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Recently, a lot of different flight stics are avalible, for a greater immersion to the gameplay of the flight simulator, but that I have not found any replica of the IL-2 spade grip ...

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With minor changes, it was used on I-16, LAGG, MIG-3 and LA-5.

We have started to build the model for using in flight simulators, with basic mounting and avilibility to using it on the Warthog base.

For now, we already have mechanical model, we are will test in the sim when som electrical parts will be delivered from china. Also we have no planned springs, so used what we can found.

 

Here is some renders:

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And photos:

 

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Original russian thread is here: https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/6584-zabytye-rusy-ruchka-lopaty-ot-lagg-il-2-mig3-la-5/

Our KG-13 grip model is here: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/23860-kg-13-kbtt-another-one-look-replica/page-3

 

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Wow!! Very cool! My congratulations :good: :good: :good:

 

Marco

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That's great! Im assuming it's compatible with the Virpil base (same pins as warthog right?).

 

What's the finalized color scheme?

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That's great! Im assuming it's compatible with the Virpil base (same pins as warthog right?).

 

What's the finalized color scheme?

It have plug compatible with Warthog, never tested with Virpil base before.

 

About color scheme - it is discussable. I like green, but it could be black like this:

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Yes both green and black look good!

SYN_Vorlander
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Stunning work Cheb.

 

I will place the first order pls

 

Looks fantastic

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Stunning work Cheb.

 

I will place the first order pls

 

Looks fantastic

The second order.. :) The first order was made by  hsthhsth

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That's great! Im assuming it's compatible with the Virpil base (same pins as warthog right?).

 

Yes, any grip that work in Warthog/Cougar base work "PnP" in VPC or BRD bases.

 

"PnP" = Screw the grip in the base and go play - no need dismantle grip, install electronic and mechanical adapters, update firmware and profiles like is required for VKB bases. 

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This is amazing! Any estimate on how much it’ll cost when it goes into production?

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I redrawed several parts. Were hard to decide which option to choose, stopped on the version of the levers of the hooks according to the drawings of IL-2, not MIG, as well as pressure plates now looks like on ILs of the beginning of the war.

the upper button holders were completely redesigned (originally was sketch) and now are close to the original.

 

If everything will goes well, then next week I'll try to cast some small aluminium details.

 

 

 

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I am very interested in buying one of these. Do we have any idea of price/availability?

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В 15.03.2018 в 11:39, -W-Mewt сказал:

I am very interested in buying one of these. Do we have any idea of price/availability?

You are not the first, who interested. We are need time. My friend,  that will cast aluminium is very busy now. And it is too cold in the Moscow now. If it will be about 0c degrees next week we will try to cast gashets, fixer and top button  holders, i'm alreafdy finished forms for it. If it will be suxcesfully, i will prepare form for body. Gashet arms are on factory cutting.

 

And... there will not be plastic version for close future. Only metal, as original.

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I recently dug one IL2 spade grip... :)))

 

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It's a beauty! Great job!

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So, this is the result of the three weeks hard work... (1 houre before and 1,5 hours after the main work)

Tomorrow i will cast intercomm button as well...

 

Here is video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Z31EU7NaE

 

And some pictures:

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The next step will be housing for brakes with VPS interface board and magnetic sensor.

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And.. don't miss video.. link is upthere.. :)

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@Cheb2006, that is really impressive, good job!

F/JG300_Gruber
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Fantastic job !

 

 

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That looks cool! Why you don't use Baur's BRD gimbals and long shaft with it? Table joysticks are toys, I recommend floor mounted sticks with these bases... :)

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8 часов назад, LLv44_Kanttori сказал:

That looks cool! Why you don't use Baur's BRD gimbals and long shaft with it? Table joysticks are toys, I recommend floor mounted sticks with these bases... :)

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Current placemet is just for my convience only.
Basicly it will be placed on VPC base or BAUR, i told about it. VPC base support analog axis on stick, so it is possible to use analog brake. For the Thrustmaster bases it will be only with extention tube and trigger brake, or additionlal board for analog brake with separated connetion to the PC.

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Yesterday i had the problem with uploading images on imgur.com... Anybody know why it does not work anymore?

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Early today Imgur are beyond bandwidth capacity, but at this moment looks OK.

 

 

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On 8/31/2018 at 12:13 PM, Cheb2006 said:

Yesterday i had the problem with uploading images on imgur.com... Anybody know why it does not work anymore?

Has there any update?

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I'm sorry for so long time without news..

A test of the buttons in IL2 Battle of Stalingrad showed that the fire triggers in game not corresponding to the original IL2 flight expluataion guide.  In the game the upper one trigger for machine guns, and the lower one for the cannons. But by original exactly the opposite.tDcIgVI.jpg


I don’t have a Warthog base now, I gave it to a person who promised to made metal adapters for me ... I can’t wait when he finish it. So I had to put it on a plastic adapter and connect it without the Warthog, so for a while there is no way to fly :(

 

Do not forget to watch the video:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4OBTW1RQSo&t=16s

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygr0YZ3Qy8g

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCUISiP_vdI

 

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Great work. ? Wish something like this was available for the VKB Gunfighter. 

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Are you taking orders? I would love a MiG style spade grip!

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Last news...

1. Finaly got my new metal adapters for М36 Х 2 thread.

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2. Made extender, to get correct ergonomic Spade Grip position. Not yet recieved thread cutting tools, but it will look like this:

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Main tube - 30Х1 и Ends - 40Х5. Material - aluminium Д16Т with aviation sertificate :)

 

 

3. Finished Grip for MARK_II cocpit.  It is not for Thrastmaster base, so placement looks different.

On this grip was made some thins, that could not be made at the beginig, because some elemets is very hard to found in Moscow. correct Fire Triggers axis, Nuts with split-pins, New fork for pneumo valve pressure imitation, painting with airbrush,  titles made with patterns. Brake link was also remade.

 

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If somebody wants bluepints of extender, i can share it...

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Neat! Not sure if I would paint it. Looks quite good in metal. Now the bare metal will kind of emphasize where the handle ends, and neck begins. If the front panel of the handle went down the neck like in the real cockpit, I think I would paint it though, since then the whole thing would be more a single unit.

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Exceeding work. :good:

 

Just need a better joystick base, e.g. VPC T50 CM2, WarBRD. ;)

 

 

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7 часов назад, Sokol1 сказал:

Exceeding work. :good:

 

Just need a better joystick base, e.g. VPC T50 CM2, WarBRD. ;)

 

 

You are right. This extender is not for Warthog base... I just tested on it. Awaiting my WarBRD base in a few days ;)

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Got my WarBRD base and WarBRD grip. It's amazing!  I will finish placement for it and post images :)

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