Calling 780's owners to find a real solution to update 2006 and NVIDIA drivers

[Ala13_knightcrow]

So that would be really good news!! Has anybody else tried Nvidia's new driver?

 

looking forward to hearing from you,

Ala13_knightcrow

[fdswer]

I am getting some weird cloud glitch its only when you are flying in clouds though.

[E69_Chipi]

I had crashes with the old drivers.

I did two 30min flights with no crashes so far... Did not have the glitch when flying in clouds.

A fix for Il-2 was not listed on the release notes though.

Tonight I'll do some more testing...

 

[Ala13_knightcrow]

I was that happy listening to good news from you, that i thought of giving it a try...so I installed latest driver from NVIDIA 378.49 . I've been flying BOS for 45 minutes, nicely until unfourtunatelly I got a sudden black screen... :-( ... again going back to old 368.81   :-( :-(

 

kind regards,

Ala13_knightcrow

Edited January 25, 2017 by Ala13_knightcrow

[KoN_]

PLEASE try 362.00.

[Ala13_knightcrow]

PLEASE try 362.00.

What would the advantage of dowgrading to 362.00 vs 368.81 be?

Edited January 25, 2017 by Ala13_knightcrow

[E69_Chipi]

I was that happy listening to good news from you, that i thought of giving it a try...so I installed latest driver from NVIDIA 378.49 . I've been flying BOS for 45 minutes, nicely until unfourtunatelly I got a sudden black screen... :-( ... again going back to old 368.81   :-( :-(

 

kind regards,

Ala13_knightcrow

Same here, crashes are not fixed. The only took longer....

[KoN_]

What would the advantage of dowgrading to 362.00 vs 368.81 be?

Not all latest drivers work with older cards some times older drivers work better . 

[Ala13_knightcrow]

As it was mentioned before, updating drivers is not a fashion. There are some other products that work only with updated drivers. For example I spent some money buying Battlefield-1 which is not compatible with old drivers. As far as I prefer flying IL-2 BOS, and BOM it's a long time i cannot launch that game i bought (as you can imaging If i wanna fly il2 i have to use old NVIDIA drivers as i own a EVGA GTX780 OC ACX). This is a card capable of providing estable 60FPS at MAX settings at il-2 BOS so I wouldn't say it obsolete. So consider this type of things before anyone suggesting that there're people who likes complaining for no reason, just for the sake of being early drivers adopters...and all they have to do is use old drivers and stop whining.

 

Kind regards,

Ala13_Knightcrow

[Ala13_knightcrow]

Has anybody with a 780 tried latest NVIDIA drivers with update 2007 ? blackscreens?

 

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Ala13_knightcrow

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Wait for NVidia to announce changes in their driver change log or wait for 777/1CGS to list something in theirs.

 

Both parties have heard you.

[Gambit21]

Still not one problem ever with my 780.

I listed my driver above.

 

Fortunately I don't have to worry about running other games at the moment.

[Ala13_knightcrow]

no news...bad news?

 

Kind regards,

Ala13_knightcrow

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Did you see any mention of it in NVidia or 777/1CGS' patch notes?

 

Than no. 

[Capt_Stubing]

Nada

[Grancesc]

Since the 2.007 patch I had occasionally crashes with the driver version 368.81. I installed today the latest driver 378.49 (custom install, clean). After over an hour of tests on QME on the Stalingrad maps summer and autumn (max. planes, max ground targets) no crashes occurred. Hope dies last.

[Ala13_knightcrow]

Since the 2.007 patch I had occasionally crashes with the driver version 368.81. I installed today the latest driver 378.49 (custom install, clean). After over an hour of tests on QME on the Stalingrad maps summer and autumn (max. planes, max ground targets) no crashes occurred. Hope dies last.

 

 

 

Hello Grancesc, as you can see this Driver 378.49 is still causing crashes with v2007.. :

 

 

I was that happy listening to good news from you, that i thought of giving it a try...so I installed latest driver from NVIDIA 378.49 . I've been flying BOS for 45 minutes, nicely until unfourtunatelly I got a sudden black screen... :-( ... again going back to old 368.81   :-( :-(

 

kind regards,

Ala13_knightcrow

 

 

 

Same here, crashes are not fixed. The only took longer....

 

 

 

Grancesc, Nice to hear that from you,  but, , maybe you haven't being flying for long long lasting missions....maybe it's solved for you ...

 

Kind regards,

Ala13_knighrcrow

[sport02]

_{I try last driver 378.49  and crash with my 780 ghz about five minutes several time I go to next 368.81}

_{a day i will not play with this game :}

_{- game crash when  touch affect}

_{- game crash when I kit the game}

_{- game crash i launch a mission}

_{- game crash with new driver card}

 

_{I try to install It on other dd sector and it's the same issue .}  

Edited February 11, 2017 by sport02

[Apache600]

368.81 is working well for me ... but now every time I turn off my computer, and turn it back on, Nvidia automatically updates to 37X.XX   so damn annoying!

[Grancesc]

Hello Grancesc, as you can see this Driver 378.49 is still causing crashes with v2007.. :

 

 

Grancesc, Nice to hear that from you,  but, , maybe you haven't being flying for long long lasting missions....maybe it's solved for you ...

 

Kind regards,

Ala13_knighrcrow

 

No, unfortunately, the problem is not fixed. I still have CTDs with the latest driver. Approximately every one and a half hours I have one. But also with the driver version 368.81 I had occasional crashes. I hope that nVIDIA is finally pushing forward with resolving this problem.

[Venturi]

I suspect that the root of the problem is the 780ti is competing with newer video cards which do not perform much more, yet cost much more.

 

Use 368.81, google "nvidia driver cleaner" to roll it back. It is actually not too easy to do but can be successful with a good freeware program for this.

 

I am of the philosophy that one should "stand behind one's name" - if your product is out there, so is your reputation.

 

Unfortunately, I am often labelled "old school" by the MBA types for this. But I guess that is why I am in a different profession.

[Ala13_knightcrow]

New Driver 378.66 from Nvidia, Did anybody give it a try with v2007?

 

 

Kind regards,

Ala13_knighrcrow

[Capt_Stubing]

It mentions nothing about IL2 in the notes so I'm not holding my breath.  Upgrading anyways just to see if by magic it was fixed

[FuriousMeow]

No fix mentioned, and no new SLI profile for DX11 either - so chances are nil there. More people need to hit up their customer care to get the changes implemented.

Edited February 15, 2017 by FuriousMeow

[mort]

368.81 is working well for me ... but now every time I turn off my computer, and turn it back on, Nvidia automatically updates to 37X.XX so damn annoying!

In my case it was Windows Update that kept re-upgrading it. I was able to prevent it using the instructions linked below.

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3073930/how-to-temporarily-prevent-a-driver-update-from-reinstalling-in-windows-10

[Grancesc]

New Driver 378.66 from Nvidia, Did anybody give it a try with v2007?

 

 

Kind regards,

Ala13_knighrcrow

 

I've tried the new driver 378.66. This one generates even more crashes than all other drivers before (every 5-10 min a CTD). I agree with FuriousMeow more people need to badger nVIDIA's customer care.

[Ala13_knightcrow]

If Nvidia does nothing... May 1C team implement a workaround for us, please???  It's 2 months... we're suffering CTD when using updated drivers.. This shouldn't be considered as a solved issue (Could 1C think that we're just a few and it's not worthy to deliver something taking care of us?).... we are really fans of 1C... in my case i've bought BOS, BOM, preordered BOC, bought some extra planes... it's not fair that I'll be needing to be keeping my laptop outdated and not to be able to play other games that need updated drivers.....

 

I'm wishing to hear from your thoughts....

 

kind regards,

Ala13_knighrcrow

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

If Nvidia does nothing... May 1C team implement a workaround for us, please???  It's 2 months... we're suffering CTD when using updated drivers.. This shouldn't be considered as a solved issue (Could 1C think that we're just a few and it's not worthy to deliver something taking care of us?).... we are really fans of 1C... in my case i've bought BOS, BOM, preordered BOC, bought some extra planes... it's not fair that I'll be needing to be keeping my laptop outdated and not to be able to play other games that need updated drivers.....

 

I'm wishing to hear from your thoughts....

 

kind regards,

Ala13_knighrcrow

 

Yeah, they should just roll everything back to DX9 for you.

 

/s

 

Patience, man... Patience...

[FuriousMeow]

If Nvidia does nothing... May 1C team implement a workaround for us, please???  It's 2 months... we're suffering CTD when using updated drivers.. This shouldn't be considered as a solved issue (Could 1C think that we're just a few and it's not worthy to deliver something taking care of us?).... we are really fans of 1C... in my case i've bought BOS, BOM, preordered BOC, bought some extra planes... it's not fair that I'll be needing to be keeping my laptop outdated and not to be able to play other games that need updated drivers.....

 

I'm wishing to hear from your thoughts....

 

kind regards,

Ala13_knighrcrow

 

This isn't on 1C, this is on nVidia. I have two 780Tis, I haven't played in a while because of it but I will wait because nVidia needs to fix it. Bug nVidia, that will get it fixed.

[Monostripezebra]

I just updated my driver (because I needed that for another program) to the latest version 378.66 and the game crashes in the following way:

 

Screen goes black but sound indicates the program runs on (I can hear guns if I fire after black screen) until it all freezes up. A wild guess would be memory leak

 

when I fiddled around with the graphics options I could briefly see (but not screencap, due to crashed driver) an errormessage saying something like "unhandled exception while loading bridge"-something. So the loading of 3d objects or textures is involved in this problem.

 

This isn't on 1C, this is on nVidia. I have two 780Tis, I haven't played in a while because of it but I will wait because nVidia needs to fix it. Bug nVidia, that will get it fixed.

 

No it is not that clear which side bears bug responsibility.. I kind of suspect both a bit. The bug appeared with a certain version of BoS, so I would really apreciate if the Devs could have a look into the matter, I truely think that texture loading could also be improved overall, as when you turn your view in BoS you always get the belated re-skinning of other planes, which is a good indication of things not beeing optimized...

Edited February 18, 2017 by Monostripezebra

[DD_Arthur]

 I truely think that texture loading could also be improved overall, as when you turn your view in BoS you always get the belated re-skinning of other planes, which is a good indication of things not beeing optimized...

 

Thats interesting Dr. Z.  I still get that in RoF but it no longer happens in BoS since we went to DX11.  Got a GTX770 here.

 

Does this happen for other guys using 780's? 

[hirondo]

I just updated my driver (because I needed that for another program) to the latest version 378.66 and the game crashes in the following way:

 

Screen goes black but sound indicates the program runs on (I can hear guns if I fire after black screen) until it all freezes up. A wild guess would be memory leak

 

when I fiddled around with the graphics options I could briefly see (but not screencap, due to crashed driver) an errormessage saying something like "unhandled exception while loading bridge"-something. So the loading of 3d objects or textures is involved in this problem.

 

 

No it is not that clear which side bears bug responsibility.. I kind of suspect both a bit. The bug appeared with a certain version of BoS, so I would really apreciate if the Devs could have a look into the matter, I truely think that texture loading could also be improved overall, as when you turn your view in BoS you always get the belated re-skinning of other planes, which is a good indication of things not beeing optimized...

 

According to the reaction of nVIDIA to the various GTX780 driver complaints, it was left open whether the problem is not also caused by the DX11 implementation of BOS. It would be welcomed, if also 1C/777 studios could once again look at the matter.

Edited February 18, 2017 by Llopgris

[FuriousMeow]

No it is not that clear which side bears bug responsibility.. I kind of suspect both a bit. The bug appeared with a certain version of BoS, so I would really apreciate if the Devs could have a look into the matter, I truely think that texture loading could also be improved overall, as when you turn your view in BoS you always get the belated re-skinning of other planes, which is a good indication of things not beeing optimized...

 

No, it is nVidia 100%. It works on an older driver set. It no longer works with newer drivers. That means it is on nVidia 100%. It also only impacts one of their chipsets, the 780 and 780Ti, but the rest work fine - there is something they missed in the DX11 pipeline for this chipset in the newer drivers. Doesn't take a whole lot of thought process to figure that out. Again, bug nVidia customer care since the more that do the more information they get and make it easier to resolve it.

 

I'm betting the 780s were pushed too far being spec'd out and some driver change nVidia made doesn't work with the 780 and 780Ti but works with the rest of the 700 series. Look at the dev post, other developers of other titles are having the same issue with 780s and DX11. It is incredibly clear who bears the responsibility.

 

Although, if a 1080Ti comes out before nVidia fixes their drivers then I'll be picking that up anyway. It's still on nVidia to fix the drivers, it is all theirs to fix.

 

As far as optimization, you are just making assumptions.

Edited February 19, 2017 by FuriousMeow

[Ala13_knightcrow]

No, it is nVidia 100%. It works on an older driver set. It no longer works with newer drivers. That means it is on nVidia 100%. It also only impacts one of their chipsets, the 780 and 780Ti, but the rest work fine - there is something they missed in the DX11 pipeline for this chipset in the newer drivers. Doesn't take a whole lot of thought process to figure that out. Again, bug nVidia customer care since the more that do the more information they get and make it easier to resolve it.

 

I'm betting the 780s were pushed too far being spec'd out and some driver change nVidia made doesn't work with the 780 and 780Ti but works with the rest of the 700 series. Look at the dev post, other developers of other titles are having the same issue with 780s and DX11. It is incredibly clear who bears the responsibility.

 

Although, if a 1080Ti comes out before nVidia fixes their drivers then I'll be picking that up anyway. It's still on nVidia to fix the drivers, it is all theirs to fix.

 

As far as optimization, you are just making assumptions.

 

There's somebody in Ala13 squad with a 760 who was also suffering from these CTD so he also had to downgrade his drivers to fly without CTD's.

 

Kind Regards,

Ala13_knightcrow

Edited February 20, 2017 by Ala13_knightcrow

[Ala13_knightcrow]

no news... from any side

[Bubbled]

Hi!

I'm italian and translate this, with Google translate. Excuse me for the english.

I bought the game last week. and also I have your problems with geforce 780. I can say that before he left me I could crash the game we play for three days without any problems and I had the old 2-year driver ago because I had not done no link update. Suddenly the game began to crash and I tried like you to replace the video card driver, but without good results. I can say that in the three days of purchase had the video card driver as output from the factory two years ago, so very old.

Sorry for the english!

Edited March 5, 2017 by Bubbled

[Grancesc]

Hi!

I'm italian and translate this, with Google translate. Excuse me for the english.

I bought the game last week. and also I have your problems with geforce 780. I can say that before he left me I could crash the game we play for three days without any problems and I had the old 2-year driver ago because I had not done no link update. Suddenly the game began to crash and I tried like you to replace the video card driver, but without good results. I can say that in the three days of purchase had the video card driver as output from the factory two years ago, so very old.

Sorry for the english!

 

 

The most stable driver version seems to be 368.81. Please see below the suggestions of the developers:

 

As we have supposed before - it is NVidia problem and it is depends on driver version. So we have tried this solution and it works good - on our 780 game become to work stable for hours.

Uninstall completely all NVidia software and drivers (using Control Panel, Programs and Features), install NVidia driver version 368.81:

Windows 10 64-bit:

http://www.nvidia.co...px/105037/en-us

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, Windows 8 64-bit:

http://www.nvidia.co...px/105033/en-us

 

[J5_Adam]

Hi guys, I'm relatively new to the forum but have owned BoS since before it's release and most recently took advantage of the 40% sale in BoM.

I use an 27" iMac with a 780M (mobile) and bootcamp on Win7 and I've never had an issue with crashes. It's a mobility card and I don't think it's been updated in a very long time.... since I bought the computer in 2013/14.

I do however get the normal stutters in MP that people complain about and actually more since the DX11 update.

 

My driver version is 6.1.7600.16385

Edited March 5, 2017 by Adam

[Bubbled]

Hello guys,

I may have discovered something ....

Initially, during the first minutes of the game, the game will freeze much more easily ... (about the first 3-4 min).

Trying and trying it seems that the more the game is restarted after blocking the greater the playing time and the card is able to support the workload ... probably because it increases the temperature of the video card ??? I want to try to heat up the video card with another game (which requires commitment very graphic) and play 15 minutes and then move on to the 2 Sturmovik ... will let you know ...    

[Bubbled]

no, I said bullshit ... sorry ...