Too many Bf 109s in the game?

[Enceladus828]

2 minutes ago, Voyager said:

Ok, what was the G-5?

The G-5 was a G-6 with a pressurized cockpit

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

The ones left would be G-14/AS and G-10. The G-5 is the same as the G-6 but with pressurized cockpit (same for G-1 and G-3, pressurized variants of the G-2 and G-4 respectively). The "G-10/AS" looks like some sort of misconception when describing the Erla built G-10s which had a slightly different cowling shape to the other G-10s.
 

6 minutes ago, Voyager said:

@sevenless

And, what was the key difference between the /AS versions? I recall that the G-6/AS has the aerodynamic nose and a high boots engine, but that's about the depth of my 109 knowledge... 

The AS variants had the DB 605AS engines, which had the supercharger from the DB 603, optimized for higher altitudes, at the expense of losing performance at low altitudes.


I'm not convinced about a new expansion with a late G-6 which is basically the G-14 in BoBP. The G-6/AS could be interesting, specially if they use the cowling 3D model and engine model to add the AS engine as modification for the G-14 in BoBP.

Edited February 19, 2019 by -=PHX=-SuperEtendard

[Voyager]

I was more thinking of the G-6 late being the versions with the late war construction varents such as the wooden tail, and potentially with the MW-50 as an optional mod. 

 

But, I'll concede that a G-6 Late with all the mods would likely be equivalent to a G-14. I suppose it would function more as a bucket to contain all the weird parts that could be fitted to the G-6,that ultimately drive the need for the G-14.

 

Plus, you couldn't do the Swiss without the wing of totally miss-matched G-6's. Just dropping in G-14's would look to standard

Edited February 19, 2019 by Voyager

[EAF19_Marsh]

I’d prefer a 190 A-6 to be honest, to go with the Prokhorovka map. Is there that much of a gap between the G-6 and G-14 that a new model would be really important?

[sevenless]

7 hours ago, Voyager said:

@sevenless Ok, what was the G-5?

 

And, what was the key difference between the /AS versions? I recall that the G-6/AS has the aerodynamic nose and a high boots engine, but that's about the depth of my 109 knowledge... 

G5 was the pressurized version of the 109:

 

G-5 (Pressurized fighter) 
G-5/U2 (High-altitude fighter with GM-1 boost)
G-5/U2/R2 (High-altitude reconnaissance fighter with GM-1 boost)
G-5/AS (High-altitude fighter with DB 605AS engine)
G-5y (Command fighter)

 

Difference between AS and non-AS versions were the engines and the "external look". Due to the increased size of the AS engines the nose had to be adapted. No bulges for 13mm guns but an aerodynamic nose like the K4 had. G5/AS, G6/AS, G14/AS, G10 and K4 all looked pretty much the same with regard to their nose layout.

 

6 hours ago, Voyager said:

I was more thinking of the G-6 late being the versions with the late war construction varents such as the wooden tail, and potentially with the MW-50 as an optional mod. 

 

Late spring to summer 44 would have those two variants of the 109 AFAIK being the most numerous in the west: late G5s and G6s and G6/AS:

 

 

Edited February 19, 2019 by sevenless

[Kurfurst]

Late G-6 = G-14

 

Now a late G-14/AS (~G6/AS or G-5/AS) would really all that is needed, and probably easy as an engine mod with some cowling rework (may use K-4 assets as a starting point) as the type was fairly important.

 

G-10 can be an alternative, as performance wise its pretty much the same as the G-14/AS, but maybe it is better reserved for a late Eastern front module..

[CountZero]

On 2/16/2019 at 11:15 AM, danielprates said:

 

I would also note that the planes on both sides were evenly matched, the D9 and the K4 owing nothing to any allied plane. If in real life at thay point in the war there was an imbanlace, that was due to shortage of materials and trained airmen - not in plane compairson. So given that the game does not simulate any of the luftwaffe's organizational shortcomings, it certainly does not affect gameplay at all.

D9 an K4 over Normandy ? DCS history  or your talking about BoBp ?

 

 

[danielprates]

28 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said:

D9 an K4 over Normandy ? DCS history  or your talking about BoBp ?

 

 

BoBp of course!

[yogy]

A late G-6 could be easily realized by making the MW50 in the G-14 a loadout option - similar to the Forszah-boost in the La-5.

 

Although I love the 109, I personally do not need a G-6/AS as it plays a role at high altitude which will only matter when we get USAAF heavies pulling us up to 7.000m. Waiting for BoR - Battle of the Reich.  

[ww2fighter20]

I can't find any info for me410 based in france in 1944, most seems to have moved to airfields located in germany or eastern front, where any actually operational from french airfields in 1944?

[EAF19_Marsh]

23 hours ago, ww2fighter20 said:

I can't find any info for me410 based in france in 1944, most seems to have moved to airfields located in germany or eastern front, where any actually operational from french airfields in 1944?

 

I thought they were moved behind the projected escort fighter radius, but probably others have more exact information.