G14 OMG

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

Check out the acceleration when you hit that boost!

 

Gotta say, the Erla canopy is magnificent for visibility.

 

What do you guys think so far?

[-LUCKY-ThanksSkeletor]

I am a fan for sure, i do like the look of all the blisters and the more aggressive look all together over something like the K4. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

It's pretty cool I think. The G-14 sets itself apart from the earlier models in quite a few ways and we're finally at the point where we can really experience most of the Bf109s wartime development from E-7 through to K-4. Go fly the E-7 back-to-back with this latest G-14 version and just check out how similar yet different they are

 

Generally speaking the handling is familiar but that 100% throttle with boost gives a heck of a kick. Awesome!

 

[novicebutdeadly]

[Voidhunger]

It's absolutely wonderful bird. I was quite surprised how good it is in this sim. (Against AI) I tried it right after I downloaded the update against 4 veteran spits and due to the old bug I was fighting alone( my 3 mates was on the runway) and result was 3 spits down and one heading home.

The sound of the engine when you push the throttle to engage mw50 is magnificent (its a shame its not heard from the outside )Iand the Erla canopy is outstanding. Also the MK108 is killer.

I really like the look of these late 109's

 

Edited May 25, 2018 by Voidhunger

[HagarTheHorrible]

I was looking up details on the G14, one of the pages that popped up was the WarThunder Wiki page.  It seemed to provide a good summary, pro's and con's.

 

How relevant is it to using and operating the G14 in BoX ?

[RaFiGer]

@Voidhunger

 

I can copy that 100%

The Messerschmitt is a true fighter despite ist flaws.

I like also the way pilots which had flown the planes like Mark Hanna and Eric Brown stated in their Reviews

 

Mark Hanna and Eric Brown about flying the Bf-109

 

BTW:

I had the fantastic oportunity to take seat and practise in while in Cockpits of a Bf-109 G2, and Fw-190-A8 and Spitfire Mark IX, WHAT a difference!!!

In the Messerschmitt you really have actually no space like the comment in the document, you sit in a race car. More confortable and open is the Cockpit of the Focke wulf 190 A8 but the Spitfire is even a way better even with the ERLA Hood installed on the Bf-109

Edited May 25, 2018 by RaFiGer

[150GCT_Veltro]

A nice pic of an italian G-14, North Italy. Nice addition but i still REALLY hope for G-10 DLC too.

 

[Soilworker]

Only had a chance to take it out for a quick spin but man! What a rocket! 1.7ata *drools*

[ITAF_Rani]

Nice bird...love it !!

[Voidhunger]

2 hours ago, 150GCT_Veltro said:

A nice pic of an italian G-14, North Italy. Nice addition but i still REALLY hope for G-10 DLC too.

 

 

Hmmm I think they will save G-10 for another BOX game. Maybe late eastern front.

Maybe if they move to Pacific, they will release some dlc planes like G-10, Yak-3, La7 etc. If there will be no Pacific right after Bobp they will need some new planes for the new game.

Edited May 25, 2018 by Voidhunger

[Custard]

1 minute ago, Voidhunger said:

 

Hmmm I think they will save G-10 for another BOX game. Maybe late eastern front.

 

It would make sense tbh, we're running out of 109s to fill battles with the Luftwaffe in.

[Haza]

I like the fact that you can jettison the rocket launchers post firing! Nice detail.

 

Regards

[ATAG_Flare]

I still haven't been able to beat the AI Spitfire with this thing but it does fly nicely. The 13mm guns are quite good, I tried taking down a peshka without using the cannons and did it quite easily.

 

Still not my favourite 109, the E-7 or F-4 will take that honour. But this one is pretty darn fun as well. Good skins as well.

[Voidhunger]

27 minutes ago, ATAG_Flare said:

I still haven't been able to beat the AI Spitfire with this thing but it does fly nicely. The 13mm guns are quite good, I tried taking down a peshka without using the cannons and did it quite easily.

 

Still not my favourite 109, the E-7 or F-4 will take that honour. But this one is pretty darn fun as well. Good skins as well.

 

Hmmm for me its a challenge to fight MK.V spits (they turn so tight) with G2,G4 .With G6 its little easier.

but G-14 is a beast(with MW50) In 4x G-14 vs 4x veteran spits IX scenario, spits are slaughtered every time.

At first fight after update I was alone against 4 veteran spits IX and 3 went down and the last one was damaged.

[PainGod85]

46 minutes ago, ATAG_Flare said:

I still haven't been able to beat the AI Spitfire with this thing but it does fly nicely. The 13mm guns are quite good, I tried taking down a peshka without using the cannons and did it quite easily.

 

Still not my favourite 109, the E-7 or F-4 will take that honour. But this one is pretty darn fun as well. Good skins as well.

 

How do you manage to lose against even ace AI Spit IXs in the G-14?

 

I'm not trying to belittle you, but even the first time I fought against them, I just immediately throttled up, merged and did a vertical reversal.

Granted, a human pilot would probably have gone vertical as well instead of going into a level turn followed by a zoom climb like the AI did. but I don't think it has the power to stick with a 1.7 ATA 109 cranking it.

[MicEzo]

I've noticed there is an option to lean down your gunsight in G14. The new key command appeared in key assign menu. I'm wondering if it will be possible in previous planes which are already in the game.

[LukeFF]

5 minutes ago, MicEzo said:

I've noticed there is an option to lean down your gunsight in G14. The new key command appeared in key assign menu. I'm wondering if it will be possible in previous planes which are already in the game.

 

What command? There's the command to fold the gunsight out of the way, but that wouldn't work with older 109s.

[Blitzen]

Im away from my pc- has there been an update with this plane included? I cant find the announcement.   

[Voidhunger]

17 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Im away from my pc- has there been an update with this plane included? I cant find the announcement.   

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/36830-game-version-3003-discussion-battle-of-bodenplatte-early-access/

 

 

 

 

btw what vvs planes what we have can meet G-14?

La5FN? (probably later series) Yak 1b? or Yak 7b?

Edited May 25, 2018 by Voidhunger

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

The La-5FN and Yak-1B were in service in mid-1944 as well so they are historically plausible adversaries for the G-14.

[-TBC-AeroAce]

15 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

 

btw what vvs planes what we have can meet G-14?

La5FN? (probably later series) Yak 1b? or Yak 7b?

 

That is a good point. It will be interesting to see how MP servers use or do not use the BOBP aircraft until we have the correct map.

Edited May 25, 2018 by AeroAce

[Voidhunger]

4 minutes ago, -=PHX=-SuperEtendard said:

The La-5FN and Yak-1B were in service in mid-1944 as well so they are historically plausible adversaries for the G-14.

 

Thanks

[Pierre64]

 

51 minutes ago, MicEzo said:

I've noticed there is an option to lean down your gunsight in G14. The new key command appeared in key assign menu. I'm wondering if it will be possible in previous planes which are already in the game.

Only the new Revi 16B had this specificity. The default key is RAlt+F

[Frenchy56]

Wait, so does that mean there's no sight dimmer?

[Godspeed]

Hey guys how you activate boost on G16 it does not work on my key bindings from this place for some reason?

[-SF-Disarray]

I think it is just full throttle to boost. I was playing with it earlier and found that, flat out, it will catch an FN on the deck. So that's a thing.

[Godspeed]

Alright thanks

[LukeFF]

20 minutes ago, Frenchy56 said:

Wait, so does that mean there's no sight dimmer?

 

Of course there is, but a couple of associated keybindings have changed.

[ATAG_Flare]

4 hours ago, PainGod85 said:

 

How do you manage to lose against even ace AI Spit IXs in the G-14?

 

I'm not trying to belittle you, but even the first time I fought against them, I just immediately throttled up, merged and did a vertical reversal.

Granted, a human pilot would probably have gone vertical as well instead of going into a level turn followed by a zoom climb like the AI did. but I don't think it has the power to stick with a 1.7 ATA 109 cranking it.

 

Yeah, I confuse myself as well. Perhaps it's my flying style? Every time when I fly Spitfire (Merlin 66, wings clipped or non clipped) vs Veteran AI 109 G-14 I have been able to shoot the 109 down. However every time when I have flown as the 109 I have gotten myself shot down. The Spit can just always turn away from my gun sight whether it's in the vertical or horizontal, and I can't seem to be able to climb away from them.

 

EDIT: I've been only using emergency power rarely on the 109 (for short bursts of a few seconds only in a climb usually), should I be using it more and would that help me take out the Spits? I'm quite confused about why I can very easily shoot down G-14s for days with the Spit (on combat power even for the most part) but in the higher performing 109 I can't bring down the Spitfire.

Edited May 25, 2018 by ATAG_Flare

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

1 hour ago, ATAG_Flare said:

 

Yeah, I confuse myself as well. Perhaps it's my flying style? Every time when I fly Spitfire (Merlin 66, wings clipped or non clipped) vs Veteran AI 109 G-14 I have been able to shoot the 109 down. However every time when I have flown as the 109 I have gotten myself shot down. The Spit can just always turn away from my gun sight whether it's in the vertical or horizontal, and I can't seem to be able to climb away from them.

 

EDIT: I've been only using emergency power rarely on the 109 (for short bursts of a few seconds only in a climb usually), should I be using it more and would that help me take out the Spits? I'm quite confused about why I can very easily shoot down G-14s for days with the Spit (on combat power even for the most part) but in the higher performing 109 I can't bring down the Spitfire.

G-14 is not like the previous 109s where you have to baby WEP, you can gun it for extended periods of time.

[InProgress]

Like a week for paycheck and bobp is mine.. I must try these rockets in 109 :o it looks really cool and they look quite big, must be some nice destruction :) 

[PainGod85]

1 hour ago, ATAG_Flare said:

 

Yeah, I confuse myself as well. Perhaps it's my flying style? Every time when I fly Spitfire (Merlin 66, wings clipped or non clipped) vs Veteran AI 109 G-14 I have been able to shoot the 109 down. However every time when I have flown as the 109 I have gotten myself shot down. The Spit can just always turn away from my gun sight whether it's in the vertical or horizontal, and I can't seem to be able to climb away from them.

 

EDIT: I've been only using emergency power rarely on the 109 (for short bursts of a few seconds only in a climb usually), should I be using it more and would that help me take out the Spits? I'm quite confused about why I can very easily shoot down G-14s for days with the Spit (on combat power even for the most part) but in the higher performing 109 I can't bring down the Spitfire.

 

The G-14 makes use of ADI. This means you can use maximum boost for up to ten minutes before the manual says you should throttle back for five minutes. After this time has passed, you're set for another ten minutes of maximum power. You have enough ADI in your tank to last 30 minutes.

[ATAG_Flare]

1 hour ago, PainGod85 said:

 

The G-14 makes use of ADI. This means you can use maximum boost for up to ten minutes before the manual says you should throttle back for five minutes. After this time has passed, you're set for another ten minutes of maximum power. You have enough ADI in your tank to last 30 minutes.

 

Thanks! Should have read the manual first, I guess. Doh! I'll try again using the WEP more and see how it performs, maybe I can kill a Spit finally!

Well, still can't do it. Tried twice again now, making maximum use of emergency power and still have yet to even get a chance to pull the trigger against the Spitty. Do I just suck? I don't think so as I can win as the Spitty every time.

[ShamrockOneFive]

3 hours ago, ATAG_Flare said:

 

Thanks! Should have read the manual first, I guess. Doh! I'll try again using the WEP more and see how it performs, maybe I can kill a Spit finally!

Well, still can't do it. Tried twice again now, making maximum use of emergency power and still have yet to even get a chance to pull the trigger against the Spitty. Do I just suck? I don't think so as I can win as the Spitty every time.

 

QMB? If so... Climb and gain position above before swooping in for the attack.

[ATAG_Flare]

41 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

QMB? If so... Climb and gain position above before swooping in for the attack.

 

Well I've been able to win a few times now. I think the boost really helps and I have just been getting the hang of the 109. You have to be gentler than you do with the Spitty but I've found that if you need it to it will turn tight as well. Still think the Spit is a lot easier to win as though.

[novicebutdeadly]

4 hours ago, ATAG_Flare said:

 

Thanks! Should have read the manual first, I guess. Doh! I'll try again using the WEP more and see how it performs, maybe I can kill a Spit finally!

Well, still can't do it. Tried twice again now, making maximum use of emergency power and still have yet to even get a chance to pull the trigger against the Spitty. Do I just suck? I don't think so as I can win as the Spitty every time.

I can only vouch for QMB,

in the 1 V 1 encounter there are a few things you can do, if you have excess speed/alt you can turn with a Spit, once you start to fall behind, roll out of the turn and extend away, then turn back against them.

The separation will allow to you not be in such a knife fight (continuous turn), but a more dynamic engagement, where the combat can be more 3 dimensional. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

7 minutes ago, ATAG_Flare said:

 

Well I've been able to win a few times now. I think the boost really helps and I have just been getting the hang of the 109. You have to be gentler than you do with the Spitty but I've found that if you need it to it will turn tight as well. Still think the Spit is a lot easier to win as though.

 

It's interesting because my impression of the Bf109 is that I can really treat it roughly and it still seems to be fine whereas the Spitfire is beautifully sensitive and it just kind of does what I want it to do.

 

I've flown the Bf109 a lot recently so perhaps that helps. They both need different approaches to flying and fighting which is probably what you're getting used to and maybe the Spitfire is just more your style.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

8 hours ago, RoflSeal said:

G-14 is not like the previous 109s where you have to baby WEP, you can gun it for extended periods of time.

 

Just to clarify, you can gun it at  full throttle (or very close to) for extended periods of time (with MW50 injection), if you back off to the point that you are still in emergency power but MW50 injection isn't occurring you will still destroy that engine in 1 minute.

[Fritz_X]

The G-14 has been my favorite version of the 109 in the classic IL2, along with the G-10. What I've seen so far of the new addition immediately remembered me why.

 

The plane is fast, has great all around visibility (for a 109, at least) and packs a punch with its' twin 13mm MGs. I prefer taking it out for a spin with the standard 20mm cannon setup, which goes really well with the MGs. Ultimately this most likely will be the reason why I'm gonna be prefering it over the K-4, which only comes with the MK-108 30mm cannon.

 

Maybe we are lucky to get a G-10 as well someday, either as a collectors plane or as a part of another, maybe late war Eastern front expansion. Closer to the K-4, but with an option for a 20mm cannon.

 

The only small gripe I currently have with the G-14 is a small part of the textures of the cockpit. I really feel like the 'holes' on the insides along the frame of the cockpit ceiling look rather unconvincing. They seem to be simply painted onto the frame, giving it a rather unrealistic look on my end. Maybe this happens just on my setup or because I am using the wrong settings, but I already have set the texture quality to the max.

 

Has anyone else the feeling that this part of the cockpit texture could use a little make-over, or am I just being nit-picky here?

 

Anyway, another awesome job by the developers. They never fail to impress.

 

Ps.: The Spitfire Mk.IX even tops the G-14. But this is just me preferring Soviet and Allied planes in general.

Edited May 26, 2018 by Fritz_X