IL-2 Battle of Finland

[Missionbug]

Will it be or not, we continue to wait in hope that it will see a release one day soon, but oh so much secrecy, what is happening guys, please throw out a scrap or two to keep the hope alive.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[blue_max]

Either that or a message that the project is dead. That would save me from checking this thread every now and then haha

[Duce_de_Zoop]

On 7/17/2018 at 7:56 AM, =27=Davesteu said:

Are you aware those two citys are 1000 km apart?

First generation IL2 "Gulf of Finland" map was my favorite stock one but it had its historical limits.
By trying to cover Winter War, Continuation War, Siege of Leningrad and Volkhov Front with one map they especially limited possibilities for latter three scenarios.
Important areas like Karelia or down to Lake Ilmen were missing and thereby omitting important parts of the overall picture.
What I'm trying to say: A simple rehearsal of the first generation map wouldn't be favorable at all in my opinion. Either Karelia or Siege of Leningrad.

 

The Myrsky would be a waste of development time. I love oddities, but this one simply isn't important enough to justify leaving out a Hawk 75, Blenheim or Do 17.

 

Feel like the Siege of Leningrad would be a poor start considering the relative Finnish... inaction in said siege, lol. 

 

I'd much prefer a Winter War-focused map if we're gonna get anything surrounding Finland. 

[JLean]

What I am really missing here in the IL-2 BoX compared to original Il-2 are those early war dogfights. I-153 vs. Gladiator or G.50  a bit more speed than in WWI but still it was mainly turning fights..unless some I-16 came to boom and zoom ?  

 

So lets keep this aspect warm....early war needs some love here. 

 

And these "Battle of Finland" planes will fit to many other theaters:

Blue line up (also many for reds)

Gladiator => everywhere 1939-1940

Blenheim => everywhere 1939-1941

G.50 Mediterranean 1940-41 

Ms.406 Battle of France 1940

Fokker DXXII  Battle of France 1940 (Pacific 41-42 maybe)

Brewster  (Pacific 41-42 maybe)

Curtiss P-36 Hawk  (France -40, Pacific 41-42) 

 

 

Soviet 1939 -41 line up

I-15bis

I-153

Lagg-3 ser 1->4

SB-2

DB-3 

P-40 Tomahawk 

 

 JLean 

Edited November 3, 2021 by JLean

[sevenless]

1 hour ago, JLean said:

Soviet 1939 -41 line up

I-15bis

I-153

Lagg-3 ser 1->4

SB-2

DB-3 

P-40 Tomahawk 

 

 JLean 

 

Perfect. Just add the early Yak-1 which saw plenty of service during Typhoon and Battle of Moscow.

 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

I have lost my hope in this project ... sorry! Too long, no news ;(

[Mtnbiker1998]

3 hours ago, JLean said:

What I am really missing here in the IL-2 BoX compared to original Il-2 are those early war dogfights. I-153 vs. Gladiator or G.50  a bit more speed than in WWI but still it was mainly turning fights..unless some I-16 came to boom and zoom ?  

 

So lets keep this aspect warm....early war needs some love here. 

 

And these "Battle of Finland" planes will fit to many other theaters:

Blue line up (also many for reds)

Gladiator => everywhere 1939-1940

Blenheim => everywhere 1939-1941

G.50 Mediterranean 1940-41 

Ms.406 Battle of France 1940

Fokker DXXII  Battle of France 1940 (Pacific 41-42 maybe)

Brewster  (Pacific 41-42 maybe)

 

Soviet 1939 -41 line up

I-15bis

I-153

Lagg-3 ser 1->4

SB-2

DB-3 

P-40 Tomahawk 

 

 JLean 

While Early war, and Eastern front are quite low on my wishlist for future IL-2 content, the battle of Finland planeset does seem pretty unique. Lots of cool lend-lease aircraft floating around on both sides. I'd be open to this, but Italy 1943 first! lol

[[F.Circus]FrangibleCover]

The Fiat G.50 was the most common Italian strike aircraft in Sicily, 1943. Which is more of an indictment of the Italian aviation industry than anything, but still an interesting example of  it fitting in two theatres.

[Flyfinn]

Hi Kanttori...

Any news about this map..??

Someting..??️

 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

Yes, please. A simple: 'we are moving forwards' will suffice.

Thanks 

[Aplana_Moscuu]

Don't worry guys. There might be some news forthcoming. Or maybe not. But it's not dead at all.

Edited October 31, 2022 by Aplana_Moscuu

[blue_max]

3 hours ago, Aplana_Moscuu said:

Don't worry guys. There might be some news forthcoming. Or maybe not. But it's not dead at all.

really or trolling?

[Aplana_Moscuu]

Really, but I won't be posting anything to back this up at least for now, as I don't want to be too much of an a**. I'm sure even this doesn't make the developers happy, but I think you have a right to know. I'm confident that it'll be released, but I've no idea how long it'll take. Shouldn't be years at least. 

Edited November 1, 2022 by Aplana_Moscuu

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

Let's cross our fingers! 

[AWC]

Exciting!

[BalticDude]

On 7/16/2018 at 11:50 AM, LUZITANO said:

I thought of this suggestion with great affection. I had the first contact with the history of the Battle of Finland playing the old IL-2-1946 years ago. The MS 410 was sooo cool. Here my simple suggestion  
 

IL-2 BATTLE OF FINLAND

 

Set of aircraft

Hawk 75A-3 (Collector)             P-40C (Collector)

Fiat G.50                                      I-16 Type 10
MS 406                                         I-153
B239                                             DB-3

Blenheim mk I                             SB-2

(Fokker D.XXI)

 

The Hawk 75A-3 (also A-6 ) and the P-40C as collectors, as they participated in many fronts beyond the East

There are many other planes that have not been mentioned but can be developed in other battle series. An example is the Gladiator Mk.II, which could also be developed in a desert battle 

The Hawk 75A-3 of France, but  with modification for weapons and germans gauges

 

Other fighters like the 109 and the Yak have already been developed in other series of battle, making possible a Continuation War

The main maps should be the front of Leningrad and the Baltic Sea. Also the port of Murmansk

I support 100%!

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

This one would buy right away and it can be basically from 1940 to 1944.

But they don't want jig cities ... what do we do with Leningrad?

[Jackfraser24]

Finland seems like a good candidate for the next Great Battles module.

[CUJO_1970]

Finland would be incredible...B-239 please.

 

Leningrad can get the Moscow treatment I guess.

[BMA_FlyingShark]

32 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said:

Finland would be incredible...B-239 please.

 

Leningrad can get the Moscow treatment I guess.

Good idea.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[E69_Falke_Wolf]

On 11/1/2022 at 5:49 PM, Aplana_Moscuu said:

Really, but I won't be posting anything to back this up at least for now, as I don't want to be too much of an a**. I'm sure even this doesn't make the developers happy, but I think you have a right to know. I'm confident that it'll be released, but I've no idea how long it'll take. Shouldn't be years at least. 

Winter and Continuation War have lots of fans, including me, It would be great.
I don't know to what extent this will develop but I'm sure it will be well received in the community if it goes ahead.
Good Luck!

[R7-S276]

It’s a great idea and MS-406, H75A3 and Blenheim MkI could open the door to a Battle of France after a Battle of Finland… 200% vote yes 

[Aplana_Moscuu]

https://m.facebook.com/groups/virtuaalilentajat/posts/10160487146517930/?mibextid=HsNCOg&refsrc=deprecated&_rdr

[CountZero]

That looks promising

[Flyfinn]

Wouu..

a dream come through..

But alot of work to be done still..

But its a live..??️

[Mtnbiker1998]

Can we get a translation, and a repost of the pictures for those of us without facebook?

[ilmavoimat]

Our team making the Karelia map is now called KarttaKompania and we are currently looking for new 3D modelers to join our team. The bottleneck in the publication of the Karelia map is now historical and generic city buildings.

The 512 km x 512 km terrain of the map has been made with the help of land cover data and old maps and aerial photographs with such accuracy that it is suitable for any historical flight sim. One game house that has seen our map file has already promised that the map will be published as a new product as soon as it is ready.

Karelia is one hundred percent Finnish work and will be until the end. That's why we now need new Finnish modelers to join us, and preferably from the east side of the Jyväskylä-Kotka axis, because modeling one's own hometown in particular is a nice job.

The map now extends to Joensuu (Onttola) in the north and Jyväskylä (Luonetjärvi) in the west. Next winter, we will prepare at least the small towns, towns and church villages of Southeast and Eastern Finland and the Karelian Isthmus. We will start populating the church villages, i.e. placing them on the map already this year.

The buildings in the center of Vyborg have already been completed, and the landmark buildings of Lappeenranta and the locks of the Saimaa canal are now being completed (see pictures), next we will move to the Imatra region. At the same time, all the buildings currently being completed are suitable as generic buildings for the cities, towns and church villages of Finland and the Karelian Isthmus.

The buildings and halls of Finnish airports are already 90 percent ready, and the rest will be completed and completed during the winter with the help of type drawings of old airport buildings available from the Air Force Museum. For example, Kymi's field only lacks a covered machine dugout and a warm maintenance hall for which drawings were now found. The undersigned has built airports that have already been tested to work, and the work is currently continuing at Lappeenranta airport. Immola airport with its funky buildings is already ready, as well as Suur-Merijoki and a few other Kannas fields.

Registration for modeling jobs and questions can be sent to me in a private message.

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

One question  is Leningrad going to be in this map?

Edited December 12, 2022 by =gRiJ=Roman-

[ilmavoimat]

3 hours ago, =gRiJ=Roman- said:

One question  is Leningrad going to be in this map?

I would imagine that Leningrad would be modelled similarly to Moscow i.e. visible in the distance but out of bounds to fly over so as to keep frame rates at a reasonable level.

[CountZero]

512x512 loks big (mutch bigger then any official map in game BoBp map is biggest and its ~130000km2 this is double size of 260000km2!). And if what is said on that facebook post for far north and far west is map borders on that side then it should cover this area, so Leningrad should have to be modeled fully and not like Moscow, as its in middle of map:

 

So then questions are why make so big map (double size then biggest map in game now) that it takes so long to make, why not start with small for first project, and will it even be flyable with any good FPS when units are on map and big citys like Leningrad when offical game makers are saying they cant do urban areas, and on top map is doubble in size of biggest map in game now.

Edited December 13, 2022 by CountZero

[Robli]

If it is 512 km x 512 km, extends to Joensuu in the North and Jyväskylä in the West, then it looks something like that.

It I am also kind of sceptical that the map can be that big. Kanttori said in his original post that they are doing 300 km x 300 km map. 

This map will also need to have at least winter and summer versions.

 

[Raptor341]

Glad to hear, keep it up!

[Flyfinn]

Some info about the map here.

Maybe you already know..?

 

The goal of 2023 is to have the central area of the map, the Karelian sthmus and the bottom of the Gulf of Finland, completed and tested by the Virtual Pilots multiplayer server with the gaming house. The flying area of the Karelian Sithmus map is 280km x 210km. Outside of this delimitation, there is fairly ready-made terrain 70 km north, east and south. We will finish that area in 2024 when the first version is ready for publication. After that, the size of the map is about 410km x 410km and the area to be flown is about 350km x 350km.

 

Lentorykmentti 3 - Virtuaalista ilmasotaa (kanttorinkone.com)

 

website

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Edited April 23, 2023 by Flyfinn

[AWC]

11 hours ago, Flyfinn said:

Some info about the map here.

Maybe you already know..?

 

The goal of 2023 is to have the central area of the map, the Karelian sthmus and the bottom of the Gulf of Finland, completed and tested by the Virtual Pilots multiplayer server with the gaming house. The flying area of the Karelian Sithmus map is 280km x 210km. Outside of this delimitation, there is fairly ready-made terrain 70 km north, east and south. We will finish that area in 2024 when the first version is ready for publication. After that, the size of the map is about 410km x 410km and the area to be flown is about 350km x 350km.

 

Lentorykmentti 3 - Virtuaalista ilmasotaa (kanttorinkone.com)

 

website

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Wow! This is huge news, I can't wait to fly on this map. Will there be an official announcement soon?

Edited April 24, 2023 by Lemsip

[jeanba]

Very interesting, thank you

[CountZero]

15 hours ago, Flyfinn said:

Some info about the map here.

Maybe you already know..?

 

The goal of 2023 is to have the central area of the map, the Karelian sthmus and the bottom of the Gulf of Finland, completed and tested by the Virtual Pilots multiplayer server with the gaming house. The flying area of the Karelian Sithmus map is 280km x 210km. Outside of this delimitation, there is fairly ready-made terrain 70 km north, east and south. We will finish that area in 2024 when the first version is ready for publication. After that, the size of the map is about 410km x 410km and the area to be flown is about 350km x 350km.

 

Lentorykmentti 3 - Virtuaalista ilmasotaa (kanttorinkone.com)

 

website

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Thats more resonable map size for this game

[jeanba]

16 hours ago, Flyfinn said:

Some info about the map here.

Maybe you already know..?

 

The goal of 2023 is to have the central area of the map, the Karelian sthmus and the bottom of the Gulf of Finland, completed and tested by the Virtual Pilots multiplayer server with the gaming house. The flying area of the Karelian Sithmus map is 280km x 210km. Outside of this delimitation, there is fairly ready-made terrain 70 km north, east and south. We will finish that area in 2024 when the first version is ready for publication. After that, the size of the map is about 410km x 410km and the area to be flown is about 350km x 350km.

 

Lentorykmentti 3 - Virtuaalista ilmasotaa (kanttorinkone.com)

 

website

?️

Can you show us the flyable area on this map ?

Would be great !

[CountZero]

picture posted shows 280km E to W and x 210km N to S, so i think this is whats flyable now from what they say, and later they will just finish 70km to N, E and S and that will be final 350x350 flyable 

[CUJO_1970]

Now we need I-153, DB-3 and B-239. 

[Habu]

I'm waiting some screenshot in game.