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Hey as we all know we will have a slight problem when B 20 comes and the P 39 for that matter.

I can see Franch squadrons, DBS, JAVA and 216th + many more independant flyers compete about the slots available on the B 20.

What if we try to make this a fair share kind of a deal. Divide it into different fridays for each squad interested in flying it, it is hardly fair that one squadron seing the announcement first get all the slots, not for the sqads and in special for those independent flyers.

Just a thought 

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I m personnally not totally in ...i mean , i m not in a dedicated squad , so which friday is mine ?... every friday is mine ?... i m not in a squad but we "french pilots" get slots for our specific friends with who we ALWAYS fly in the Fnbf . 

 

Example i get slot for IRRE_Golgoth21 ( and i m not in his squad) and he s doing the same for me : the first to see the announcement get slot for the other BUT we make sure BEFORE that the guy will for sure be there .

Same thing with Bexhausted another french pilot who s not in a dedicated squad...we  always fly together as a team and we are friends . Note that i or golgoth or behausted do not get slot for the NN who manage their own squad . 

 

In one word we manage "the thing" ourselves  , on the opposite i think the way you propose to manage it will charge Tip to do it  .... making  sure the right pilot is on his right friday ....(more work)

 

It s not a criticism ;) do not take it as a negative comment ;)

 

And of course i m with you that if it appears that for example 2 squads get the whole slots every weeks in one single post from one of their member  it s not fair ... especially if it appears that on friday some of the reserved slots are free because pilots are not in ...

 

I m not sure there s a perfect way to manage the thing .... except may be a second fnbf server every friday ^^

 

 

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I am not saying squads only, in special should independant flyers be considered in this, witch it clearly states in my initial post. One post can take all slots you know. I am not saying how itcould be solved, I am saying we all should have a chance to fly it at least once a month. I would think things will cool down, but seing the PE 2 always being booked 2 minutes after announcment , it will be a problem, witch I think we should try to solve before it occure 

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"seing the PE 2 always being booked 2 minutes after announcment , it will be a problem, witch I think we should try to solve before it occure "

 

Totally agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    ....    (and not only because it s about pe2 ^^ ) ...

 

AND it s a good idea to speak about that  before it happens , as it is more and more difficult to be sure to fly in Fnbf  !

 

May be we can find a way of managing this problem . 

 

For example : on yesterday hapening  i havent been fast enough  to take a pe 2 slot,  they were all taken when i check to get a slot  , so i shouldn t have fly yesterday ...

 

But thursday i ve asked NN_Razor (pe2 leader) to be his gunner , cos yes even if i m just a gunner , friday for me it s FNBF... he says no problem you jump in as far as there s enough place on the server ...so i connect on TS without having a slot and to be gunner ....finally  

It appears that one of the NN was not there (personnal reason) when  the mission begin and so -------> i move from gunner to pilot ... slot was finally free i filled it . 

 

I dunno how to organize the thing ...may be squad leaders say to Tip ok every friday we are able to have "X"     x is a number , pilots sure to be there and so there s X slots reserved for each squad as long as they filling all the places reserved ?... and there s "X" slots reserved for non squad member ?.....  dunno if it s a solution just a thought 

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It will be the same for P 39. I do not know myself, our group mainly take IL 2, some fly PE 2. With B 20, we all want to fly B 20, if we wanted it, we could have reserved slots first minute. But it is not fair. DBS have mentioned interest in flying B 20 , rendering possibilities for us to maybe fly Stuka at times. For balance sake. Nothing is impossible, I just think we should make best possible solutions for all. Independant pilots is just as important for FNBF as squadrons, many times in the past we have had problem filling the slots. We should and must make room for all

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"We should and must make room for all"

 

Yep i agree , and the only thing i say is that it must not rely on Tip who have a load of things to do with other things to make participation  and fnbf happen .

 

So every proposal every suggestion is welcome ...and it relies on us .

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Should we set up a list of pilots interested in flying B 20 , and let the list decide whos going to fly B 20 at any given Friday. Compare the list with those signing up and let i go in a loop? Anyone think it is doable? 

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It does not matter to me personally, it's about the fun .

 

 

Whether we have to fly in a fighter or bomber . But indeed, if there are too few aircraft like the A-20..........

 

Then it might be wise to distribute these planes fairly.

 

Maybe make a list of the pilots who can fly the A-20 on the odd weeks and even weeks.... it's just an idea .

 

I am a bomber pilot who can fly in a fighter if necessary , for me that is no problem at all.

 

There could also be a limit for the number of a-20s in stock for a squad,

such as up to 3  A-20s for one squad. The rest should then take a PE-2.

 

 

 

 
I am still dangerous to the enemy with a PE-2 ..... lol

 

 

 

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An easy way to solve the problem is to only allow each player to sign up for himself. I’ve noticed a lot of group/squad signing up followed by individuals backing out as the day approaches lately, sometimes leading to too few planes active. I think group signups are in part responsible for this trend. It’s kind of become a bit like musical chairs.

 

FNBF is a very special event, and Tip has created a venue that is clearly desirable to many people. Maybe it is best not to think of it as a squad event. Squads can organize many events to fly together. As an independent pilot, I find it enjoyable to fly with and get to know different people each week. Perhaps those in squads can view it the same way if they don’t all get the same plane to fly together.

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If you dont get the latest blingbling on the VVS side first so do luftwaffe have some nice and tested models that work great. :) *disclaimer:aslongasnooneelsishooting*

The new plane phase will pass fast with medium alt (4-5k) bombing as VVS where the 109 starts to shine. (I love the h16 over the old h6 so perhaps A20 will be more loved then the pe2, but i dont belive soo in 3months time) 

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In all this, our squad have no problem flying Luftwaffe if bomberpilots from LW want to fly Red . Problem with this is if a squad change sides imbalance will be a problem . I do not look at this as a problem per see , I just see the slots in FNBF is more and more difficult to get. 44 is possible the wise number conserning server . But it gaining popularity for good and bad. I just felt we need to think a bit on this before it come

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Why not have a run of missions that are BOMBER flights? A-20, Pe-2, He111 and Ju88s with escort and intercepting fighters. No Stukas, no Il-2s, no 110s, no Jabos or, indeed, bombs on any fighters. Let all the squads and individuals have a go at the A-20 if they want to, until we are satisfied? Then we can go back to business as usual.

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It will work out whether through undesignated aircraft, full up straight bomber mission or a combination of both along with a role switch here and there. All of which you've addressed.

We are all looking forward to the new VVS aircraft and the update as a whole.

Huzzah...

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I think the novelty of the A20 may be short lived, and when the fans realise that you get shot down as easily as if you were in an He111, the competition for places will maybe subside.

An easy way to solve the problem is to only allow each player to sign up for himself. I’ve noticed a lot of group/squad signing up

Just check out the first post after this week's fnbf was announced

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There is no law agains squad signing, we have so far restrained from it. But I see no harm in it. The A 20 is so much more than a HE 111. Because we had only one bomber while LW have multiple 2 engined planes, 2 bombers and one transport, I am afraid Red side is more beneficial for fighterpilots .

Anyway A 20 is the plane together with Pacific , Bodenplatte announcement and P 39 the theme most discussed outside BOS community. I have no doubts things will calm down. But not for FNBF , I think A 20 will be among the most popular planes a long time

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