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Raptorattacker
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6 hours ago, Pierre64 said:

Anyone have any color references for the USAAF (late-war) OD Green? I've come across a lot of different sources and none of them are even remotely similar.

THIS help at all? Having said that I sdon't think that any primer is in there but there's this..

Salmon

"Salmon was a pale pink-coloured chromate primer used by Vought in production of the F4U Corsair. It was produced by mixing Indian Red pigment with raw Zinc Chromate primer.
The actual tone was reddish orange."

As Salmon was a mixed primer, claiming an exact colour shade for it would be misleading. However, the FS colour match could be somewhere between FS 32276 and 32356.

 
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616Sqn_Johnny-Red
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13 minutes ago, Raptorattacker said:

THIS help at all? Having said that I sdon't think that any primer is in there but there's this..

 

Those are nice colour guides, especially for amongst other reasons not being in a proprietary format :salute:

 

Thanks for posting them mate. Would you consider also posting in here too?

I'm sure they would be much appreciated.

 

 

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Raptorattacker
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On 31/03/2018 at 6:36 AM, RaFiGer said:

I'm preparing a "fake" mission for the JG 1 and a special one dedicated to the Fw-190 A6 from Sturmstaffel 1& Bf-109 G6  from JG 3 (Topcover). Since there are no heavy bomber the A20 suits anyway perfect. Would someone help me out and paint a group (12 different skins) for the area 1943 (RAF bombers) and 1944 (USAAAF bombers) which fit for the A20 eben if there are B25 or Marauders involved?  

What's the deal? Y'got any ref piccies or anything? Just a bit of a general heads-up to get me on the road? Save me trawling?

24 minutes ago, Johnny-Red said:

I'm sure they would be much appreciated.

I've already posted the colour references but I just put up the swatches as well, they're for Photoshop and are pretty much the same as the references, you just doubleclick them and they'll install straight into your workspace.

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@Raptorattacker,

 

Here's a timeline from the History of War Pages:

History of War about A20

 

QUOTE:

The A-20 made a brief combat debut in Europe in the summer of 1942. On 29 June 1942 one RAF Boston was flown by a crew from the 15th Bomb Squadron during a raid on a railway marshalling yard in France. The 15th flew the first mission in its own right on 4 July 1942, when six aircraft attacked German airfields in Holland. Worryingly two aircraft were lost to ground fire, but only two more missions were flow before the squadron moved to North Africa to join the 12th Air Force.

The A-20 did not reappear in Britain until early in 1944, when the 409th, 410th and 416th Bombardment Groups joined the 9th Air Force in preparation for the invasion of Europe. Tactics had changed since 1942, and these groups now operated a mix of solid nosed B-20Gs and B-20Hs, led by the clear nosed A-20Js and A-20Ks, in medium level attacks. They concentrated on invasion targets – coastal positions, airfields and German communications – and played an important part in the campaign to prevent the German troops in Normandy. 

In the aftermath of D-Day the A-20s were used to support General Patton’s 3rd Army during its advance across France, as well as taking part in the battle of the Falaise Pocket (where the 416th BG won a Distinguished Unit Citation). All three groups then moved to France, from where they took part in the attacks on the German Siegfried Line, while the 416th took part in Operation Market Garden.

In November 1944 the 416th began to convert to the Douglas A-26 Invader, and was soon followed by the 409th. This left the 410th as the only A-20 group during the battle of the Bulge. The group won the Distinguished Unit Citation for making five attacks on German troop concentrations on 23-26 December 1944, helping to break the momentum of the German attack. 

The 410th continued to operate the A-20 into April 1945. During this period it made a number of night attacks in combination with B-26 Marauders and A-26 Invaders, with the B-26s dropping flare to light up the target, the A-26 dropping target markers and the A-20 dropping the bombs. The 410th then began to convert to the A-26 itself, but the war ended before the new aircraft entered combat.

 

Wiki noted the timeframe for the actions involving JG 1, 3 and 11 in a comprehensive form year by year, where 1943 after Summer and early 1944 are the base for my "fake" missions:

Wikipedia List of Operations during the Battle of Europe

 

The colour schemes for 1943 are without the Invasion stripes and "normal" RAF and USAAF standard camouflage schemes for the plans. I try to get some examples or maybe you got already some!

 

Raptorattacker
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3 hours ago, RaFiGer said:

The colour schemes for 1943 are without the Invasion stripes and "normal" RAF and USAAF standard camouflage schemes for the plans. I try to get some examples or maybe you got already some!

I'll have a browse around later today but all help is good!! HOW many of each d'you want? I'll do the Brits for starts so how many of them?

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@Raptorattacker

 

Thank you for your help :)

I would be glad if their are 12 planes so makes a good combat box not to easy to attack :)

Raptorattacker
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2 hours ago, RaFiGer said:

Thank you for your help

Pleasure. Would it be a problem having non-historical? Corredt camos but not necessarily authentic serials/markings? It would certainly make it a tad quicker and easier to do? 12 Brits and 12 US? No invasion livery? How's that sound?

 

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Yes, Raptorattacker,

 

non-historical is o.k. :) Important is the historical touch ;)

Raptorattacker
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No problem, I'll get going on some then! I'll pm you the files once they're done.

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hotshotmike1001
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i am Looking for the A-20 Temp  so i can do some  paint Jobs  does anyone have a link   

 

Thank you  

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3 minutes ago, hotshotmike1001 said:

i am Looking for the A-20 Temp  so i can do some  paint Jobs  does anyone have a link   

 

Thank you  

 

hotshotmike1001
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5 minutes ago, BOO said:

 

 

Thank you   Boo  Your the best I am been Looking every where for this    

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Junjun_Nikurasu
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On 5/2/2018 at 7:05 PM, melkarth said:

 

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Melkarth what have you done!!  The Douglas A-20B is my Quick Mission Dueling nemesis since the Kuban update, its a heavy twin that refuses to act like Heinkel.

 

I MUST TAKE IT DOWN!  I'll show you the prove after the said duel (and I'll dueling "slash" fighting this thing three times: again....).

Junjun_Nikurasu
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Well after a series of duels and fights (every single tough ones to say the least), I manage to brought down three waves of aces piloting the famous Douglas twin fighting bomber:

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I'm telling ya the struggle was real:

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I actually manage to kill the one of the aces:

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But when its all over, I'd landed to a desolate reception just only a few nerdy radio aircraft controllers applause for downing three aces.  Its actually very fitting how much the world doesn't give a crap about my achievements (because that the truth):

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By the way, I appreciated the work you've done.  I'd love challenging you're and other skinners works on these aircraft, just to give em character (even when they becomes kills for the Pandemonium Magica "with horses" of course).  So I'll on a note: Thanks Melkarth.

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616Sqn_Johnny-Red
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Good job. I especially like the Bela Lugosi portrait :lol: Dracula in a Boston!

 

Bela Lugosi's Dead! Undead-Undead-Undead!

 

We will remeber him at the setting of the sun :salute:

616Sqn_Johnny-Red
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2 hours ago, melkarth said:

OMG, I just translated at Google your location !  Can I recommend my E-7?   https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/18965-bf-109-e7-skins/?page=12

 

The (slightly less than) famous People's Republic of South Yorkshire  - an old joke in these parts.


 

Spoiler

 

"Wheear 'ast tha bin sin' ah saw thee, ah saw thee?

 

On Ilkla Mooar baht 'ushanka" :russian_ru:

 

 

As for your friend Hauptman Alexander DeLarge, his accent is somewhat familiar... :lol:

 

 

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As nice as it is, why would you want us to down load a bloody picture?

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ROCKET_KNUT
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Hi Trooper

 

In order to see your reactions... :lol:

 

No, joking aside, it did work, when I tested it... don´t know why it didn´t when you were downloading it... so sorry...

 

It seems I simply mixed up the download links... So, sorry again.

 

Try this link please:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lain1ah15ruob4q/A20B_4K_Orange 72.dds?dl=0

 

 

 

:drinks:

 

Cheers!

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No problem... :)

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Also red or very dark blue instead of orange would be very cute ?

Anyway... a paint scheme very nicely done ?

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Hi guys

 

You might be wondering, this guy seems to sort of like the A-20...

But you´d be wrong... because I ABSOLOUTELY LOVE HER!!!

 

Aaaaaand look who arrived just now... Yes, it is her evil twin.

Completely fictional as well but darker and with a bit more wear and tear.

I hope you like it! Cheers! :drinks:

 

Download link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d9mjblbimquuxb5/A20B_4K_Dark Blue.dds?dl=0

 

Have fun!

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Playing a career BoS on A-20B, made an appropriate 4k skin-pack (9 skins with numbers from "1 white" to "9 white" ). The typical colors of the English "Bostons" received under Lend-Lease in 1942 was taken as a basis.  

 

Link skin-pack: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ux3pbr5zb9qam6a/1-9_A20B_BoS_foxbatRU_4k.zip/file

Link to the mod that removes the flickering of the loaded texture due to the difference in brightness and color from the skin to default and this (for the time being only for my skin on Boston): http://www.mediafire.com/file/1bykdnk4jk54m1d/Small_skins_BOS_Summer.zip/file

 

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Playing a career BoS on A-20B, made an appropriate winter 4k skin-pack (9 skins with numbers from "1 yellow" to "9 yellow" ). The typical colors of the English "Bostons" received under Lend-Lease in 1942 was taken as a basis.  

 

Link skin-pack: http://www.mediafire.com/file/8rpbrzo4ayqa26w/1-9_A20B_BoS_foxbatRU_w.zip/file

Link to the winter mod that removes the flickering of the loaded texture due to the difference in brightness and color from the skin to default and this (for the time being only for my skin on Boston): http://www.mediafire.com/file/gplxld4fp9fku2e/Small_skins_BOS_Winter.zip/file

 

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  On 4/2/2018 at 10:41 PM, DetCord12B said:

Anyone have any color references for the USAAF (late-war) OD Green? I've come across a lot of different sources and none of them are even remotely similar.

 

 

 

Does this help ? :biggrin:

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BTW, I like your A-20 skins !

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Somebody has to stop these damn kids from vandalizing these old airplanes with their spray cans! 
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ROCKET_KNUT
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Based on @ICDP s fantastic template.

 

Ok, the first two skins for the A-20 racing team are ready.

 

The first one is for the French team and it features a big french male chicken... I don´t know, what you are laughing about Britain... :lol:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xm5urfeqsjvk5gr/A20B_4K_French Cock.dds?dl=0

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The second one is for the Australian Team... What do you mean "It is the wrong way up!"??? ;)

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z19iy1nlvu32exi/A20B_Racing Team Australia.dds?dl=0

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I hope you like them and to see these often in the skies. :pilot:

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ScotsmanFlyingscotsman
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thanks to RAPTORATTACKER for the skins, much appreciated

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Some skins for the ones with the time and the knowledge to do it ?

 

 

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On 4/11/2018 at 12:38 PM, Raptorattacker said:

I'll have a browse around later today but all help is good!! HOW many of each d'you want? I'll do the Brits for starts so how many of them?

Is there a chance to request the same pack as RaFiGer?

I currently design missions over Europe from 1942 to 1944, and I desesperately need some RAF and USAAF skins for the A-20 without stripes.

Raptorattacker
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10 hours ago, DN308 said:

Is there a chance to request the same pack as RaFiGer?

I'd have to say ask @RaFiGer first as I would have sent him the skins directly in a PM and I can't actually remember them, for the life of me!!

Sorry to be so vague but there's been a LOT of skins under the bridge since then...

Get back to me if you get any further?

Rap

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8 hours ago, Raptorattacker said:

I'd have to say ask @RaFiGer first as I would have sent him the skins directly in a PM and I can't actually remember them, for the life of me!!

Sorry to be so vague but there's been a LOT of skins under the bridge since then...

Get back to me if you get any further?

Rap

:salute:

Will do and get back to you then.

Thanks anyway

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