Wounded pilot victories?!

[senseispcc]

When I am wounded in a mission an must parachute out of my plane how cannot make it back to home base in any mission over friendly territory, I never receive my claims of Victory?

This happens mostly in missions with heavy (medium) bombers? Strange and disturbing. Is it Something that can be explained logically?! Or a error?! 

 

Edited July 12, 2018 by senseispcc

[Yogiflight]

In the career mode you should be credited for aircrafts, that are counted as destroyed by the game, before you bail out. If you shoot at an aircraft and bail out before it hits the ground, you won't be credited for it.

The other side is, if you are seriously wounded, so you would not survive your RTB, the game counts you in that very moment as lost, this means, when you are flightleader, you can't make radio calls anymore and your flight and enemies will treat you as if you were not there anymore. So if you shoot at an enemy and get seriously wounded before it crashes, you won't get credited for it, but you can rescue your life by bailing out. That is what I experienced so far.

[senseispcc]

Sorry, but in real live you were credited even if dead, why?! Because accreditation was done by bystanders not only by the person how scored the victories and a specially so on the Soviet side how it was an "obligation" to have at least one outside, ground or aerial, witness to a flyer Victory to accredit it. This was at least the procedure that I read of in books and articles.

Plus, how can you credit a "Tarrant" Victory with the actual system?! 

Edited July 14, 2018 by senseispcc
correction

[Yogiflight]

4 hours ago, senseispcc said:

Sorry, but in real live you were credited even if dead, why?! Because accreditation was done by bystanders not only by the person how scored the victories and a specially so on the Soviet side how it was an "obligation" to have at least one outside, ground or aerial, witness to a flyer Victory to accredit it. This was at least the procedure that I read of in books and articles.

Yes, but this is not real life and it is not really simulating it. It is a game, pretty arcadic IMHO, and has its clear rules.

The other side is, IRL the pilots didn't get air victories credited, of aircrafts that crashed much later on the way back to base, you get them credited here in the game. This is one of the things I absolutely appreciate in PWCG, where you have to claim your air victories, so you decide if you want those victories, you didn't really see.

[senseispcc]

Yes, I know this is not reality. And if You want reality then it should be impossible to replay the mission if one is dead in it?! But it is possible.

But like I said in my first post I did not die and I did survive my fight and could make a report of the battle… so your argument does seem a little Strange.

I did not make an argument it was realistic I said it said it was a loophole and I never said also that the plane I hit did never hit the ground he did?! But I never did on my parachute.

And yes even Pokryshkin did have multiple victories that where never credited. But the game is a game and when there are imperfections why not say so?!

Otherwise half of the victories of the players should not be credited, no?! Frustrating has this should be it should be realistic. 

But thank you for your answers.

[Yogiflight]

@senseispcc I think you misunderstood me. I just wanted to tell, how, from my experiences, the game handles it.

10 minutes ago, senseispcc said:

I did not die and I did survive my fight and could make a report of the battle

You don't have to die. Like I said in my first post, it is enough, that you are seriously wounded, and wouldn't make it back to your base, if you would not bail out.

 

10 minutes ago, senseispcc said:

I never said also that the plane I hit did never hit the ground he did?!

Of course a plane you destroy will hit the ground. But if this plane hits the ground after you bailed out, or like mentioned above after you get seriously wounded, then the game will not count it as your air victory.

I don't want to say, that this way, the game handles this is good, it definitely is not, but it is the way it does.