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InProgress
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2 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

No. They're not.

 

They're wonderful and soft and delicious and they smell good and are fun to talk to. :biggrin:

I don't think cannibalism is legal:blink:

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7 minutes ago, InProgress said:

I don't think cannibalism is legal:blink:

 

Fret not, my son, when you grow up and meet a woman, it will all become clear to you. :happy:

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[CPT]CptJackSparrow
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6 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Fret not, my son, when you grow up and meet a woman, it will all become clear to you. :happy:

 

Preach it!

 

Women are epic, epic of over 9000

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Feathered_IV
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1 hour ago, InProgress said:

I don't think cannibalism is legal:blink:

 

"Ooh!  E' tried to eat me 'ole!!"

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Luckily I sexually identify as a Sturmgeschütz III f/8 so dating is pretty easy for me. 

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[CPT]CptJackSparrow
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Mine is more charming then when we met.

 

She earns way more then me.

 

Your grasp of Texas family law is lacking. 

 

 

Just because you don't have betty Crocker crossed with a porn star at home doesn't mean that none of us do.

 

Or to translate that into gibberish speak: dogs barking can't fly without umbrella, unicorn in bacon must prove tungsten in grape is gear shifter proof! 

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1 hour ago, raaaid said:

its all a trap, theyre just cute and charming for a while, enough to trap you so you work for them and even then if you realize your mistake its too late youll still have to pay them

 

I bring mine her tea in bed every single weekday morning, and her coffee on the weekends.

 

That entitles me to slap her on the ass at will.

 

Fair trade. :good:

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TheBlackPenguin
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Getting back on point, perhaps its best to realize getting anything historical with any sort of accuracy out of EA is to expect accurate documentaries from the History channel...

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2 hours ago, TheBlackPenguin said:

Getting back on point, perhaps its best to realize getting anything historical with any sort of accuracy out of EA is to expect accurate documentaries from the History channel...

I thought the history channel was about selling pawn shop stuff and digging for gold?

 

 

Oh and getting in arguments while fixing up hot rods...

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InProgress
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7 hours ago, raaaid said:

well what i admit is women more intelligent than man

 

in my english filology degree there were 98 women and 2 guys and later in a master was the same

And how is that a sign of intelligence? On engineering classes or IT, mechanical and more, 99 if not 100% can be guys. Women dominate in nurse class or psychology, to be teachers etc. That has nothing to do with intelligence, it's just preference of men and women to choose certain subjects.

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Trooper117
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12 hours ago, raaaid said:

its all a trap, theyre just cute and charming for a while, enough to trap you so you work for them and even then if you realize your mistake its too late youll still have to pay them

 

That is the first credible and intelligent statement you have said in the last 10 years!... 

Feathered_IV
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I guess the truth of the matter is, rather than being some giant, heinous, eco-friendly conspiracy aimed at achieving unity, equality and broad sunlit uplands™ for one and all;  It is in fact Dice going, Hey...  that PubG and Fortnite thing is really raking in the bucks.  So are those Wolfenstein and Farcry Trump thingoes.  Lets get some hot chicks and cute battle cries.  A bunch of customisable uniforms.  Teddy Bears!  Yeah!!  Right on!  Band of Brother meets Marvel's Agents of Shield....   I mean like everybody will be playing this.  Those armchair wankers and the Overwatch crowd.  Even the Asians!  OMG, we will rule!!!

 

 

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Cybermat47
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36 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

Hey...  that PubG and Fortnite thing is really raking in the bucks.  

 

Well, Fortnite is... not sure how PUBG will go now that the devs are suing Fortnite’s devs, Epic Games, for daring to make a game of the same genre.

 

The best part is that PUBG runs on the Unreal engine, which was made by Epic Games :popcorm:

14 hours ago, NETSCAPE said:

Luckily I sexually identify as a Sturmgeschütz III f/8 so dating is pretty easy for me. 

 

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that cartoon isn’t real. Japanese women won’t actually fawn over your armour. I’m sorry :(

 

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InProgress
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Stug was a great tank... whaaaat? :crazy:

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7 hours ago, FFS_Cybermat47 said:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that cartoon isn’t real. Japanese women won’t actually fawn over your armour. I’m sorry

 

Cyber, I'm a wehraboo, not a weaboo. 

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Posted

 

 

Well I change my mind , The city I was born in is one of the maps. That is enough for me to pardon the inaccuracy . 

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Not sure what I find more irritating, SWJ's themselves or the people who keep complaining about them.

Both are niche groups who love shouting about how right they are, throwing any sense of nuance or careful judgement out of the window.

 

Regarding Battlefield V, the reveal trailer was a mess, both cinematically and thematically. I suppose they wanted to show off the diversity of multiplayer or co-op gameplay -- not sure which.

I'm totally fine with female characters in multiplayer, as Battlefield V has so many historical inaccuracies now that, frankly, female soldiers don't stand out too much. Face paint and customisation? That's where things just get ridiculous. It looks like Battlefield Heroes with better graphics. That's fine in principle, but for god sake don't market it as authentic. 

The latest trailer was a lot better, but I'm still not convinced and will probably not buy it. Battlefield Bad Company 2 was the pinnacle in my opinion, followed by Battlefield 3. Battlefield 4 had awful maps and was way too bloated (do I want a single laser sight, or triple laser sight? Do I want it in red or green? etc.). 

Battlefield V seems to follow in the footsteps of Battlefield 1, which in my opinion was just another step backwards (I mean, how many automatic weapons were there really in the trenches?)

 

I think the reaction to women in Battlefield has been extremely exaggerated, but DICE should have managed their reveal a lot better, and just went too far in the name of "freedom" and "player choice".

More choice isn't always better, and I think the facepaint in Battlefield V illustrates that quite well.

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To be honest I just find that whole kind of MP shooter gameplay boring and repetitive. Were it a serious WW2 game I probably would demand historical accuracy but it's just a silly game designed for a mainstream audience. Therefore I think its only correct that a mainstream audience is fully represented.

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  • I treat all games the same, also this. I might buy it just to see if Narvik map is accurate. I think Dice knows what their targeted marked want and give them that, and try to make it interesting for them in the long run. Like Great Battles series, it suit me less than I hoped for, but I acknowledge the fact that most people want it this way
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9 hours ago, Wolf8312 said:

To be honest I just find that whole kind of MP shooter gameplay boring and repetitive. Were it a serious WW2 game I probably would demand historical accuracy but it's just a silly game designed for a mainstream audience. Therefore I think its only correct that a mainstream audience is fully represented.

 

Yeah it must be what sells, clearly. But I miss the feel of older games with great singleplayer content and stories. The world could use a u-boat, tank, or infantry simulator that is only single player and or co-op. One day...

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5 hours ago, NETSCAPE said:

 

Yeah it must be what sells, clearly. But I miss the feel of older games with great singleplayer content and stories. The world could use a u-boat, tank, or infantry simulator that is only single player and or co-op. One day...

 

Yeah remember games like hidden and dangerous! Why cant more devs make games like that while taking advantage of all the advances in technology?

 

That said I'm not down on the game industry. I'm actually spoiled for choice, and do think its better than it ever was when I was a kid, and know that as far as games go there has never been a better time to be a kid! People of my generation really romanticize the 90's as a gaming golden age but while there were some great games there was also just as much junk.

 

And more, and more, thanks to indy developers I think serious gamers are shunning dumbed down console/PC games made for the mainstream and turning to the indy devs who value innovation and creativity while also respecting the fact that games need to present a challenge. My biggest gripe with mainstream modern titles such as GTA 5 is with how pathetically easy they are, and how you cant actually die with no limitation on the number of lives a player is given.

 

But games like battlefield are dead and buried as far as I'm concerned not beacuse they are too simple but because they are tedious and unrealistic with death being so constant that such games create no tension or fear of death. I think PUBG is fantastic for this reason, also really enjoying one called Hunt: showdown. Incredible atmosphere and graphics that are actually outdone by the sound in the game which is really just fantastic and chilling. Other games such as factorio are genuis, and well we now have flightsims in VR. So it's by no means doom and gloom just avoid the mainstream like a plague.. 

 

[CPT]milopugdog
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On 6/5/2018 at 1:41 PM, raaaid said:

i think this game is one of those weird japanese things, wwii its at its apogee

 

 

Raaaid, the Japanese have a odd fascination with adding girls to pretty much anything and everything. I mean, tanks, ships, horses, uh... girls with airplane legs that don't have underwear for whatever reason? I but I think this video is more or less a case of a weeaboo...

 

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19 hours ago, [CPT]milopugdog said:

Raaaid, the Japanese have a odd fascination with adding girls to pretty much anything and everything. I mean, tanks, ships, horses, uh... girls with airplane legs that don't have underwear for whatever reason? I but I think this video is more or less a case of a weeaboo...

 

Man I miss his videos 

[CPT]milopugdog
Posted
34 minutes ago, Field-Ops said:

Man I miss his videos 

Yeah, I miss papa Franku. Doubt the YouTube gods would be fine with anything he'd upload nowadays though. ?

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On 6/3/2018 at 4:55 AM, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

 

The social justice, intersectionality and critical theory agenda has pretty much tried to ruin everything.  The” agenda” has certainly and completely now ruined the Battlefield series of games.

The official trailer is an abhorrent mess. We have blue face painted “Soldiers” with teddy bears, Katana’s and Cricket bats as part of their accoutrement. It’s also hard not to notice Cyber-Woman leading this rag tag band of Mad Max extras into the fray. History has been dropped because it’s clearly too problematic in this modern age.

It’s the “Current year” and we now have game developers producing absolute garbage like this. It’s insulting to those veterans who fought and died in that war.

 

One can only hope that this utterly fail.

 

It won't fail. 

 

Yes, that initial trailer is complete and utter garbage. So completely awful that it deserves all the down-votes in the world. How they could go from this to that is beyond me. Is it cringey? Yes. Is it abhorrent? Yes. Does it make the game look like a cartoonish mess coupled with Fortnite? Yes. Will it stop people from buying it? No, no it won't. 

 

Now, does the gameplay look fun? It actually kinda does.

 

 

 

1PL-Husar-1Esk
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On 6/4/2018 at 9:43 PM, angus26 said:

This thread is a little messy. I think we need a cleanup on il-2. :lol:9D3E95E7-9781-449E-BCFF-A8CA4BFECC09.jpeg.0121019e19cd82608d2290cd06c4cc34.jpeg 

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GreenSocialist
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Unrealistic game-play aside, Battlefield V does have rather pretty graphics (if you turned the HUD off). I wonder if there aren't some technical techniques in there that could elevate the look of IL-2.

IL-2 is pretty, but it's mostly the cockpits that have detail. I watched some pilot footage from BF, and it looked 10 times more detailed. I know IL-2 is doing a lot more simulation in the background, but that's done by the main processor, not the graphics card. With level streaming techniques and a little tessellation displacement, wouldn't it be possible to get better looking bases, towns and mountains in IL-2?

 

 

 

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The map in the video demonstration is... TINY. No - you don't want anything like that in the IL2 series.

Notice how cockpits in the video have conveniently reduced brightness, too.

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The one thing I would like IL-2 to pick up on is the BF5 snow particle effects. Dont know how the rain will look in BF5 but that snow is top notch. 

Feathered_IV
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Definitely not my style of gameplay. 

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Gameplay looks really cool, graphic is amazing but still too bright for me, still would not touch anything EA makes with 2m long stick. Game will get some dumb dlc or whatever they will make to drain money from people and gun and run games aren't my thing anyway. Insrugency sandstorm is what i am waiting for :]

 

 

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6./ZG26_Custard
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Not to leave out the mighty clash of arms  between Sparta and Athens, Ubisoft presents......

 

"Assassin's Creed Odyssey"

 

Whisking you back to 431, BC to the Peloponnesian War. The ubisoft team have always prided themselves on the historical accuracy of their games and have spared no expense by employed a team of ancient history experts, to ensure that it will be the most accurate depiction of the clash of the mighty city-states of ancient Greece ever seen in a video game......

 

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..........No

 

 

 
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A) It's just a game. B) You can play as a man or a woman and beyond that there's no real impact. C) Women like to play games with female protagonists and don't always like to play as a guy so more $ for Ubisoft if they can tap into a wider market. Really don't see an issue. It's not a historical simulator - if it was a single sword slash could end your character and you wouldn't be able to kill several hundred people over the course of the game.

6./ZG26_5tuka
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Games have grown above their purely entertainment purpose over the last decade. Their artistic and educational values have catched up, in some cases even overtaken gameplay (a good example is any serious flight sim). Now Battlefield has taken the step of depiticng a historical setting because they know it targets a large audience of historically interested players but droped the concept of creating authentic characters, maps, missions to better reflect the theme chosen. With other words, it has absolutely 0 historical value because of the huge mess it is.

 

For someone who knows hes not buying a true WW2 title this may not seem to be an issue but for the others (including old Bf1942 veterans) this is a major concern.

 

Thankfully there are alternatives.

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6./ZG26_Custard
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9 minutes ago, Tektolnes said:

A) It's just a game. B) You can play as a man or a woman and beyond that there's no real impact. C) Women like to play games with female protagonists

A) Yep, but why use a historical setting to create "fantasy" 

B) See point A

C) See point A

 

 

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Why use a historical setting to create "fantasy"? Because people (authors, playwrights etc, etc...) have been doing this for hundreds of years, and it works.

 

Next question.

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It's a lot easier to put together a world somewhat loosely based on history than it is to come up with a complete fantasy world. It's a single player game and this really has zero impact on anything other than the amount of interest / enjoyment a section of the demographic can get out of the game. Games like this need to sell in large amounts to justify their existence so hitting a broader market makes sense financially. And it makes a game more appealing to women so that's good for them too. There's really no downside at all except that it seems to annoy certain sections of men who are unhappy that their so-called "historical" game that allows them to kill hundreds of people has a completely optional setting to play as a woman. Not really sure that's a downside though. 

6./ZG26_Custard
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9 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

Next question.

I don't remember female Spartan "warriors in the the iliad or the Odyssey, do you Andy? 

15 minutes ago, Tektolnes said:

it makes a game more appealing to women so that's good for them too.

Female empowerment in nothing new, and I can think of many female heroes that would make for interesting games, some have already been made.

 

1920's ?

 

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Probably the best example of a female hero, and she started why back in 1979.

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1991

 

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1993

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 2011

 

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2017

 

 

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The "current year"

 

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Just so I understand your general point. Are you saying that entertainment games that are set in a specific point of history must adhere to historical fact in all significant aspects or does this train of thought only apply to certain aspects such as the role of women in these games? 

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OMG! A woman with dyed hair and glasses! And she isn't smiling!! Obviously plotting to corrupt the poor innocent youth of today by forcing them to play video games where they can kill people without possessing male dangly bits!!!! Someone should call in the thought police!!!!!

 

Or maybe Custard needs to accept that game developers are selling games in the 21st century, and not a fantasy middle-class all-male minority-free 1950's.

 


 

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