Bodenplatte early access

[catchthefoxes]

Is it close yet? just wondering and waiting with excitement.

[BeastyBaiter]

Going by past history, it will be a few months before they start rolling out content for us.

[Daff]

I don't know, but I broke down and preordered it.

 

Still excited for Pacific content most of all, whenever they can tackle that.

[catchthefoxes]

5 minutes ago, BeastyBaiter said:

Going by past history, it will be a few months before they start rolling out content for us.

we did just get a big update so I guess we'll have to wait but I thought they'd have it out by late March or early April maybe sometime in Q2.

[[CPT]Pike*HarryM]

Initial releases could likely be the Bf-109G14 or the Spit IX as they can modify existing models.

[catchthefoxes]

1 minute ago, Foghorn said:

I don't know, but I broke down and preordered it.

 

Still excited for Pacific content most of all, whenever they can tackle that.

pre-order it too! and very hyped

[Gambit21]

Early days still - put it out of your mind and just enjoy Kuban for now.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Let's remember that Kuban got delayed before touting EA for March or April shall we. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd be thinking more like June or July. Maybe May at the earliest. The whole works got backed up significantly on Kuban and we seriously just got about two and a half games worth of new content and updates. Breathe..............breathe.................relax................enjoy.

[Redwo1f]

Ummm, Kuban just got released in full. There will be at least a patch or two for it. Why would people even expect Bodenplatte so soon after?! Gunna be at least a year folks and probably not a thing till summer. I suspect Wings Over the Reich will beat it to release (though they have been quiet too).

Edited March 20, 2018 by Redwo1f

[7.GShAP/Silas]

1 hour ago, Redwo1f said:

Ummm, Kuban just got released in full. There will be at least a patch or two for it. Why would people even expect Bodenplatte so soon after?! Gunna be at least a year folks and probably not a thing till summer. I suspect Wings Over the Reich will beat it to release (though they have been quiet too).

 

 

I think you're right, at least a year before a playable map and one or two flyable aircraft are released into early access.

[Diggun]

1 hour ago, Foghorn said:

I don't know, but I broke down and preordered it.

 

Likewise

[9./JG52_Sturm]

Had a family member gift me Bodenplatte; you all got keys activated on your accounts? I've got nothing so far.

[sevenless]

IIRC it takes about 2 years of development for a module, so I don´t expect to see the first early access planes of Bodenplatte before June this year and maybe the full release Q1/Q2 2020 if all goes well.

 

I´d rather would want to see one or two patches for BoK ironing out the existing kinks and making the platform even better than it already is.

[=FEW=Hauggy]

You need to go to the IL-2 website page login, find the gift and then accept it.

Of course you won't get any content until a first batch of content comes out.

[catchthefoxes]

thanks, guys!! I was just curious.

[Legioneod]

38 minutes ago, 7.GShAP/Silas said:

 

 

I think you're right, at least a year before a playable map and one or two flyable aircraft are released into early access.

No way it's gonna be a year before early access. I'm guessing early access by summer at the latest Full release in a year or so.

[Rolling_Thunder]

Havent they already started modelling some aircraft? Spit P47, sure I read that somewhere, I know thats the easy part but still...work has already started on BoBP. Im thinking we'll see forum tags in April, something significant in May. 

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

3 hours ago, Foghorn said:

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Still excited for Pacific content most of all, whenever they can tackle that.

 

If they were to even start testing pacific content like battleships, carrier ops, or navigation instruments... kuban would be perfect because we have such a large unused body of water....

 

actually, come to think of it, we could probably have some wicked ai ship to ship battles out there and then fly in from land to support,,  that may even prove to be good exercise...

 

is there ship to ship capability in the sim now?

[Gambit21]

I was watching ship to ship stuff last night while testing a mission...damage models of the torpedo boats need to be fleshed out a little.

[Danziger]

Is the P-51 ready yet?

[Legioneod]

1 hour ago, Rolling_Thunder said:

Havent they already started modelling some aircraft? Spit P47, sure I read that somewhere, I know thats the easy part but still...work has already started on BoBP. Im thinking we'll see forum tags in April, something significant in May. 

I read that as well. I'm pretty sure we'll get our first aircraft in a few months 109 or spit first is my guess. probably not gonna get the Jug or Stang until the end unfortunately.

[fiddlinjim]

I enjoy Il2 Box so much that I preordered BOB and purchased the LA5, G6 and some other collector planes to support the DEV efforts at supplying

us with best flight sim ever.

 

[TheBlackPenguin]

I'm looking forward to the Tempest, Jug for ground and pound. 

 

Won't be for awhile though, in the meantime looking forward to pre-ordering Flying Circus and the tank sim, of course enjoying the heck out of the new update.

Edited March 21, 2018 by TheBlackPenguin

[Rjel]

5 hours ago, Legioneod said:

I read that as well. I'm pretty sure we'll get our first aircraft in a few months 109 or spit first is my guess. probably not gonna get the Jug or Stang until the end unfortunately.

I can handle "Jug" for the the P-47 as I think it was used as a nickname in WWII. For the P-51 I can't stand "Stang". That's a recent phase. It just sounds so "upid".

[Legioneod]

1 hour ago, Rjel said:

I can handle "Jug" for the the P-47 as I think it was used as a nickname in WWII. For the P-51 I can't stand "Stang". That's a recent phase. It just sounds so "upid".

How about Pony

[xvii-Dietrich]

7 hours ago, spartan85 said:

If they were to even start testing pacific content like battleships, carrier ops, or navigation instruments... kuban would be perfect because we have such a large unused body of water....

 

actually, come to think of it, we could probably have some wicked ai ship to ship battles out there and then fly in from land to support,,  that may even prove to be good exercise...

 

is there ship to ship capability in the sim now?

 

Excellent point.

 

The Kuban Map is over 50% water. In the south-east quarter there is an absolutely vast expanse of empty sea.

 

Finding your way home from that zone would not require navigation aids. The Axis fly north until they hit the coast and Soviets fly east. A spattering of airfields along those coastlines would give aircraft somewhere to set down. The fighters would be operating at their range-limits and would need to conserve fuel and fly without being loaded up to the gills with bombs and cannons. Bombers would have a decent opportunity to climb up to altitude. There is already a reasonable selection of naval units (although I've not tested putting them against each other in a surface battle).

 

So, yes, Kuban would be a perfect place to experiment with some of the Pacific concepts and test the community's appetite for maritime missions.

 

 

 

And it would be even better if we ever get the collector seaplane   ;-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rjel]

I'm more than pleased with the Kuban release and it'll keep me busy for months. But as long as we're speculating on Bodenplatte early access, I surely hope the P-51 isn't left to stagger in at the very tail end. Besides being maybe the most iconic fighter the USAAF flew in WWII, it has to be one of the most documented and still readily accessible aircraft from that era. The only possible reason I could see for it arriving at the tail end of development would be because it is so familiar that every possible little flaw would be picked apart by everyone. But if the move to Europe is designed to attract more U.S. based simmers, then I would have to believe we will see it much sooner than that.

 

Then again, what do I know? I'm just hoping to fly it soon.

Edited March 21, 2018 by Rjel
posting from my phone should not be allowed....

[Herne]

The order stuff is released in is a good question. 

If we work on the assumption that the more difficult stuff is saved to last, than I would expect the ME262 and the P38 to be among the last out of the door.

Contra rotating propellers on the p38 are great for the FM while they are running, but engine torque depending on which engine fails makes it a little more complex than your average single, or even twin engine I would imagine.

ME262 didn't the dev's say something a while back about having to adjust the game engine  for higher mach rating ?

And lets not forget that flying circus is being developed in parallel with BoBP we've got all that WWI goodness to look forward to as well. exciting times ahead for sure.

Edited March 21, 2018 by =FEW=Herne

[Ehret]

Well... for the P-38 I wouldn't worry about aerodynamics or propellers but turbos - they could be finicky to handle. The same goes for the 262' jet engines - what about the compressor stall? Will be it implemented including all physical nuances? Another probable "troublemaker" is the P-51 with her intricate radiator design.

[Blitzen]

20 hours ago, [CPT]Pike*HarryM said:

Initial releases could likely be the Bf-109G14 or the Spit IX as they can modify existing models.

You could (perhaps ) say the same thing for the long nose FW-190D?

[BlackSix]

44 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

You could (perhaps ) say the same thing for the long nose FW-190D?

There is a new engine (mod of Jumo 211) and a modified construction, this is a large amount of work for us

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Black six beat me to it. The FM's will be different as well despite the wings, tail and center fuse being largely the same.

Edited March 21, 2018 by II/JG17_HerrMurf

[Legioneod]

I just hope to be able to fly the P-47 before the end of the year. The P-51 is nice and all but I can always fly that in DCS. There hasn't been a good sim with a Jug in it in years, can't wait to fly her.

[ATAG_Flare]

The problem with development of the P-47 is that most of the technical documents were destroyed back in the 80s or something. I know the DCS devs were having a very hard time developing the Jug because it was really hard to find documents. Perhaps 1C has a different source for documents but as far as I know it's hard to find accurate technical docs on the P-47 so I'd expect it to take longer than most of the other planes.

 

I predict the Spitfire and 109s to come out first, P-51 shouldn't be that long either.

[Herne]

10 minutes ago, ATAG_Flare said:

The problem with development of the P-47 is that most of the technical documents were destroyed back in the 80s or something. I know the DCS devs were having a very hard time developing the Jug because it was really hard to find documents. Perhaps 1C has a different source for documents but as far as I know it's hard to find accurate technical docs on the P-47 so I'd expect it to take longer than most of the other planes.

 

I predict the Spitfire and 109s to come out first, P-51 shouldn't be that long either.

 

I found the pilots manual with a quick search :-

https://mildepot.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/pilot__s_manual_for_republic_p-47_thunderbolt.pdf

 

and some performance tests :-

 

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/p-47.html

 

Edit: I have a feeling the dev's had probably checked to see if they had access to the data they needed before they officially announced the BoBp plane line up.

Edited March 21, 2018 by =FEW=Herne

[ATAG_Flare]

3 minutes ago, =FEW=Herne said:

 

I found the pilots manual with a quick search :-

https://mildepot.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/pilot__s_manual_for_republic_p-47_thunderbolt.pdf

 

and some performance tests :-

 

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/p-47.html

 

I'm pretty sure developing a plane for a sim requires more detailed documents than these. The documents I was referring to are the manufacturers documents.

[Herne]

2 minutes ago, ATAG_Flare said:

 

I'm pretty sure developing a plane for a sim requires more detailed documents than these. The documents I was referring to are the manufacturers documents.

 

some more good stuff listed here :-

https://aircorpslibrary.com/aircraft/p-47-republic-thunderbolt

 

I'm not saying that you are wrong, but to my untrained eye, it seems that at first glance a lot of p47 documentation is easily available

[Legioneod]

DCS is more high fidelity compared to Il2 so I hope Il2 devs will be able to pull it off without necessarily having all the documents dcs devs need. I just hope they will be able to actually complete the P-47 and hope it doesn't go like DCS did.

[Herne]

1 minute ago, Legioneod said:

DCS is more high fidelity compared to Il2 so I hope Il2 devs will be able to pull it off without necessarily having all the documents dcs devs need. I just hope they will be able to actually complete the P-47 and hope it doesn't go like DCS did.

 

I just took a closer look at the resource I just linked. It has over 19000 technical drawings of the p47 for both early and late models, with some samples.

[Legioneod]

The main documents missing for the DCS module is the wind tunnel data and some other material I think. I wonder if Il2 Devs can get bey without the proper wind tunnel data? If not then I don't see the Jug being released for Il2 either.

Edited March 21, 2018 by Legioneod