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Brilliant update!!

 

sexy plane and the new skin textures and reflections...........WOW!!!

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Does anybody know what the deal is with this skin? It's got old markings painted over but the green on green camo and two roundels on top of the wings don't look USAAF to me. Is it a transfer from the UK?

 

edit: the internet answered my question - this has "former RAF" written all over it (didn't see the painted-over tail flash at first).

 

 

 

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Almost all the discarded British P-400s eventually found their way to the VVS I think.

Posted (edited)

Excited for next update :)!

Edited by Riderocket
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so much shiny new stuff to play with, and even more to come!!

 

many, many thanks!

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I say "rendering", but TBH I don't know what the hell I'm talking about from a technical standpoint :) I just recall they were doing something to make the metaly bits shine more realistically.

I see a reflection and normal map in play in that texture. Looks good.

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Does anybody know what the deal is with this skin? It's got old markings painted over but the green on green camo and two roundels on top of the wings don't look USAAF to me. Is it a transfer from the UK?

 

edit: the internet answered my question - this has "former RAF" written all over it (didn't see the painted-over tail flash at first).

 

 

 

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Yeah, you beat me to it. It'll be a former 601 Sqn Airacobra mk I.

 

P39 looks great + other features will be nice.

 

Shame no RAF skin thou

If I remember correctly, they flew a single combat mission before being replaced almost immediately, so there's not really any RAF service to speak of.

 

The bare metal finish looks killer though. And I'm quite drawn to the sandy desert ones as well...

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Posted

Just took another look at the P 39 skins. They are gorgeous!

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I was never a P-39 fan, but I gotta say, them pictures are beautiful!

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Posted (edited)

Salutations all,

 

Yes, the P39 looks great. I'm looking forward to discovering how well it flies and fights.  :salute:

Edited by Thad
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I say "rendering", but TBH I don't know what the hell I'm talking about from a technical standpoint :) I just recall they were doing something to make the metaly bits shine more realistically.

...and I'm unclear how the engine handles these things relative to the 3D applications that I'm accustomed to.

No matter anyway, it looks great and can't wait for that bare metal P-47 (with plenty of weathering of course)

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something strange with the look of the clouds  for me

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Cant wait to try p-39, looks amazing.

=EXPEND=Capt_Yorkshire
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:good:  looking forward to it.

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That P39 looks good :)  looking forward to its release... today is a good day also my Thrustmaster twcs & vkb gladiator mk.ii arrived today :)

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Ah... a good day indeed Buglord:salute: 

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something strange with the look of the clouds for me

It's been like this since the DX11 update. The previous clouds were great. I'm sure they will work something out to get the clouds nice again eventually.

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It's been like this since the DX11 update. The previous clouds were great. I'm sure they will work something out to get the clouds nice again eventually.

 

Current release version clouds are still normal for me.

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At first I was thinking it was an AMD issue but my laptop is Intel and nvidia and the clouds are still the same. I know when the DX11 update released there were huge problems with AMD cards and a patch was released that cured the problem but was a compromise on the graphic quality in order to do so. I can't remember if Jason said it affected the clouds as well or just the smoke effects. Anyway you can see even in a lot of screenshots some circle pattern in the clouds when seen from certain angles. Pretty sure there is a report in the bugs section about it but I don't know what they could really do about it.

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Pretty sure that compromise was removed after AMD fixed their drivers.

 

2.010:

 

 

9. Thanks to AMD software engineers who fixed the addressing in certain situations, we were able to return more optimized particle effects rendering. This might give you a minor performance boost;
Edited by FuriousMeow
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All good, roll on the P39 and A-20 for moi.

Rolling_Thunder
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I was never a P-39 fan, but I gotta say, them pictures are beautiful!

Just thinking the same.

I always thought it was an ugly weird looking airplane. Changing my mind now.

Posted

Hope we get many new bare metal skins with that new tech...looks great! I'm so excited for the Bodenplatte planes just to see a P-51/P-47/P-38 with that bare metal skin :)

Winglesschip209
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Great updates! I'm astounded at the levels of detail that Pretrovich has been working on in areas that I just wouldn't even think of. That's why he is doing the systems engineering stuff and I'm just typing this message :)

 

Great work guys!

 

Also... THIS looks amazing.

 

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I mean.... Look at that. Stunning!

 

Last night before I went to bed I was thinking on the P-40E how theirs that American skin that looks aluminum color I was thinking how cool it would be if they made it more shinny and look what I find after work looks very nice   

KaC_Richard_Rogers
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7.2 It is impossible to open or close the canopy at speeds higher than 600 km/h.

 

WooHoo I presume this means while the Russian planes will not be on par with the German's it will allow Russian pilots a better chance to bail... especially the La5.

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The 190 had charges to blow the canopy off to bail out. I think, but not sure, the 109 did as well.

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The 190 had charges to blow the canopy off to bail out. I think, but not sure, the 109 did as well.

 

...as far as I know,109 did not, heard an interview, were a 109 pilot mentioned, they even dried to flip the plane on its back to open it easier and more likely prevent to fall against the rudder!

 

yours

v.Greiff

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At first I was thinking it was an AMD issue but my laptop is Intel and nvidia and the clouds are still the same. I know when the DX11 update released there were huge problems with AMD cards and a patch was released that cured the problem but was a compromise on the graphic quality in order to do so. I can't remember if Jason said it affected the clouds as well or just the smoke effects. Anyway you can see even in a lot of screenshots some circle pattern in the clouds when seen from certain angles. Pretty sure there is a report in the bugs section about it but I don't know what they could really do about it.

 

That rendering bug was fixed and they went back to updated clouds in 2.010 IIRC.

 

EDIT: Yes, here it is.

 

9. Thanks to AMD software engineers who fixed the addressing in certain situations, we were able to return more optimized particle effects rendering. This might give you a minor performance boost;

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/12826-game-updates/?do=findComment&comment=470291

NO_SQDeriku777
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End of January was Jason's personal earliest estimate, if they encountered no issues or there was no feature creep. 

 

I gotta say that the features have crept pretty far with 3.001 - boy is there a lot of content coming in this one.

 

Off the top of my head:

 

Career mode for all three (4?) chapters

 

Coop mode

 

Nearly 40 different mission types

 

P-39L

 

A-20B

 

Yak-7B

 

La-5FN

 

Bf 109G6

 

New ship models (I think?)

 

Increased render distance for landscape

 

Improved clouds

 

Improved weather effects

 

Rain on the canopy glass

 

a host of small improvements in engine models and DM

 

EDIT: Forgot improved ground rendering and FX.

Does anyone know what COOP will be like? People reference ROF-style COOP, but since I never owned or played ROF I have no frame of reference here. As much as I enjoy the details of the planes I would really like to know what interface changes are in the works to facilitate multiplayer. There was much talk of something resembling Hyperlobby but I have yet to see anything about these features in recent dev diaries. Have I missed something?

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MP interface changes to include chat and alternate match making is post-Kuban official release.

NO_SQDeriku777
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MP interface changes to include chat and alternate match making is post-Kuban official release.

What about COOP details?

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RoF needed at least 2 people to start.

 

The only difference between Coop and what we have right now is rather than the start of the mission not happening until it is started from the person running the Coop, the current MP can allow people and AI to take off right when they join. Although timers can be set to delay when AI take off, and gentleman's rules apply for people to agree to not take off before the mission is agreed to start by all participants.

 

Coops just hold the start of the mission until everyone is joined. Plenty of wars were done with RoF's multiplayer mode that is the base for the current MP mode in BoX, so wars and missions can be done with the current MP it just requires timer delays on AI and people agree to not start until everyone is ready.

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At first I was thinking it was an AMD issue but my laptop is Intel and nvidia and the clouds are still the same. I know when the DX11 update released there were huge problems with AMD cards and a patch was released that cured the problem but was a compromise on the graphic quality in order to do so. I can't remember if Jason said it affected the clouds as well or just the smoke effects. Anyway you can see even in a lot of screenshots some circle pattern in the clouds when seen from certain angles. Pretty sure there is a report in the bugs section about it but I don't know what they could really do about it.

 The bug report was by me. GTX750 here and the bug ist still there. Looks very weird in some situations.

CaptainDawson
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Ok, this is the last straw. I'm just gonna buy Kuban it seems.  :happy:

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all inspired now; will have to re-read soon, great writing/aviation book!!

 

 

"a temperamental P-39 Airacobra, ............. she was a `sexy machine, and rotten.' Together they flew countless wartime missions, so vividly described here that the reader sighs with relief when Nanette and her pilot return safely''

 

hehehe

 

"However, the Airacobra was never a popular aircraft with the U.S. Army Air Force. Its short cruising ... It was variously described as "disappointing," of no use for operations "except in an emergency," "suited for wide, low and slow circles," and the "widow maker" by pilots and historians of the army air force."

 

"Why then did the Airacobra suffer such a “bad press” when compared with the P40? Rather than technical difficulties, the P39 was beset with psychological misgivings on the part of the average pilot who disliked knowing that the heavy Allison engine, mounted just behind the cockpit, poised behind him was ready to crush him in case of a belly landing."

 

from Flying American Combat Aircraft of World War II: 1939-1945

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=P0KiPMJuXkUC&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=widowmaker+airacobra&source=bl&ots=bSYTRkUfZx&sig=MspoD4Cs44wJeaycHzDtjg2dRe0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF78G_9fbYAhUKfLwKHZ7rDwEQ6AEIPzAJ#v=onepage&q=widowmaker%20airacobra&f=false

 

 

"Despite the bad press which later dogged it"  https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/blog/p-39-airacobras-defence-australia

 

 

The internet is confused and thinks the widowmaker was the B-26....

 

 

America’s Worst World War II Fighter Was the Star of the Russian Air Force http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/americas-worst-world-war-ii-fighter-was-the-star-the-russian-22152

It's gonna be fun. :salute:

Edited by Pail
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Lord lord, I cant wait!   thank you so much.

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Lord lord, I cant wait!

 

Yep I'm getting a little concerned about a peasant revolt and cases of spontaneous combustion in association with the anticipation for this patch.

Posted

Front-mounted engines are for people who can't commit.

 

We have to be satisfied with vicarious pleasures for now....

 

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wombatBritishBulldogs
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Hopefully the team kill percentages will drop off a little given the unique design / profile of the p-39 But the Molotov cocktail  in the backseat is a wee concerning given the hunks of metal the opposition  toss around ! even if self sealing   :unsure:  Skins and screenshots looking nice .

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