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#1 -=PHX=-Spartan-

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Posted 27 November 2016 - 18:36

What about a gore option with blood spashing inside the cockpit and also visible from outside?

 

This would give the sim extra realism.  :cool:

 

Type of improvement: Gore Option
Explanation of proposals: B
lood spashing inside the cockpit and also visible from outside
Benefits: Extra realism


Edited by =CAD=Spartan_, 27 November 2016 - 20:45.

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#2 LukeFF

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 05:20

No
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#3 Hoots

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 09:26

I struggle how this would improve the game in anyway. And no, splashing red paint around wouldn't add realism.
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#4 FFS_Cybermat47

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 10:44

It would take effort away from new aircraft and maps, so I don't think it's very important to be honest. The blood-spattered screen we have right now is fine.
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#5 307_Tomcat

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 12:09

Wait for mods on mode.
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#6 -=PHX=-Spartan-

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 12:26

Well, I disagree. In other games such as Rome Total War, Sniper Elite, etc. this option is there. Honestly, I just don´t feel like discussing this issue over and over.

If you think it not worthy I cannot do anything, I'm just a shopper  :rolleyes: and my only power is to decide what to buy and what not to buy.

Maybe, what Tomcat suggests in MODs is not a bad idea.


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#7 SJ_Butcher

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 12:30

I will really like to see an option like that, not too exaggerated but at least an option, It shouldn't be so hard to add a few paint red marks.


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#8 Trooper117

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 16:15

No... this isn't an arcade FPS game


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#9 -=PHX=-Spartan-

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 22:33

Do you dare a poll?  :P


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 22:43

I think, I am agree with Loft, when he said - "It need to totally replace a brain with pop-corn, to be able to ask a blood in flight simulator. Its not a Hollywood."


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#11 307_Tomcat

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 09:49

No... this isn't an arcade FPS game

Since when blood/gore belongs to particual genre? I know poit and click games with it...

I think, I am agree with Loft, when he said - "It need to totally replace a brain with pop-corn, to be able to ask a blood in flight simulator. Its not a Hollywood."

What Hollywood has to do with it?? If so - smoke and explosion should not be in BOS - they are Hollywood for sure too...

Edited by 307_Tomcat, 29 November 2016 - 10:51.

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#12 TP_Silk

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 11:36

Sorry guys. IMO this would be completely unnecessary and a waste of developer resources. I could go further, but we're supposed to keep it nice towards each other around here.


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#13 MF-beepee

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 11:41

If so - smoke and explosion should not be in BOS - they are Hollywood for sure too...

 

Whut??

 

You mean to tell me World War Two era aircraft never smoked of exploded when they were shot at?


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 11:43

No.
If you want to pretend to kill people that's up to you, but I suspect that for the majority here it's more a matter of skill in aircraft against aircraft.
Blood and gore is all over the real world; it's not required to enjoy playing a game.
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#15 307_Tomcat

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 11:50

Whut??

You mean to tell me World War Two era aircraft never smoked of exploded when they were shot at?


Gosh, and you are telling me that there were no blood spill during ww2 ?
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#16 MF-beepee

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 12:09

Gosh, and you are telling me that there were no blood spill during ww2 ?

 

 

I do not believe I mentioned blood at all.


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#17 Trupobaw

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 12:13

No

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 12:40

Mods will enable this: if anyone really wants it, they can make it themselves.

 

The only point of it I can see might be for occasional shock or comic effect in a film, hardly worth the developers' time.


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 12:57

A question asked and a consensus given :) time for bed.


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#20 307_Tomcat

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 13:02

I do not believe I mentioned blood at all.


Please read with understanding - the whole point was about what has Hollywood movie, not what happend during the war! More specific - one can't arguing and pick up one thing ( blood) and say that is to Hoolywood-ish and because of that do not implement this in game... becouse same things concerns the explosions and the smoke !!
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#21 MF-beepee

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 16:07

More specific - one can't arguing and pick up one thing ( blood) and say that is to Hoolywood-ish and because of that do not implement this in game... becouse same things concerns the explosions and the smoke !!

 

That's the whole point I was trying to make.

 

I think we are arguing the same point(which is pointless), so let's just put it down to a misunderstanding on both sides and forget it.


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#22 307_Tomcat

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 18:23

That's the whole point I was trying to make.

I think we are arguing the same point(which is pointless), so let's just put it down to a misunderstanding on both sides and forget it.

Ok , but i did not fail, you just started arguing with rejected context of my whole post about Loft false statement which is crucial and without it no make sense at all.
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#23 Brano

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 18:37

Maybe smtg like this?  :biggrin:

 

 

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Edited by Brano, 29 November 2016 - 18:37.

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#24 unreasonable

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 20:24

Or like this?

 

youtube.com/watch?v=TzkVLp23uks


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#25 JG13_opcode

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 20:34

This would give the sim extra realism.


Would it, though? Just some red textures on the interior of the cockpit? I don't really agree.

Or are you also proposing that they simulate control problems due to the pilot being injured? For example, pilot get shot in the leg and can no longer use the rudder? Maybe that would add realism but I'm not sure that the added benefit would be worth the huge investment of time and money to develop it.
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#26 Trooper117

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 20:54

There is not one game anywhere that I have come across, that can properly and realistically portray the effects connected with high velocity projectile trauma and explosives, none...

There is nothing worse than seeing arcade gore in a game that is only there to make (usually young kids) think that it's 'realism'...

 

If they could actually witness or have been involved in any of the above they would be singing a different tune...


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#27 307_Tomcat

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 21:42

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#28 TP_Silk

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 22:58

There is not one game anywhere that I have come across, that can properly and realistically portray the effects connected with high velocity projectile trauma and explosives, none...

There is nothing worse than seeing arcade gore in a game that is only there to make (usually young kids) think that it's 'realism'...

 

If they could actually witness or have been involved in any of the above they would be singing a different tune...

 

There is an old adage that goes along the lines of the young and inexperienced see glory in blood and battle, and having seen it with their own eyes will have seen enough.


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#29 JG13_opcode

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 22:25

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 16:23

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https://youtu.be/QZq2_u1ZWf8?t=106

 

https://youtu.be/p319BHAm2AU?t=32


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... guns were too quiet when engine is running and speed is high, and there was no "immersion of fire and metal storm in 2 meters aside of me"


#31 readyred1

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 12:58

 

Wow, We must support this !!!


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Posted 07 December 2016 - 14:29

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https://youtu.be/p319BHAm2AU?t=32


Good grief. Everything about that game looks utterly horrible! What a mess. Keep it in the arcade where it belongs.
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#33 Space_Ghost

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 15:40

I'd sooner hope for a visual DM for the cockpit than some hokey gore.


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#34 Uufflakke

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 16:10

In the above examples it all looks like a Heinz Gorefest.

 

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 17:28

I saw some guys who rigged their controllers with electricity so that every time their guy got shot in the first person game they would get a shock to feel the pain.

 

I don't want to say a game such as this lessens what it must have been like to get shot by a bullet. I think anyone who has seen the news from modern wars knows what the type of gore and gruesome mutilations can look like. There were pit fires and I expect some people even got burnt alive as their plane went down, stuck and unable to get out.

 

I know the new doom game is probably the goriest game I've ever seen, but then that was the whole point of a game like that. We're playing games. We're not fighting real wars and, while we need to respect that wars are not a fun thing, many of the pilots ultimately enjoyed flying, just like many people like being in the army because of the life skills you make, the friends you make and the practice shooting. It's only when they have to go and actually shoot real people where it's suddenly not so fun any more and see your friends get killed.

 

We play the fun part of the war. We learn how they would have flown their planes and how they might have executed their attacks. We can live a small portion of what they had no choice on. Hitler had to be stopped. There was no other option for anyone in the world.

 

If, then there was added 'gore', I think a team could only do it justice by doing it as it should have been. Gruesome, disturbing and horrifying.

 

Kids, which this game is partially aimed at should be kept pure of such things as long as they can. For when you see real dead humans, know of dead friends who were once such full of life and dreams the reality is disturbing and haunting.

 

To glamorize war is to miss the point of war. To respect the deeds of the brave men and women who served and died so that we could live in peace free of oppression and tyranny is the best we can hope when we load this game and we shoot each other down with laughter and smiles.

 

Kids all think that war is a funny game. It is not till you loose someone that you realize the true value of life and the glorious feeling that is peace.


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#36 JG13_opcode

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 23:10

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That looks awful.
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#37 -=PHX=-Spartan-

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Posted 10 December 2016 - 19:05

That looks awful.

I cannot agree more. That is not what I was looking for ...  :(


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#38 II/JG17_HerrMurf

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Posted 10 December 2016 - 20:39

Just no!
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Posted 12 December 2016 - 20:33

Just no!

 

 

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#40 Heathpete

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 09:37

With 30 years as  paramedic under my belt I can say that there are some things that just don't need simulating.

To those that think this a good idea.........grow up!


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