YoYo Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 After success of Ju-52/3m (I hope) what do You think about idea of recon aircraft like it was in RoF (and separate recon/delivery - tasks/missions). Its a good idea to create for example Fi-156 and Po-2 as collector planes. (shots taken in Prepar3Dv3) 13
Finkeren Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 Obviously. The Po-2 was bloody everywhere on the Eastern Front. It's almost a crime not to include it.
No601_Swallow Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) Just stop the holidays and days off for the 3D modellers and FM gurus. Easy. (Especially since the thrilling Ju52, I find myself hoping the devs continue to develop aspects of the sim that add something new to the gameplay. Recon is an obvious and seriously cool example!) [Edit: Also, FSX/Prepar3D cannot be allowed to have the best Storch in flightsims. That Cannot Be!] Edited December 30, 2016 by No601_Swallow
Gambit21 Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 The Storch has been brought up numerous times. I think both aircraft would add much to the sim.
SvAF/F19_Tomten Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 Definitely! In some way I rather have these planes than the Bf 109 G6 and La-5FN, even though I don't plan on flying them myself. I want all the important aircrafts for the different roles in the air war. 1
Gambit21 Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 Yep - with you on the G6. There would be whining though.
Blooddawn1942 Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 I really would like to have an idea if the Ju-52 was succesful. If that´s the case, maybe we´ll see more of interesting "underdog" planes in the future. A Storch would be just incredible. Also a I-153 and a Po-2!!! 2
FlyingNutcase Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 I very much enjoyed flying the Storch in '46 and had a lot of fun with STOL'ings with the wind mod. Very much for it here, with dedicated missions - recon, pickup/drop-offs. Like the Ju-52 it appeals to a different segment of the gaming base. Crossing fingers that he Ju-52 proved worthwhile.
Willy__ Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 Personally I would prefer the FW189 over the Storch, but hey, why not both ? 2
BlitzPig_EL Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) The sim needs biplanes. HS 123 and I-153. I would instantly purchase those. Edited December 30, 2016 by BlitzPig_EL
Flying_Colander Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 Jumping on board for the Storch & Po. I have a soft spot for the ugly ducklings. Cheers, Flying Colander
Blitzen Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Totally agree...after the P-39 & the Hs-129 tho....
Feathered_IV Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 I can see a lot of uses for these, especially in multiplayer tasks. I'd buy both immediately.
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 I'd buy both and I'd love to see them accompanied with matching gameplay elements for MP/SP.
Lusekofte Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 I love it, both of them, but lets get the russian side a transport first, I go ballistic if a Storch is the first thing coming . It simply just too unbalanced 1
Blooddawn1942 Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Would be fair enough to give the VVS a transport aircraft first. I hope the Ju-52 was profitable. 1
SuperCossack Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 I think it would be great to have all aspects of the air war represented in the game including recon, artillery spotting, transport, SAR etc the war in the air was so much more than just airplanes shooting down other airplanes, the Ju-52 gives a taste of the more utilitarian side to the war which i think is quite interesting, so yes i think it is a good idea. 1
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) Would be fair enough to give the VVS a transport aircraft first. I hope the Ju-52 was profitable. They shouldn't get a Transport, because they weren't as Pivotal as they were for Germany. The Po-2 was a more Prominent Multi Purpose Plane and far more important. They had so little use for Transports that they converted them to Bombers for Christs Sake. The Po-2 is the infamous Night Witches Plane. A do it all, Spotter, Ambulance, Harassment and Liason Plane. I know ChiefWH / Pinko should be all for it, it's basically a Social Justice Feminism Plane. So how about a fraudulent Po-2 Kickstarter? Edited December 31, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann 1 1
Lusekofte Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 I have to protest !!!!!!!! The JU 52 is not pivotal the way battles are played out here. The LI 2 was a very important plane for Russia, but just not in the same desperate degree as the German. I have no problem about getting a PO 2 . But you are really in thin ice saying transport planes was not important. This game are more and more a playground for luftwaffe Russian side got mediocre Fighters and that is all, it might be historical, but they had transport and level bombers too. And you simply do not talk for everybody with hey shouldn't get a Transport Wtf 1 1
JG300_Olrik Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Yew for Po2 yes for Storch. I want them all.
W_Schulz Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Hallo Yes that is good idea but: This is my idea (proposition) Those plane will be very good as a in multiplayer mode First if you wana find key position on the map , you have to use reccon plane . After that will be visible on map. Second transport mission Every airfield on map have some points of resource (Gasolin, Ammo etc.) .When example resource its clouse to zero, players must refill this points (some like resuply mission) and after this airfield operate normal. Sorry for my English
Lusekofte Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Yes I think we are in for these planes at some point, I can see a growing interest for this sim over at DCS community, the possibilities for compatibility to VR and Pasific has risen considerable interest. I think in terms of budget they will have capacity to build all these planes in a few years. Given they are going back to east front. PO-2 , Storch and DC3 was used even after WW2 and is fr many a icon for the conflict. 1
Dakpilot Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Would be fair enough to give the VVS a transport aircraft first. I hope the Ju-52 was profitable. Personally I feel this is harder to quantify than it seems On first thought it is easy, how many units did it sell, and does this justify the amount of time/work/research/modelling spent however I feel there is much more, even for people who have not bought it, it appears to have generated a lot of 'goodwill' feeling and 'publicity' which may or may not translate to overall interest and sales of the base product. The new features have added overall to the game, and will be enjoyed and used/experienced by all making the whole product more attractive even to people who will never buy of fly the JU-52 I hope that the 'perceived ' popular reception, as well as pure sales, encourage more diverse aircraft to be released, not just pure fighters and bombers this variety was one of the big draws of original IL-2 and maybe one of the reasons for its overall popularity Cheers Dakpilot
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) I have to protest !!!!!!!! The JU 52 is not pivotal the way battles are played out here. The LI 2 was a very important plane for Russia, but just not in the same desperate degree as the German. I have no problem about getting a PO 2 . But you are really in thin ice saying transport planes was not important. This game are more and more a playground for luftwaffe Russian side got mediocre Fighters and that is all, it might be historical, but they had transport and level bombers too. And you simply do not talk for everybody with Wtf You're just Mansplaining. The Po-2 is the proper Choice. The DC-3 is also no good at STOL Performance, having the same empty weight weight Performance as a fully laden Ju-52. Edited December 31, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann 1
Ropalcz Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) PO-2 , Storch and DC3 was used even after WW2So was G-6 (Yugoslavia, Finland, Switzerland etc.). I was just waiting till someone comes up with an idea to discard G-6 because of Po-2 or something else. We need G-6, because it was the most produced 109. I would vote for FW-189 instead of Storch, because it could be used as a recon plane, a light bomber (4xSC 50) or could be equipped with two 20 mm cannons ( i think those were used as night fighters against attacks of Night Witches) Edited December 31, 2016 by Ropalcz
Dakpilot Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Not exactly a runwayhog.....re STOL, 300M ground roll Cheers Dakpilot
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) I like the idea but for MUCH later. I'd rather they flesh out the game mechanics and aircraft for the supply side of things first. Spotting and recon will require new game mechanics (I know it is in ROF) and would take away from what is currently being worked on. I can see spotting and recon being very important in the Midway module too though. Edited December 31, 2016 by II/JG17_HerrMurf
Nil Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 A combo Storch/po2/fw189 ? I would buy it and use it. But first, a c47 or Li2 which will be used in Pacific as well.
Lusekofte Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) You're just Mansplaining. The Po-2 is the proper Choice. The DC-3 is also no good at STOL Performance, having the same empty weight weight Performance as a fully laden Ju-52. I think when you fly luftwaffe and enjoy the JU 52 it is pretty much to ask for not having A transport for Russian side. Yes you like the PO 2 and so do I . I just think you are quite arrogant refusing red side a transport as well. We do not have a proper level bomber, and you guys say , you got the PE 2. And now you want to play around with PO 2 I get it. But Russian side need other things too , and you are directly lying about the importance of transport planes. All nations lacked Transports, there where never enough of them for anyone Edited December 31, 2016 by 216th_LuseKofte 1
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 I think when you fly luftwaffe and enjoy the JU 52 it is pretty much to ask for not having A transport for Russian side. Yes you like the PO 2 and so do I . I just think you are quite arrogant refusing red side a transport as well. We do not have a proper level bomber, and you guys say , you got the PE 2. And now you want to play around with PO 2 I get it. But Russian side need other things too , and you are directly lying about the importance of transport planes. All nations lacked Transports, there where never enough of them for anyone Il-4>Po-2>Li-2
BlitzPig_EL Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Mansplaining? Really? You went there? I think I won't be taking anything you say seriously any more from now on. Good DAY sir!
Gambit21 Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 I can see spotting and recon being very important in the Midway module too though. Important in a "don't even bother without it" kind of way - arguably. Thus my guess is that they'll be moving on getting that up and running with Kuban as they'll have enough on their plate with the other game mechanics where Midway is concerned.
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