Kuban MP low FPS

[KG200_Volker]

Did anyone else noticed this ?

 

We used the elements of a MP mission with the map of Stalingrad and transfer them to Kuban, with 1080 nvidia and 2k monitors, from 130-140 FPS on first map we drop to 65-50 on Kuban, lower end cards to 40-30-20, the thing is that even at 60 the movement is so statery or jerky that you feel like its 30 and basically close to unplayable for the other guys.

 

In SP on the other hand with 8 bombers and 8 fighters dogfight, FPS are normal like before.

 

We also loaded the Kuban map with just 2 AFs for air start and nothing else, things improved just a bit, +10 FPS give or take. You could still feel that it was not smooth at all.

 

Any ideas???

Edited August 30, 2017 by KG200_Volker

[Ribbon]

I7 6700k, gtx1070, 2k monitor everything on ultra settings.

I played last night on Berloga server with my friend, there were 60-70 players all the time and i didn't notice any problem regarding performance.

I didn't watch fps count but also i didn't have any stuttering or any feel about poor performance.

Will try it tonight again.

Cheers!

[Gambit21]

I took a hit with my 4K monitor.

I'm normally pinned at 60 FPS on Ultra, but hover around 54-56 now.

I've begrudgingly turned down a few settings to no avail - I'll mess with it more tomorrow.

[Herne]

Did anyone else noticed this ?

 

We used the elements of a MP mission with the map of Stalingrad and transfer them to Kuban, with 1080 nvidia and 2k monitors, from 130-140 FPS on first map we drop to 65-50 on Kuban, lower end cards to 40-30-20, the thing is that even at 60 the movement is so statery or jerky that you feel like its 30 and basically close to unplayable for the other guys.

 

In SP on the other hand with 8 bombers and 8 fighters dogfight, FPS are normal like before.

 

We also loaded the Kuban map with just 2 AFs for air start and nothing else, things improved just a bit, +10 FPS give or take. You could still feel that it was not smooth at all.

 

Any ideas???

Are you talking about berloga ? It's not usual for that server to have the kind of numbers it was hosting last night. 60 + plane furballs, is quite something to see, but a nightmare for netcode I imagine.

[Luftschiff]

My FPS counter varied between 135-100, but it was occasionally unplayably stuttery in a manner I've never seen before. Either the FPS counter was lying to me or something very strange is going on. Felt like 15 fps at best.

[sniperton]

Felt similarly in SP with a low-end card (1050 Ti). FPS was 50+ with ReShade on (and constant 60 with ReShade off), still I felt some micro-stutterings I never experienced before. Perhaps it's important to note that I only felt it in inside view, and I can't exclude that my TIR became stuttery.

[KG200_Volker]

Not berloga, our own server, the feeling is exact as Luftschiff describes. Trying to find out if we did something wrong (5 peeps testing).

[=GM=GJL2]

Felt similarly in SP with a low-end card (1050 Ti). FPS was 50+ with ReShade on (and constant 60 with ReShade off), still I felt some micro-stutterings I never experienced before. Perhaps it's important to note that I only felt it in inside view, and I can't exclude that my TIR became stuttery.

how about ur other settings？

[KG200_Volker]

OK, more research is done.

 

We used a quick mission made by the simulator with 8 bombers + 8 fighters which is converted for MP through the mission editor with one AF for us to spawn, the news are good, just a small drop in frames and no stutters. Then we doubled the AI planes 16 bom. 16 fight. and results are the same.

 

So it seems that if you use elements from a previous mission and other maps and transfer them to Kuban map it creates some kind of problem. I will try to create from scratch in Kuban map to see the difference.

 

Mission makers take a note on this!

[Fang333333]

I also experience some major hit's in performance. Although I am just using a laptop that in no way compares to the high end users here, I play Stalingrad and Moscow really well on ultra settings. I hope this is something that can be addressed in a future patch. I do not expect to get a new desktop anytime soon and my video making capabilities on Kuban result in a slightly choppy experience. Honestly, it seems like something that a few tweaks here or there could fix. Not that I know anything about developing or programming, I just feel like a few adjustments could make the Kuban map fluid for me.

Edited September 4, 2017 by Fang333333

[THERION]

It really depends on the settings you have in your graphic configuration of the game - you can't expect a smooth performance and high fps with an older

hardware.

 

I have my settings set HIGH with 1920x1080 full screen, no v-sync, no SSO/HDR, landscape 2x, fps limiter off, grass normal, mirror and shadow medium.

And it still looks great.

 

Yesterday evening I was on MP with the Kuban map, there were about 30 chaps flying around, we had some flak, so pretty busy so to say. With my rig,

which is already 3 years old, I still get a  average 100 fps (98 - 120).

 

Perhaps one should adapt his expectations...

 

Cheers

 

My rig:

Win10, I7-4770, 16GB Ram, GTX-970 4GB, Saitek X55 Rhino, Saitek Rudder, Saitek Throttle quadrant and Saitek Cessna Trim Wheel, TrackIR 5

[KaC_Richard_Rogers]

I have had not stutters on the Kuban map in multiplayer (WoL) but on the old maps since the update I have noticed at times that there was excessive stutters when there are a lot of aircraft. When I did fly the Kuban map with a dozen or so aircraft over the sea/land I had no stutters at all. Admittedly I have only flown the Kuban map one in multiplayer.

 

I suspect it might be something to do with the shadows of the aircraft.

 

I have a 1080Ti on a 32" monitor and prior to this update I had no stutters on the same maps.

[=GM=GJL2]

I also experience some major hit's in performance. Although I am just using a laptop that in no way compares to the high end users here, I play Stalingrad and Moscow really well on ultra settings. I hope this is something that can be addressed in a future patch. I do not expect to get a new desktop anytime soon and my video making capabilities on Kuban result in a slightly choppy experience. Honestly, it seems like something that a few tweaks here or there could fix. Not that I know anything about developing or programming, I just feel like a few adjustments could make the Kuban map fluid for me.

what's your laptop rig？

[EisenWaffel]

My computer struggles getting stutters on Kuban flying very low in mountain areas, I figure it's because of the trees which made me think I would like more options to adjust graphics like reducing number of trees, increase or decrease tree spawn distance, reduce the quality of the trees (take out the highest LOD quality) Running in Low instead of Balanced graphics helps a little but it makes the game too ugly, I want to keep the quality of textures, terrain mesh etc, I already turn off grass and shadows, just want to optimize the trees because they look really detailed up close and there is so many of them on Kuban in places.

[Fang333333]

I believe it is the trees as well and it is a new computer. If other maps were as choppy I would lower settings but I am satisfied with performance, 18 fps is good enough for me average (I do peak much higher but at at least 18 fps does me fine). I am also speaking about single player, so it is not lag. It is strictly the Kuban map that is obviously getting low performance.

[JG1_Barton]

I have lowered my settings as low as they could go (uglier than 1946) and set my Nvidia card to pure performance and I still have stutters that at times make the game unplayable.  Mostly in areas where there are lots of airplanes or ground units.  Never had this before.  Used to play on high settings with no impact of performance even flying around areas that had multiple strike aircraft bombing targets and 20+ fighters.  

 

Rig: Intel 4790K. GTX 960 4GB, 16GB RAM

[Jade_Monkey]

Have you monitored the cpu and gpu usage?

 

With some tool like MSI afterburner, look at usage, frametimes, and other metrics to see what's happening with your gpu.

 

It could be that you are maxing out on vram, or that you have to set the nvidia drivers to max performance setting.

Edited October 24, 2017 by Jade_Monkey

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

This would be your issue, it's very clear even though the minimum requirements are just that, it's always good to go big. GTX 960 4GB, is not going to give you any great performance no matter how fast you try, 

[JG1_Barton]

I’ve thought about upgrading my video card as it has been going on two years for this card (and it was mid-range even then) but I never used to have this problem. I’ll check more of the gpu and cpu usage. Odd thing is that the FPS counter never goes below ~56 FPS even when it’s jittery and barely playable. Not sure what’s up with that.

[56RAF_Roblex]

I only have a GeForce1050 which part of the Nvidia 1000 range in the same way that a base Porsche 924 is part of the Porsche sports car range :-)     I have no stutters in Kuban in MP and it stays at a constant 60fps (capped).  I have 16gb RAM and a suboptimal hard drive.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

I’ve thought about upgrading my video card as it has been going on two years for this card (and it was mid-range even then) but I never used to have this problem. I’ll check more of the gpu and cpu usage. Odd thing is that the FPS counter never goes below ~56 FPS even when it’s jittery and barely playable. Not sure what’s up with that.

another thing that helps with the Stuters, and lag issues is

 

My current build which is old by standards now but still kicks ass, ASUS X-99 Deluxe, 1200 Corsair PSU, Corsair H100 Water Block, Video card EVGA GTX 1080, Ram DDR4-33000, Monitor Samsung 32 144hrz/1m/s, fast refresh rates. Keeping your system updated with the latest Windows updates, and driver updates.

 

and a good O/S registry cleaner, especially the reg cleaner that helps keep your O/S running like new.

 

oh and a really good SSD I bought a 2 TB one and its fast.

 

you really don't need a M.2 not for what we do.

 

hope this helps, build a system for quality and it will last you. I built this back in 2015 October.

 

another thing to consider is the Market just over built itself this year and prices will definitely drop in 2018.

 

 

 

Still keeping up with all this new stuff.

Edited October 26, 2017 by 71st_AH_Mastiff

[JG1_Barton]

I dropped the shadow quality down and my rig is doing well now. Going to mess with the settings and see what I can improve before it starts to bog down again. Looking into a new PC

[TheHoncho]

@II./JG1_Barton Please let me know what you came up with. I think I have the same problem as you do. I never had any problems on Kuban map before the patch. I am talking about ONLINE play. Last night on Battle of Kuban - each time I zoom in I get 10 to 15 fps only, and it takes 10 to 20 sec to recover. It is the same when I turn my head 180 to check 6.  And when I tried to fight down low, with around 10 planes involved, it was really unplayable.

Meanwhile, my game in singleplayer runs 120 fps when I turn vsync off.

But as I am mostly online player, I would love to know if anyone figured out how to fix this.

My rig: GTX 1050, Intel I5-4460, 12 gigs or DDR3 ram.

[TWC_Ace]

I have a new rig (gtx1060, 3.5 Hgz cpu , 2400 MHz 8GB Ram, 1080p monitor) and I have a lots of stutters both online and offline. It WAS butter smooth before this update. So its definitely a game. Looking at the 3001 feedback topic - Im not the only one.....uhhh

[KG200_Volker]

I am at work now, later I will post all my settings after 3001 which run with least hiccups.

[69th_Ustio]

i'm having the same issues as well in the Kuban. it used to be 50 when im flying low tree top level and 90 when im flying high. now it goes down to 25 .

 

my guess is the trees are the ones that cause the low frame rate. 

 

my specs are 

I7-6700HQ

GTX960M(laptop)

16GB RAM

[CROM_NOR]

I have an old PC, but the game has always been running great with approx 50-60fps. However, with the Kuban(lots of trees or sea) the fps fell from 55-60 to approx 20-25 fps and giving lots of studders..

 

I tested single player flight(not online) with no enemies and was the same fps drop as flying online.. Stalingrad, Moscow, Velikiluki works great, and just have to steer away from servers launching a Kuban map. In the beginning I got confused and irritated, loosing some of the fun of flying.. but ok now as I understand its only two maps issue..

 

Would be great to be able to tune down amount of trees or whatever that kills the fps..

 

[JaimeSP]

On 10/26/2017 at 12:37 AM, 56RAF_Roblex said:

I only have a GeForce1050 which part of the Nvidia 1000 range in the same way that a base Porsche 924 is part of the Porsche sports car range ?    I have no stutters in Kuban in MP and it stays at a constant 60fps (capped).  I have 16gb RAM and a suboptimal hard drive.

Hi. Can you tell me your graphics

settings? I' ve got the same hdw.

Thanx

[56RAF_Roblex]

10 hours ago, JaimeSP said:

Hi. Can you tell me your graphics

settings? I' ve got the same hdw.

Thanx

 

After the last update I actually increased a couple of settings that would normally crucify a weak PC eg Shadows & Mirrors.  If these settings cause you problems then put those two down.  Mirrors are the worst.

[JaimeSP]

Excellent. Thanx! Do you have stuttering when mp? I usually don't, but on saturday in a private Server was awful.