183_IAP_Baranov Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 Thanks Taxman ! I understand your point totally. Nothing is impossible. There just needs to be a common sense approach with enough support in order to make an idea into a reality.
Lusekofte Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 19 hours ago, 365th-FG_Collins said: We should focus on solutions instead of making up excuses for why something can't be done due to resources. Provide a realistic cost analysis on how to solve this request and let the right people create the product. Seems fair enough ? I'm sure others would agree ! It is pretty impossible for us to do. We know absolutely nothing about how many bought this game. And how many interested in buying a flyable bomber. Nor do we know how many they need to sell to make it worth while. I know this would be a doable project in between packs. I had reservations when they announced TC and FC, that meant higher workload on the dev team, with absolutely no chance of extra addons. This was dooming PTO , I knew right there and then it was over. So question remain how big of interest is there, enough to make Jason lift his eyebrow? what solution is there we can work out? Tell me and I do it.
CIA_Yankee_ Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 I would sell my right arm for the B-25, absolutely. The allies definitely need another crewable medium bomber. Be it the 25 or the 26, it doesn't really matter: we just need another one we can fly. 1
Fritz_X Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, 71st_AH_Yankee_ said: The allies definitely need another crewable medium bomber. Be it the 25 or the 26, it doesn't really matter: we just need another one we can fly. Even though I almost never fly bombers myself, I wholeheartedly agree and would buy a flyable B-25 or/and B-26. I'd also wish for a IL-4, so the VVS would finally get a medium bomber somewhat comparable to the He-111. 3 5
=FEW=fernando11 Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 What about asking the 3rd party Developer team that worked on the po2/TC to do a broad cost assesment of how much is needed. And see if we can reach it with crowdfunding. I know Jason is agains crowdfunding, but maybe they could allow a trusted 3rd party member to make the experiment. 1
-RR-Napoleon- Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 The Ju-52 is currently selling for $25.00 USD. If they update the A-20 with a navigator/bombardier position with the announcement of a B-25 I wouldn't hesitate at spending $40 or even $50 USD for a playable B-25. I would pay more if more features were added, like some mentioned in this thread. 3
hotshotmike1001 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 Please make it fly able. It’s only correct to do so. If the axis got the he111. Then the s allied side. Should get the b25. Thats only fair.
Trooper117 Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 Jason has already said he wants to make it flyable, he also wants to see a flyable B-26, so hang around long enough you just might see it happen... but not tomorrow!
BOOS30 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Perhaps did could help: North American B-25 Mitchell The ultimate Look from Drawing Board to Flying Arsenal Writer: William Wolf Publisher: Schiffer Military History 2008 477 pages of technical information of every type B-25 build Original factory photographs and original factory drawings. Description of every operating system with my best Regards
Lusekofte Posted October 31, 2020 Posted October 31, 2020 I would not mind a hard nose version. But if this also would be made without a bombardier. Then I give up
DN308 Posted October 31, 2020 Posted October 31, 2020 I want to fly that bombardier so hard!!!! This beauty is really my wish. If it could be flyable, you will see so much bombardment campaigns! Don’t let us down @devs, @Jason
Siegfried-Schutz Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 So, do we have an official statement about this plane or not? Is it still in everybody's mind, that we want B25 and are ready to pay for it?
ww2fighter20 Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 57 minutes ago, Siegfried-Schutz said: So, do we have an official statement about this plane or not? Is it still in everybody's mind, that we want B25 and are ready to pay for it?
Bernard_IV Posted May 15, 2021 Posted May 15, 2021 If we do a B25 it has to be the one with like 15 forward facing guns on it. 1
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted May 18, 2021 Author Posted May 18, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 5:00 PM, Bernard_IV said: If we do a B25 it has to be the one with like 15 forward facing guns on it. 12+2 if the Upper Turret joins in. 1
Bremspropeller Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 On 10/31/2020 at 12:47 PM, LuseKofte said: I would not mind a hard nose version. But if this also would be made without a bombardier. Then I give up Easiest way around that would be modelling the J and offer a strafer-conversion as a modification. And seriously consider ditching the turrents. Or consider implementing them later. 1
ww2fighter20 Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 On the western front only the Commonwealth used the B25. (USA used them in the Mediterranean). The Commonwealth primarily used the current B25 (AI only) which is the D version (Mitchel II). The Mitchell II (B25D) was used since early 1943 till the end of the war on the western front, so it will be usefull for Pre-Normandy/Normandy and Bodenplatte. The Mitchell III (B25J) was only used from late 1944/early 1945 till the end of the war on the western front, so it will be usefull only for Bodenplatte. B25D was also used by the Soviets before the B25J, not sure if they where used on the current maps (maybe in Stalingrad, Blacksix did mention in the past no B25's where used in Kuban so that can be ruled out). B25D was often fieldmodified with an strafer nose in New Guinea, there were even some that added an 20mm gun as you can see in the next picture, you might also notice the original outline of the glass nose is still visible.
BMA_FlyingShark Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 On 10/31/2020 at 12:47 PM, LuseKofte said: I would not mind a hard nose version. But if this also would be made without a bombardier. Then I give up For me it's the other way around, I would prefer a bombardier version. But I wouldn't give up if it's only the strafer version. Have a nice day.
Majakowski Posted July 24, 2021 Posted July 24, 2021 We sorely need a bombardier version, there are enough low level attack planes at the moment. And maybe the bugged bombsight would eventually get fixed. When flying in Multiplayer to only have the Pe-2 and the A-20 makes it lopsided in favour of the Axis when it comes to bomb loads of level bombers. The B-25 could carry more than two 1000lb bombs to finally inflict damage from level bombing comparable to the Axis planes. The numerous but...well...100kg so called bombs in the A-20 make it a very bipolar experience, either you land them all directly on point or you miss the target by a few centimetres and it was all for nought. Hopefully something can be done to satisfy both the level bomber crews and the strafers. 2
[DBS]TH0R Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) On 7/24/2021 at 4:25 PM, Majakowski said: We sorely need a bombardier version, there are enough low level attack planes at the moment. And maybe the bugged bombsight would eventually get fixed. When flying in Multiplayer to only have the Pe-2 and the A-20 makes it lopsided in favour of the Axis when it comes to bomb loads of level bombers. The B-25 could carry more than two 1000lb bombs to finally inflict damage from level bombing comparable to the Axis planes. The numerous but...well...100kg so called bombs in the A-20 make it a very bipolar experience, either you land them all directly on point or you miss the target by a few centimetres and it was all for nought. Hopefully something can be done to satisfy both the level bomber crews and the strafers. Seconded. I would add the fact A-20 has by far the least effective rear gunners. With He-111H6 for the example you at least have a good chance to bring down the attacker with you if he insists on using "sitting on the 6OC" tactics... Edited July 26, 2021 by [DBS]TH0R
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