Brano Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I dare to say that it is not placebo. Similar observations were reported in our Czech/Slovak comunity by experienced players.
VBF-12_Stick-95 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I just want to mention something that relates to those of us with MS FFB2 joysticks. Prior to this update I was having issues where I would receive continuous thumping of the FFB or where the FFB was too stiff or one axis had no FFB. If I held my joystick off center when entering the game the issue didn't seem to arise as often. If it did occur, I could correct it by doing an Alt-tab out and back into the game. Since the update, I do not seem to have this issue anymore. All seems to work as it should. I was wondering is this was specifically addressed in the update and just not mentioned in the notes. I know others have had this problem. Is it no longer an issue for others who had this happen?
FuriousMeow Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Well I was watching the airspeed indicator and snap stall at the same speeds as before.
JtD Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Stall speed is still the same. The auto-level disengages before stalling now, the AI doesn't end up spinning as often, but the actual flight model has not been changed.
FuriousMeow Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I'm not a programmer, but I wonder if the changes that they made with AI handling of those 2 planes spilled over to player-controlled? It was just the AI routine that was modified, not the FM. Instead of the AI going so high AoA, it goes less. No change to actual FM for that.
3./JG15_Kampf Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I flew so fw 190 and these are my impressions: - Greater control maneuvers, even at lower speeds - Even AoA - Greater warning before stal - Control smoother rudder, better skid - More efficient weapons somebody else has these impressions?
Jason_Williams Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Nothing has been done to the 190. You guys are imaging things. Jason 6
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Only two flights (one 1v1) in the 190 but I see no changes in the FM or weapons package.
3./JG15_Kampf Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Nothing has been done to the 190. You guys are imaging things. Jason placebo effect. only feelings
II/JG11_ATLAN_VR Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Nothing has been done to the 190. You guys are imaging things. Jason Sadly to say but that is exactly my experience so lets wait for the A5 Edited October 20, 2016 by II/JG11ATLAN
FuriousMeow Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) I made a hard landing, dug the nose of a LaGG-3 in trying to land with just elevator trim and throttle due to no elevator controls, and had the canopy open. When the plane dug the nose in, the canopy slammed forward and then flew back open when the nose came back up. Is that new this version? Or has that always been that way? Just to confirm, I did another quick test and the canopy again slammed forward but this time remained closed since the nose remained dug into the dirt. (Il-2 and La5 also do this because the canopies don't lock, hadn't noticed this before and bellied in quite a few Il-2s with the canopy open). I also like that the landing gear is finally not impervious to folding/breaking due to high lateral speed. Edited October 20, 2016 by FuriousMeow
150GCT_Veltro Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Thank for the update guys, and thank for the 110 fix (DM).
ITAF_Cymao Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Nothing has been done to the 190. You guys are imaging things. Jason As it happened for the patch 2.003? However my first impression is that the Focke was not worsened as had happened with the patch 2.003, and this is good news!
Hoots Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I made a hard landing, dug the nose of a LaGG-3 in trying to land with just elevator trim and throttle due to no elevator controls, and had the canopy open. When the plane dug the nose in, the canopy slammed forward and then flew back open when the nose came back up. Is that new this version? Or has that always been that way? Just to confirm, I did another quick test and the canopy again slammed forward but this time remained closed since the nose remained dug into the dirt. (Il-2 and La5 also do this because the canopies don't lock, hadn't noticed this before and bellied in quite a few Il-2s with the canopy open). I also like that the landing gear is finally not impervious to folding/breaking due to high lateral speed. Think that came in last patch. 1
Brano Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Ok,placebo and/or imagination.Now back to drinking
Jade_Monkey Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Yes, it just shows how subjective it can be. Im sure that all the hating in the forum has also skewed the perception of many. That doesnt mean the FM is perfect either.
[CPT]Pike*HarryM Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 "Old" and "new" flight model... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1l17h_benny-hill-sommelier_people 1
Brano Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I still have my positive feelings for both aircrafts being it placebo or alcohol withdrawal syndrome and not gonna kill myself over this nor argue and such. Freshly served beer in front of me. Cheers :D
FuriousMeow Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 That doesnt mean the FM is perfect either. None will be on a home computer until a home computer can build reality.
Beazil Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Looking forward to trying the new patch. Thanks for another timely update!
Art Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Nothing has been done to the 190. You guys are imaging things. Jason Still waiting for fix .. but good job.
MadisonV44 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Nothing has been done to the 190. You guys are imaging things. Jason I don't care since i'm no longer flying her but thanks for the information Jason A lot of player will appreciate and I won't waste precious time testing something that did not changed Disappointed anyway
Jade_Monkey Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 None will be on a home computer until a home computer can build reality. Don't pretend you didn't understand my point. I wasn't complaining either.
Lusekofte Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I made a hard landing, dug the nose of a LaGG-3 in trying to land with just elevator trim and throttle due to no elevator controls, and had the canopy open. When the plane dug the nose in, the canopy slammed forward and then flew back open when the nose came back up. Is that new this version? Or has that always been that way? Just to confirm, I did another quick test and the canopy again slammed forward but this time remained closed since the nose remained dug into the dirt. (Il-2 and La5 also do this because the canopies don't lock, hadn't noticed this before and bellied in quite a few Il-2s with the canopy open). I also like that the landing gear is finally not impervious to folding/breaking due to high lateral speed. Think that came in last patch. Yes the patch before this, the canopy in the IL2 close in dive and open again when climbing 2
Feathered_IV Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Great update, well done again devs. Don't you mean... eggs cement?
pilotpierre Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Don't you mean... eggs cement? I did, but I forgot how to spell it. 1
Feathered_IV Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 I never let poor spelling get in the way of a superlative superlaxative 1
Livai Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 My first impressions so far so good --> I can see the engine from the Fw-190, really funny --> AI planes use tree camouflage, really funny to be continued........
Asgar Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 My first impressions so far so good --> I can see the engine from the Fw-190, really funny --> AI planes use tree camouflage, really funny to be continued........ McKvack, since you became a tester everything's going to hell
CZEforzamike Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 GREAT UPDATE! plane is more stabile in the air! Now i am enjoying flying over the map, slow speed flying is so great! FANTASTIC WORK!
Livai Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) McKvack, since you became a tester everything's going to hell yeah, compare bf-109 vs La-5 from a different perspective, enjoy! [Edit] The right nose cannon from the bf-109 looks much shorter than the left one? Why is the right nose cannon much shorter? Edited October 21, 2016 by Superghostboy 1
Asgar Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 i'm sure the guns are shifted to allow more space for the individual belts
Livai Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 i'm sure the guns are shifted to allow more space for the individual belts looks like they are indeed shifted!
SvAF/F16_Goblin Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) That is correct, the cowling guns are shifted to allow the belt feed mechanism to fit in the fuselage. Edited October 21, 2016 by I./ZG1_Goblin 1
freeecan Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Hi mates after last patch rudder control is not effective especialy at bombers when doing taxi. Should be corrected immediately Thxs alot Hi mate rudder is not effective at bombers when doing taxi Thxs alot
Asgar Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 it is now correct. no airflow, no rudder control
Avatar13 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Looking forward to trying out this patch and my new BOM tonight!! Thanks for your continued hard work on this great sim!
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Check your settings. I can now taxi and put a 190 into a revetment using almost rudder alone. I never could have don't that before this patch.
216th_Jordan Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Hi guys, After the last patch I have serious stutters and freezing. Yesterday in WoL server all in the base moved with pulsed movement, I don't know what's the problem but this never happened to me before. Please help! ECV56_Palex Maybe just a bug. Did it always occur or only one time?
ECV56_Palex Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 This occur all the time since the last patch, even with the graphics settings in low. Before the patch I used the graphics in Ultra.
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