VR headset

[D_Konig]

Im in the middle of talking to their support staff, I assume I'll be here all afternoon or longer. 

The USB card I got passed their compatibility check and the staff doesn't think it's an issue so who the hell knows at this point. 

[Guest deleted@134347]

Just stopped by to say good luck! We're all counting on you.

[D_Konig]

lol I successfully got the software installed - but then it didn't recognize the sensor. Windows did, on every port I plugged it into but not the oculus software. I read the fix is to re-install the software so I tried to launch the repair tool which failed, and now im back where I was a few hours ago.

 

This is the most fun I've had since Kandahar, I have to say.

 

Urge to kill, rising.

 

 

[D_Konig]

Still no luck. 3 days and 17 hours later - I might as well have a full time job. 

[dburne]

If your system is ok on the requirements and sounds like it is, it should certainly work and not be this much trouble to set up.

 

I believe you mentioned you purchased a refurbished Rift, you know it might just be defective.

 

How far do you get in the setup process, if you do at all?

[variable]

Konig, sorry to hear that it's going shitty.  I can't be of much help other than that VR is well worth it.  I didn't face any of these issues getting it up and running though.  How many USB 3.0 ports do you have?  The min specs say you only need 1 USB 3.0 port and 2x USB 2.0 ports but the hardware setup guide has you plug both the Headset and Sensor each into their own USB 3.0 port.

 

As a fellow parent of a toddler with a 20% rating...uh...hit me up on Sherrif's discord if you need a VR wingman.

[D_Konig]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

If your system is ok on the requirements and sounds like it is, it should certainly work and not be this much trouble to set up.

 

I believe you mentioned you purchased a refurbished Rift, you know it might just be defective.

 

How far do you get in the setup process, if you do at all?

 

It's not the equipment, I can't even get the fucking software to install.

 

Ive tried about 40x now under every configuration you can imagine. It worked once, for reasons unknown and the set up glitched out and wouldn't recognize the sensor even though windows did. They told me to re-install the software, and im back to square 1 again where I can't get it to install.

 

Im seriously ready to just set fire to a hospital.

1 hour ago, variable said:

Konig, sorry to hear that it's going shitty.  I can't be of much help other than that VR is well worth it.  I didn't face any of these issues getting it up and running though.  How many USB 3.0 ports do you have?  The min specs say you only need 1 USB 3.0 port and 2x USB 2.0 ports but the hardware setup guide has you plug both the Headset and Sensor each into their own USB 3.0 port.

 

As a fellow parent of a toddler with a 20% rating...uh...hit me up on Sherrif's discord if you need a VR wingman.

 

I have four 3.0 ports, another 4 2.0 ports and a hub with an extra 4 on top of that. I plugged the sensor into every one, windows recognized it every time but the software didn't. 

 

This is definitely the most frustrating thing I've dealt with in recent memory. If I have to sit through the oculus downloading screen 5 more times, I'm going to cut my own eyes out with a nail clipper.

 

If anyone asks, BUY A VIVE. 

 

This is beyond outrageous, im coming up on 19 hours now of troubleshooting over the last 3 days.

Edited May 18, 2018 by D_Konig

[D_Konig]

Okay, so 19 hours and 3 days later I finally got the damn thing to work and now Im out of time and have to get to the gym lol does anyone have any setup/guides/tutorials other the ones posted earlier on things I should do? 

What a massive pain that was, holy F lol

[BeastyBaiter]

My install on windows 10 went as follows:

1) Turn off computer

2) Plug in 2 sensors and headset

3) Turn on computer

4) install software

5) setup guardian system

6) play games

[D_Konig]

1 hour ago, BeastyBaiter said:

My install on windows 10 went as follows:

1) Turn off computer

2) Plug in 2 sensors and headset

3) Turn on computer

4) install software

5) setup guardian system

6) play games

 

Im not sure if I should congratulate you on your luck or hate your guts lol

[chiliwili69]

I am glad to know you finally get it. Your kids should be proud of you.

 

If I were you, I would start with some easy demos or seated games (with game pad). BTW, if you have the chance to acquire the Touch they are worth the money, not for IL-2 but for other games and demos.

 

For seated experience go to:

 

Apollo 11 VR

Titans of space

Allumette

 

When you try IL-2 for first time, it is better to try to go for 90fps and sacrify some graphics quality. So, go for LOW or BALANCED graphics Settings and some moderate supersampling (150% in SteamVR). What are your PC specs?

[D_Konig]

I have 32g ram, geforce gtx1080.

 

I didnt touch the settings at all, I flew 2 missions. There was some slowdown though under 30fps which was distracting and probly gave me some nausea lol I'll fiddle with it later.

 

Has there been any way to sharpen the image at all, or is that it? Its pretty amazing but hard to see much at distance.

 

Was a crazy feeling being IN a 109 cockpit though. I didnt expect how real that felt.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

2 hours ago, D_Konig said:

Was a crazy feeling being IN a 109 cockpit though. I didnt expect how real that felt.

 

This right here is why even though the resolution is shit, most of us can't go back.

[chiliwili69]

3 hours ago, D_Konig said:

I have 32g ram, geforce gtx1080.

 

I didnt touch the settings at all, I flew 2 missions. There was some slowdown though under 30fps which was distracting and probly gave me some nausea lol I'll fiddle with it later.

 

Has there been any way to sharpen the image at all, or is that it? Its pretty amazing but hard to see much at distance.

You GPU is quite right. About the RAM, the important thing is the speed, not size. Above 8GB you are quite OK.

 

But the most important item for IL-2 VR is the CPU and how you overclock it.

 

There is a long thread (https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/29322-measuring-rig-performance-common-baseline-for-il-2-v3/) that you don´t need to read now, maybe after some weeks when you would want to squeeze your PC as much as possible. Bottom line is to have a CPU with good single-thread performance, which is translated to reach the a good speed in your CPU (good is above 4.4 GHz).

 

You should never be below 45fps, otherwise you will get sick pretty fast.

 

Regarding blurriness, the SS factor helps:

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/30771-how-much-ss-is-desirable-image-quality-samples/

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/31307-how-ss-decreases-your-fps-testing-results/

 

[D_Konig]

Yeah I did start getting queezy after a while and needed a break. The FPS was anywhere from 50 to 23 i think at lowest, I clearly need to do some tweaking.

 

I have a gtx1080 but my CPU is 4+ years old. 

 

The supersampling options look good, it was still playable as it but even ny flight of 109s were blurry and hard to tell what they were at even only a few hundred meters away (maybe 800 to 1km)  if I had to guess.

[dburne]

Disabling ASW also helps on blurriness as things fly by, however also need to be able to maintain a min of 45 fps, below that it will look pretty rough.

[BeastyBaiter]

Yeah, you're going to need to play with settings a bit, 4.5 GHz should be enough for 45 fps minimums though (I had a locked 45 fps with Ryzen 1600x at 4.0 GHz). The settings I use for career missions with the 1080 ti are:

Pixel Density = 1.3

Preset = High

AA = 2x

Clouds = high

Shadows = medium

Mirrors = off

Everything else: normal

 

I get mostly 90 fps with my system with 45 fps minimums (sometimes CPU, sometimes GPU bottleneck). You'll need to drop something to hold 45 fps with the 1080. The most obvious place is the pixel density but it starts getting hard to read stuff below 1.3. Dropping AA to off or reducing cloud detail makes planes vanish against clouds at most ranges, so those two settings cannot be changed if you want to actually play the game.

[Guest deleted@134347]

welcome to the club, man.   Sharpness = good luck Performance? = good luck.. pretty much anything in VR is = good luck!

 

[chiliwili69]

19 hours ago, D_Konig said:

but my CPU is 4+ years old.

 

How old your CPU is not much important. The important thing is how well you can OC.

For example, the 4790k is an old CPU but it allows to OC to 4.9 with good cooling.

Since IL-2 does not benefit from modern CPU with many cores (IL-2 uses basically 4 threads, being one of the the heavy one), so above 4 cores there is no increased performance.

 

What is your CPU?

if you download the free CPU-Z tool (https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html) you will be able to see your many details of your system. (CPU model, CPU clock speed, RAM speed, etc)

[D_Konig]

Yeah my CPU is only 3.5 ghz

 

I can still get away with 30+ fps on mostly high-ultra settings though. Dips under 30 sometimes but it really doesn't bother me that much, so far anyway. I've never tried to overclock it at all, I don't have any kind of custom cooling setup just the regular few fans that are in there. How much of a pain is it to install a new one ? It looks like id rather just pay someone to do it if its even possible to upgrade with this motherboard.

 

Maybe down the road, I don't /need/ a newer processor just yet.

 

Its an i7-3770K ivy bridge. It might be 5 years old actually.

 

I've been playing with the supersampling vs AA options and stuff trying to find the best mix of visuals and performance. So far I think supersampling at 0 and AA maxed out seems to look and play better than the other way around. With no AA on I found the jaggedness distracting and was kind of making me sick actually.

Edited May 20, 2018 by D_Konig

[dburne]

2 minutes ago, D_Konig said:

Yeah my CPU is only 3.5 ghz

 

I can still get away with 30+ fps on mostly high-ultra settings though. Dips under 30 sometimes but it really doesn't bother me that much, so far anyway. I've never tried to overclock it at all, I don't have any kind of custom cooling setup just the regular few fans that are in there. How much of a pain is it to install a new one ? It looks like id rather just pay someone to do it if its even possible to upgrade with this motherboard.

 

Maybe down the road, I don't /need/ a newer processor just yet.

 

Its an i7-3770K ivy bridge. It might be 5 years old actually.

 

I've been playing with the supersampling vs AA options and stuff trying to find the best mix of visuals and performance. So far I think supersampling at 0 and AA maxed out seems to look and play better than the other way around. With no AA on I found the jaggedness distracting and was kind of making me sick actually.

 

Yeah I am the same, I will take AA over SS any day.

I am running 140% SS in Steam VR and 4x AA, but my processor is running at 4.5 GHz.

[D_Konig]

1 minute ago, dburne said:

 

Yeah I am the same, I will take AA over SS any day.

I am running 140% SS in Steam VR and 4x AA, but my processor is running at 4.5 GHz.

 

I even cranked SS up to like 450% just to see what it looked like. I was running at like 12fps lol but it didn't look that much better than 185% where it was at default to be honest. Im going to drop it to 150% and max out AA next and see what that's like.

 

The last mission I flew was fine but it was tough to tell what things were even at a fairly close distance. I couldn't tell if I was chasing a yak or a 109 until I got pretty close and it turned out to be neither lol Hard to tell colors as well until you're really close, which is kind of a disadvantage haha

[Guest deleted@134347]

41 minutes ago, D_Konig said:

 

I even cranked SS up to like 450% just to see what it looked like. I was running at like 12fps lol but it didn't look that much better than 185% where it was at default to be honest. Im going to drop it to 150% and max out AA next and see what that's like.

 

The last mission I flew was fine but it was tough to tell what things were even at a fairly close distance. I couldn't tell if I was chasing a yak or a 109 until I got pretty close and it turned out to be neither lol Hard to tell colors as well until you're really close, which is kind of a disadvantage haha

 

says here you can oc it to ~4.7ghz, which is a sweet spot for the IL2

https://rog.asus.com/articles/overclocking/overclocking-guide-4-7ghz-core-i7-3770k-on-the-maximus-v-formula/

 

also, as far as the graphics:

• make sure ASW is ON
• get the 3dmigoto mod (look in VR section of this forum).  With the mod you can:

1. turn off the propeller disc to get rid of the ASW artifacts in your gun sight
2. add x5 and x10 zoom which will help you ID the aircraft much much easier..

• fly on High graphics (not ultra)
• SS set to 1.3-1.4 in oculus  (leave steam at 0 or 100%)
• AA set to x4 in game
• dynamic resolution set to 0.9
• shadows - low/mid
• when flying turn off the HUD in game. It'll boost your FPS dramatically. Assign it to the joystick button so you can toggle it quickly when needed (icons/waypoints/gps)

 

mileage varies with the above settings.   You'll get a dozen of similar-yet-slightly-different configs from every VR player here. Just try them out all and figure out which one works best for your system/personal preferences.

 

[D_Konig]

I'm working on it now. Anything past 4.4ghz OC it just crashes and reboots for some reason. Not enough voltage maybe, I don't know. The last time I overclocked anything or did anything like this I think it was 1999 and I was like 15 lol

 

- Not sure was ASW is

- I read about the 3dmigoto mod. Theres definitely a FPS drop when looking straight ahead, likely because of the prop stuff but isn't that realistic ? Or are guys just modding it out for gameplay reasons ?

- A zoom would help lol ill check it out.

 

I'll check the oculus SS options, I didn't know there was any in oculus home. What do you mean turn off the hud? You mean those messages that come up like flaps or engine damaged etc on the right hand side? I fly everything in full realism other than those I guess. Actually I do cheat and have my plane icon on the map so I can tell where I'm going until I get really familiar with the map lol... IM A FRAUD!!  

 

Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it. Great community ! What games used to be like before..... well... you know what its like out there now. Like on the steam forums. I just don't go there anymore. My brain can't handle any more strokes lol

[Guest deleted@134347]

8 minutes ago, D_Konig said:

I'm working on it now. Anything past 4.4ghz OC it just crashes and reboots for some reason. Not enough voltage maybe, I don't know. The last time I overclocked anything or did anything like this I think it was 1999 and I was like 15 lol

 

- Not sure was ASW is

- I read about the 3dmigoto mod. Theres definitely a FPS drop when looking straight ahead, likely because of the prop stuff but isn't that realistic ? Or are guys just modding it out for gameplay reasons ?

- A zoom would help lol ill check it out.

 

 

- AWS is a feature in Oculus, asynchronous spacewarp. During drastic frame drops (gpu or cpu related) It injects fake frames by offsetting and duplicating previous frames therefore creating a more fluid visual and should technically maintain 45fps at a minimum. It works very well when u get drop outs down to ~30fps, you still see 45fps, a bit blurry, but it's not flashing/stuttering and completely fluid. But it gets worse when the qty of fake frames increases as it turns in to a fluid mud.

- AWS is controlled either via oculus sdk debug tool, keyboard commands (forgot which ones) or via Oculus Tray tool (3rd party app), you can get it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/5okoju/oculus_tray_tool/

-  3dmigoto will give you zoom you need.

-  turning off the propeller disc in game is useful when AWS kicks in during frame drops and the gunsight+propdisc turns in to a skewed mess. If you turn off the disc you can use AWS as always ON and you won't get any artifacts.

- HUD is the Il2 overlay that shows you technochat messages, heading, radio messages while in cockpit. This hud overlay reduces your fps by 10-15 frames/second. If you want high fps - turn hud off completely, and only turn it on when u need to...

 

 

[D_Konig]

Got it up to 4.2ghz with no issues - significant FPS increase though. Holds steady over 45 with some drops to 30-35. Core temp looks okay, I might try again with 4.4 ghz but I don't want to push it, my mechanical fans aren't the best lol.

 

Where do I adjust "ASW" or whatever that is ?

How do I key map the zoom options from that mod ? Are they just the standard zoom and reset zoom key bindings in the game ?

Dynamic resolution is adjusted where?

 

Sorry for all the questions lol thanks guys

 

[Guest deleted@134347]

3 minutes ago, D_Konig said:

 

 

Where do I adjust "ASW" or whatever that is ?

How do I key map the zoom options from that mod ? Are they just the standard zoom and reset zoom key bindings in the game ?

Dynamic resolution is adjusted where?

 

 

-  get oculus tray tool (see url above), it has AWS adjustments

 

-  in 3dmigoto mod there's a file d3dx.ini - it has all the necessary bindings:

......

[Key3]
;set med zoom on
Key = ALT no_shift no_ctrl VK_RIGHT
type = hold
; modify here the first value you want to use for zoom increase
w = 5.0
; Pimax 4K settings
; y6 = -0.3
; x7 = 0.0
; y7 = 0.0

; Vive settings from Wraithzlt see https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/30556-3dmigoto-mod-for-vr/?do=findComment&comment=584348
; Warning, this may not work with 3.0.2
; x6 = 0.525
; y6 = 0.525
; x7 = -0.15
; y7 = 0.05

; Rift settings from -[HRAF]Black_Sab see https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/30556-3dmigoto-mod-for-vr/?do=findComment&comment=589545
; Warning, this may not work with 3.0.2
y6 = 0.6
x7 = -0.15
y7 = -0.425

......

The stuff in Bold is the binding, i.e.  alt + right-arrow (cursor button). Obviously you'd want to assign this combination to a joystick button, so you Joy2Key program to map Alt+rightarrow  to a joystick button. 3dmigoto mod doesn't support joystick buttons otherwise.

 

-  dymaic resolutions is inside Graphics options in Il2 game. It's a at the bottom of the grpahics page.

 

 

[D_Konig]

If I could buy you some beers, I would lol

[dburne]

I too use the Oculus Tray Tool with a profile set for BoS to turn ASW off.

 

You can also do it on the fly with ctrl+Numpad 1.

 

I use the Tray Tool for setting ASW off, changing audio to Rift Headset, and have it set to audio confirmation so I know a profile is being applied when game launches. Good for setting SS as well, if not using the settings in Steam VR.

 

I really do not understand why Oculus does not make it easy and include those types of settings in the regular software, rather than their debug tool which is not real user friendly. Thank goodness for the guy that developed the Oculus Tray Tool.

Edited May 20, 2018 by dburne

[variable]

On 5/18/2018 at 3:32 PM, D_Konig said:

Okay, so 19 hours and 3 days later I finally got the damn thing to work and now Im out of time and have to get to the gym lol does anyone have any setup/guides/tutorials other the ones posted earlier on things I should do? 

What a massive pain that was, holy F lol

 

Disabling ASW is a must.

 

I highly recommend the Migoto mod for proper zoom in VR.  It also increases the brightness of the reticle (which you may or may not like) but also disables it in the left eye by default.  I don't like this since I'm left eye dominant so I had to edit the mod's ini file.

[D_Konig]

8 minutes ago, variable said:

 

Disabling ASW is a must.

 

I highly recommend the Migoto mod for proper zoom in VR.  It also increases the brightness of the reticle (which you may or may not like) but also disables it in the left eye by default.  I don't like this since I'm left eye dominant so I had to edit the mod's ini file.

 

I have found disabling ASW made a huge FPS difference. Closing the Hud made about 5-7 FPS. So far I like the mod, I havnt bound the zoom keys just yet - still tinkering to get the best visual+performance ratio I can.

 

I like the brighter gunsight fine and I shoot with both eyes open anyway lol

[chiliwili69]

16 hours ago, D_Konig said:

I've never tried to overclock it at all, I don't have any kind of custom cooling setup just the regular few fans that are in there. How much of a pain is it to install a new one ? It looks like id rather just pay someone to do it if its even possible to upgrade with this motherboard.

 

Maybe down the road, I don't /need/ a newer processor just yet.

 

Its an i7-3770K ivy bridge. It might be 5 years old actually.

 

That CPU can be overclocked nicely. There are some test people reported, look at this tables: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJmnz_nVxI6_dG_UYNCCpZVK2-f8NBy-y1gia77Hu_k

 

In "Monitor 2.0" tab, TUS_Samuel was OC that CPU until 5.3 GHz, achieving very good results in monitor.

In "Samuel 3.0" tab, Neithari was achieving with 4.6 OC a better performance with the 3770K than with the new Ryzen 2700X

 

So, you don´t need to change your CPU for the time being. If you want to improve your fps you should try first to do some moderate OC.

One year ago I didn´t do any OC at all, so I learnt and people in this forum helped me (thanks to all).

This is reported here: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/29881-overclocking-a-4790k-for-better-bos-performance/

 

 

You CPU run at 3.5 GHz and 3.9 with Turbo (this is not considered OC).

To go to 4.4 and beyond you will need a better CPU cooler (80-140$). You can choose air cooler or All-in-One (AIO) liquid cooling. If you have enough space in your PC case you can go to a large CPU cooler with dual fans (like Noctua NH-D15 or similar). Otherwise you can go to a 280mm AIO liquid cooling like I did, no problems so far.

 

What is your RAM speed? (if it is below 1800MHz it will reduce your performance a bit).

 

 

[D_Konig]

Not sure of the ram speed but they are as old as the processor as well. It's 32gb DDR3. 

 

I OC'd it to 4.2ghz so far with seemingly no issues but I might have a power draw. I had a crash where the rift just stopped abruptly and my mouse was off as well at the same time. I've had issues with that since I've had this machine though, where the mouse will just lose power for whatever reason. It's not the power supply its more than enough so I dunno what the issue is.

 

If it keeps happening though I'll assume the overclocking is drawing more power than is available after all the stuff plugged in (rift, pedals, hotas, USB hub, mouse, keyboard, speakers etc) theres a lot of shit plugged in back there lol

 

It ran so well for so long I've never needed to adjust anything except upgrade the video card earlier this year from a 780 to a 1080. It might be worth getting that extra cooling system though, $150 isn't too expensive if I can get a significant performance boost. This whole VR thing is a totally different animal haha. I can't believe how far technology has come in 10 years. In 10 more itll be indistinguishable from reality 

Edited May 21, 2018 by D_Konig

[chiliwili69]

6 hours ago, D_Konig said:

Not sure of the ram speed

 

To know your actual RAM speed, use CPU-Z, in Memory tab, look at DRAM Frequency and multiple that DRAM by two.

 

The 1080 card, the rift, the Overclock and all the other devices can be bottlenecked by your power supply unit. I only had problems with that too and I replaced the power unit by a 850W unit with 70A supply for the GPU power cable.

 

7 hours ago, D_Konig said:

This whole VR thing is a totally different animal haha. I can't believe how far technology has come in 10 years. In 10 more itll be indistinguishable from reality 

 

Yes it is like that. Absolutely nobody knows what we could have in 10 years.

In October-2016 Michael Abrash was making a 5 year prediction (so 2021)

 

 

it seems he might shoting short...

https://www.vrandfun.com/oculus-chief-scientist-michael-abrash-believes-vr-making-faster-progress-first-predicted/

 

 

[-332FG-Gordon200]

On 5/20/2018 at 12:13 PM, moosya said:

Obviously you'd want to assign this combination to a joystick button, so you Joy2Key program to map Alt+rightarrow  to a joystick button.

How do I assign Alt and right arrow to a single joystick button?

I've downloaded the joytokey program and have been going through all the options and commands. I've watched a half dozen poorly produced youtube videos and every instruction is for mapping one key stroke to a button not multiple keys.

[Tomi_099]

Maybe you try it ..
so you can do more than you think.
It is free to command up to a certain number ..
Try it you will be amazed! 

https://voiceattack.com/

[Guest deleted@134347]

13 hours ago, Gordon200 said:

How do I assign Alt and right arrow to a single joystick button?

I've downloaded the joytokey program and have been going through all the options and commands. I've watched a half dozen poorly produced youtube videos and every instruction is for mapping one key stroke to a button not multiple keys.

 

• open a Joy2key
• press a button on the joystick you want to assign the combination to. The button in joy2key will 'flash' so you know which one it is
• double click the button to edit it
• there's 4 lines for assignment. They follow top to bottom approach, i.e. you can technically have a "4 button pressed" assignment in it.
• Click in top line/row with your mouse and then press Alt. You'll see ALT will be displayed there
• click on second line/row, then press Right Arrow, it'll display a little arrow in it I think..
• These 2 rows create a 'combination' or simultaneous press of 2 buttons.
• Save..

 

 

 

Edited May 22, 2018 by moosya

[dburne]

16 minutes ago, moosya said:

 

• open a Joy2key
• press a button on the joystick you want to assign the combination to. The button in joy2key will 'flash' so you know which one it is
• double click the button to edit it
• there's 4 lines for assignment. They follow top to bottom approach, i.e. you can technically have a "4 button pressed" assignment in it.
• Click in top line/row with your mouse and then press Alt. You'll see ALT will be displayed there
• click on second line/row, then press Right Arrow, it'll display a little arrow in it I think..
• These 2 rows create a 'combination' or simultaneous press of 2 buttons.
• Save..

 

Question for you as this has me a little curious. I have so wanted IL-2 to support more detailed controller configuration, like individual for each plane and more importantly supporting a button that can be used as modifier.

 

As I understand it IL-2 does not deal well with "simultaneous" presses in recognizing them properly, needing a short delay between the first held key and the second one.

 

Does this software allow one to do that?

Edited May 22, 2018 by dburne

[-332FG-Gordon200]

Thanks very much, moosya!

I was doing what you describe in first couple steps then trying to Assign a key on my stick but it erred. Now I see I had already designated a key on the stick.

Doh

[Guest deleted@134347]

27 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Question for you as this has me a little curious. I have so wanted IL-2 to support more detailed controller configuration, like individual for each plane and more importantly supporting a button that can be used as modifier.

 

As I understand it IL-2 does not deal well with "simultaneous" presses in recognizing them properly, needing a short delay between the first held key and the second one.

 

Does this software allow one to do that?

 

unfortunately I don't use any modifiers, however I see there's a Special assignment option where you can specify a SHIFT action and a timer for the following keys.. not sure if that's what you're looking for..