFive]

It's harder without a dedicated sight for it but I've found myself being surprisingly accurate.

 

Typically I spot the target, dive brakes out, throttle back, roll left or right onto the target and zoom down at around 60-70 degrees. Once lined up I wait for the aircraft to stabilize and then when I'm low enough I wait for the target to disappear just beneath the gunsight and pull out. With a little luck I can usually get bombs on target.

 

I kind of eyeball the whole thing without thinking about it that much these days so you may need to tweak the above method a bit.

[PandaCheese]

2 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

It's harder without a dedicated sight for it but I've found myself being surprisingly accurate.

 

Typically I spot the target, dive brakes out, throttle back, roll left or right onto the target and zoom down at around 60-70 degrees. Once lined up I wait for the aircraft to stabilize and then when I'm low enough I wait for the target to disappear just beneath the gunsight and pull out. With a little luck I can usually get bombs on target.

 

I kind of eyeball the whole thing without thinking about it that much these days so you may need to tweak the above method a bit.

 

May I ask what altitude you typically start at and when you pull out?

[ShamrockOneFive]

1 minute ago, PandaCheese said:

 

May I ask what altitude you typically start at and when you pull out?

 

Starting at approximately 2000 meters and pull out around... 400ish.

[SharpeXB]

These are always a good source 

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

Don't bother with the dive brakes, they're useless gadgets. The rest is a plain vanilla dive attack.

Make sure you reduce throttle and you coarsen the prop-pitch before starting the dive so you won't overspeed the props.

[Guest deleted@83466]

Graphic from 'Luftwaffe Bomber Aces: Men. Machines. Methods', by Mike Spick.  I guess it pulled itself out automatically, upon bomb release, but this is the standard attack profile.

 

 

47 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

Don't bother with the dive brakes, they're useless gadgets. The rest is a plain vanilla dive attack.

Make sure you reduce throttle and you coarsen the prop-pitch before starting the dive so you won't overspeed the props.

 

I don't do a lot of virtual dive bombing in this game, and honestly maybe only have done dive bombing in the JU-88 a couple of times offline, but still, I'm not so sure I agree with that.  Obviously bring back the throttle,  but I would absolutely use dive brakes, and I wouldn't coursen the prop-pitch, I would make it more 'fine' (high rpm). 

Edited January 15, 2019 by SeaSerpent

[ShamrockOneFive]

3 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

Don't bother with the dive brakes, they're useless gadgets. The rest is a plain vanilla dive attack.

Make sure you reduce throttle and you coarsen the prop-pitch before starting the dive so you won't overspeed the props.

 

You can do it without the brakes but I use them every time I perform one of these. It gives me more time to line-up the target and less speed at the end to worry about crashing into a hill or something on the pull-out.

 

That said, they do leave you slower and less able to avoid an attack if fighters are about to bounce you.

[Gr3y]

Does contact altimeter finally work or is it still not implemented?

 

Also does anyone have any nice video about ju 88 dive bombing, as it seems I always drop bombs too quick?

[Lusekofte]

I read they usually put JU 88 in  a30 degree dive

[Gr3y]

@LuseKofte

 

30 degree is almost level bombing  Even on the left window there are markings for 40-70 dives, so I would like to be as close as I can to reality. To be honest I am not bad with it, when it comes to dive bombing ground targets but bombing naval is different story, missing them by couple meters with no damage all the time...

[Pict]

On 1/16/2019 at 12:04 AM, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

You can do it without the brakes but I use them every time I perform one of these. It gives me more time to line-up the target and less speed at the end to worry about crashing into a hill or something on the pull-out.

 

That said, they do leave you slower and less able to avoid an attack if fighters are about to bounce you.

 

I imagine it depends a lot on how the AAA is at the target as to whether you can get away with using them or not.

 

Using the Pe-2 a lot on the TAW server, I quickly dispensed with the luxury of the dive brakes, as the flak set up they had around the targets just took you out before you could even get lined up to drop your bombs or nailed you on the way out as you'd lost so much speed. Kind of frustrating as dive bomb aiming became a somewhat frantic affair between trying to line up a target and trying to prevent your engines from self destructing, or like you said, lawn darting into the scenery.

 

I've yet to try a dive bomber in a single player campaign, but I just got the incentive to do so  

Edited July 6, 2019 by Pict
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[Yogiflight]

56 minutes ago, Pict said:

 

I imagine it depends a lot on how the AAA is at the target as to whether you can get away with using them or not.

 

Using the Pe-2 a lot on the TAW server, I quickly dispensed with the luxury of the dive brakes, as the flak set up they had around the targets just took you out before you could even get lined up to drop your bombs or nailed you on the way out as you'd lost so much speed. Kind of frustrating as dive bomb aiming became a somewhat frantic affair between trying to line up a target and trying to prevent your engines from self destructing, or like you said, lawn darting into the scenery.

 

I've yet to try a dive bomber in a single player campaign, but I just got the incentive to do so  

It also depends on the altitude you start your dive and your dive angle. When you start at 4k with a dive angle of 60° with a Ju88, you won't reach 1k in one piece without dive brakes, and you will get out of your dive in a quite decent speed, when using dive brakes.