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#1 YoYo

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 19:43

After success of Ju-52/3m (I hope) what do You think about idea of recon aircraft like it was in RoF (and separate recon/delivery - tasks/missions).
Its a good idea to create for example Fi-156 and Po-2 as collector planes.
 
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#2 150GCT_Veltro

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 19:44

Yes, absolutely.


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#3 Blooddawn1942

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 19:51

Would buy both immediatly!
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#4 Finkeren

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 20:09

Obviously. The Po-2 was bloody everywhere on the Eastern Front. It's almost a crime not to include it.
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#5 No601_Swallow

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 20:13

Just stop the holidays and days off for the 3D modellers and FM gurus. Easy.  :cool:

 

(Especially since the thrilling Ju52, I find myself hoping the devs continue to develop aspects of the sim that add something new to the gameplay. Recon is an obvious and seriously cool example!)

 

[Edit: Also, FSX/Prepar3D cannot be allowed to have the best Storch in flightsims. That Cannot Be!]


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#6 Gambit21

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 20:18

The Storch has been brought up numerous times. I think both aircraft would add much to the sim.
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#7 SvAF/F19_Tomten

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 20:22

Definitely! In some way I rather have these planes than the Bf 109 G6 and La-5FN, even though I don't plan on flying them myself. I want all the important aircrafts for the different roles in the air war.


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#8 Gambit21

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 20:26

Yep - with you on the G6.
There would be whining though.
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#9 4./JG52_Neun

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 20:32

I'd go for this as well.......


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#10 Blooddawn1942

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 21:02

I really would like to have an idea if the Ju-52 was succesful. If that´s the case, maybe we´ll see more of interesting "underdog" planes in the future.

A Storch would be just incredible.  Also a I-153 and a Po-2!!!


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#11 Gunsmith86

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 21:06

That would be great! :good:


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#12 FlyingNutcase

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 21:09

I very much enjoyed flying the Storch in '46 and had a lot of fun with STOL'ings with the wind mod. Very much for it here, with dedicated missions - recon, pickup/drop-offs. Like the Ju-52 it appeals to a different segment of the gaming base. Crossing fingers that he Ju-52 proved worthwhile.


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#13 JAGER_Staiger

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 21:21

Personally I would prefer the FW189 over the Storch, but hey, why not both ?  :)


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#14 [TWB]Krupski

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 21:43

I would buy both of these, easily.  :)


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Posted 30 December 2016 - 21:52

Not for me


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Posted 30 December 2016 - 21:59

The sim needs biplanes.

 

HS 123 and I-153.

 

I would instantly purchase those.


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#17 Flying_Colander

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 23:57

Jumping on board for the Storch & Po. I have a soft spot for the ugly ducklings.

 

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#18 Blitzen

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 00:03

Totally agree...after the P-39 & the Hs-129 tho.... :clapping:


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 00:07

I can see a lot of uses for these, especially in multiplayer tasks.  I'd buy both immediately.


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 00:58

I'd buy both and I'd love to see them accompanied with matching gameplay elements for MP/SP.
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#21 216th_LuseKofte

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 01:13

I love it, both of them, but lets get the russian side a transport first, I go ballistic if a Storch is the first thing coming . It simply just too unbalanced


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 01:15

Would be fair enough to give the VVS a transport aircraft first. I hope the Ju-52 was profitable.
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#23 SuperCossack

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 02:23

I think it would be great to have all aspects of the air war represented in the game including recon, artillery spotting, transport, SAR etc

 

the war in the air was so much more than just airplanes shooting down other airplanes, the Ju-52 gives a taste of the more utilitarian side to the war which i think is quite interesting, so yes i think it is a good idea.


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#24 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 02:27

Would be fair enough to give the VVS a transport aircraft first. I hope the Ju-52 was profitable.

They shouldn't get a Transport, because they weren't as Pivotal as they were for Germany. The Po-2 was a more Prominent Multi Purpose Plane and far more important. 

 

They had so little use for Transports that they converted them to Bombers for Christs Sake. 

 

The Po-2 is the infamous Night Witches Plane. A do it all, Spotter, Ambulance, Harassment and Liason Plane. 

 

I know ChiefWH / Pinko should be all for it, it's basically a Social Justice Feminism Plane. So how about a fraudulent Po-2 Kickstarter?

 

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#25 216th_LuseKofte

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 10:58

I have to protest !!!!!!!!

 

The JU 52 is not pivotal the way battles are played out here. The LI 2 was a very important plane for Russia, but just not in the same desperate degree as the German. I have no problem about getting a PO 2 . But you are really in thin ice saying transport planes was not important. 

This game are more and more a playground for luftwaffe Russian side got mediocre Fighters and that is all, it might be historical, but they had transport and level bombers too. And  you simply do not talk for everybody with

hey shouldn't get a Transport
 

Wtf


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#26 F/JG300_Touch

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 11:02

Yew for Po2 yes for Storch. I want them all.
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#27 [PUAF]W_Schulz

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 11:25

Hallo

 

Yes that is good idea but:

 

This is my idea (proposition) Those plane will be very good as a  in multiplayer mode  First if  you wana find key position on the map , you have to use reccon plane . After that will be visible on map. 

Second transport mission Every airfield on map have some points of resource (Gasolin, Ammo etc.) .When example resource its  clouse to zero, players must refill this points (some like resuply mission) and after this airfield operate normal. 

 

 

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#28 Mesha44

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 13:03

I would buy both.


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 13:11

both and a Dc-3 :P
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#30 216th_LuseKofte

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 13:22

Yes I think we are in for these planes at some point, I can see a growing interest for this sim over at DCS community, the possibilities for compatibility to VR and Pasific has risen considerable interest. I think in terms of budget they will have capacity to build all these planes in a few years. Given they are going back to east front. 

PO-2 , Storch and DC3 was used even after WW2 and is fr many a icon for the conflict. 


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 13:25

Would be fair enough to give the VVS a transport aircraft first. I hope the Ju-52 was profitable.

 

Personally I feel this is harder to quantify than it seems

 

On first thought it is easy, how many units did it sell, and does this justify the amount of time/work/research/modelling spent

 

however I feel there is much more, even for people who have not bought it, it appears to have generated a lot of 'goodwill' feeling and 'publicity' which may or may not translate to overall interest and sales of the base product.

 

The new features have added overall to the game, and will be enjoyed and used/experienced by all making the whole product more attractive even to people who will never buy of fly the JU-52

 

I hope that the 'perceived ' popular reception, as well as pure sales, encourage more diverse aircraft to be released, not just pure fighters and bombers

 

this variety was one of the big draws of original IL-2 and maybe one of the reasons for its overall popularity

 

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#32 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 13:41

I have to protest !!!!!!!!

 

The JU 52 is not pivotal the way battles are played out here. The LI 2 was a very important plane for Russia, but just not in the same desperate degree as the German. I have no problem about getting a PO 2 . But you are really in thin ice saying transport planes was not important. 

This game are more and more a playground for luftwaffe Russian side got mediocre Fighters and that is all, it might be historical, but they had transport and level bombers too. And  you simply do not talk for everybody with

 

 

 

Wtf

You're just Mansplaining. The Po-2 is the proper Choice. 

 

The DC-3 is also no good at STOL Performance, having the same empty weight weight Performance as a fully laden Ju-52.


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#33 Ropalcz

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 13:59

PO-2 , Storch and DC3 was used even after WW2

So was G-6 (Yugoslavia, Finland, Switzerland etc.). :)

I was just waiting till someone comes up with an idea to discard G-6 because of Po-2 or something else. We need G-6, because it was the most produced 109.

I would vote for FW-189 instead of Storch, because it could be used as a recon plane, a light bomber (4xSC 50) or could be equipped with two 20 mm cannons ( i think those were used as night fighters against attacks of Night Witches) :)

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 14:02

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Not exactly a runwayhog.....re STOL, 300M ground roll  :biggrin:

 

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#35 II/JG17_HerrMurf

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 14:45

I like the idea but for MUCH later. I'd rather they flesh out the game mechanics and aircraft for the supply side of things first. Spotting and recon will require new game mechanics (I know it is in ROF) and would take away from what is currently being worked on. I can see spotting and recon being very important in the Midway module too though.


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#36 1./TG1_Nil

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 14:50

A combo Storch/po2/fw189 ? I would buy it and use it.

But first, a c47 or Li2 which will be used in Pacific as well. 


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#37 216th_LuseKofte

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 17:53

You're just Mansplaining. The Po-2 is the proper Choice. 

 

The DC-3 is also no good at STOL Performance, having the same empty weight weight Performance as a fully laden Ju-52.

 

 

I think when you fly luftwaffe and enjoy the JU 52 it is pretty much to ask for not having A transport for Russian side. Yes you like the PO 2 and so do I . I just think you are quite arrogant refusing red side a transport as well. We do not have a proper level bomber, and you guys say , you got the PE 2.

And now you want to play around with PO 2 I get it. But Russian side need other things too , and you are directly lying about the importance of transport planes. All nations lacked Transports, there where never enough of them for anyone


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 17:56

I think when you fly luftwaffe and enjoy the JU 52 it is pretty much to ask for not having A transport for Russian side. Yes you like the PO 2 and so do I . I just think you are quite arrogant refusing red side a transport as well. We do not have a proper level bomber, and you guys say , you got the PE 2.

And now you want to play around with PO 2 I get it. But Russian side need other things too , and you are directly lying about the importance of transport planes. All nations lacked Transports, there where never enough of them for anyone

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 19:31

Mansplaining?

 

Really?

 

You went there?

 

I think I won't be taking anything you say seriously any more from now on.

 

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 19:55

 I can see spotting and recon being very important in the Midway module too though.

 

Important in a "don't even bother without it" kind of way - arguably.

Thus my guess is that they'll be moving on getting that up and running with Kuban as they'll have enough on their plate

with the other game mechanics where Midway is concerned.


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