=TBAS=Sshadow14 Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) LMAO By all i meant All countries not all pilots each and every one of them :D Also IRL i would not do it as for almost every war we have had Except ww2 i would rather spend 10 years in jail even hard labour than kill people i don't know and only know them by what my government has told me. Edited April 9, 2017 by =R4T=Sshadow14 2
Aap Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 When you say that all "countries" did it, you mean that there were rules of engagement issued by military or political leaders that ordered or encouraged killing bailed out enemy pilots? That is simply not true. It has been pointed out countless times that in western countries it was actually the other way around. Japanese "bushido" was different, though.
Lusekofte Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 If you feel personally insulted by being killed in your chute or killed at all in the game. There is medication and shock therapy for mental disorders like that I know of people wanting to misunderstand a post, and you are apparently one of them, I simply do not got there myself. Read my post again, it is not that bad English
CanadaOne Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 Another question for those who say they would not chutekill: If you were in a tank, and you just destroyed the other guy's tank, but he managed to get out and was running to another tank he could get in and come after you with, would you pump a shell right into him while he was running or would you wait until he was in the tank? I'm not saying I have the right answers to any of this. I'm merely investigating the question.
Nocke Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 But it is so easy. THIS IS NOT REALITY. Shooting someone on a chute is just slapping him in the face without him being able to do anything against it. And he will come back whether you shoot him or not. So why would anybody do that? I just don't get it... 1
CanadaOne Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 What difference does it make in MP if you do or do not kill the guy in his chute? Is there a loss of points or ability to fly again?
=TBAS=Sshadow14 Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 There is no penaltyit only insults the person you killand only people who care much about that are those below canada and above mexicothey have a deep need for revenge and when they can't get it ...they cry.
CanadaOne Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 Excuse me, I meant to the person who got shot in the chute. Does he lose points or have to wait longer to rejoin or anything like that?
curiousGamblerr Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 and only people who care much about that are those below canada and above mexico Pffft whatever dude, talking out of your outlet cowling as usual 1
GrendelsDad Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 CuriousG this is a little off topic...where do you stand on IL2s getting shot down by tanks??? Sorry! just randomly popped in my head. 1
Nocke Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 What difference does it make in MP if you do or do not kill the guy in his chute? Is there a loss of points or ability to fly again? It does not make any difference to anybody, stats or points wise. Some think they should do it to prevent the people hanging on the chute from continuing to talk to their folks on teamspeak, thats the only reason in terms of gameplay I am aware of.
curiousGamblerr Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 CuriousG this is a little off topic...where do you stand on IL2s getting shot down by tanks??? Sorry! just randomly popped in my head. Oh man I had forgotten about that... incident... Good times! 1
CanadaOne Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 It does not make any difference to anybody, stats or points wise. Some think they should do it to prevent the people hanging on the chute from continuing to talk to their folks on teamspeak, thats the only reason in terms of gameplay I am aware of. Ahhh, okay. Thank you for the info. The way I thought it was mentioned before, the person in the chute suffered an additional in-game consequence of some sort if "chute shot". If that is not the case, Let 'em float, or not. No diff. Certainly not anything for anyone to get worked up about.
THERION Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 It doesn't matter, if in real life or in simulated combat - for me it's a "no go"! It's a question about fairness and fair play... Just to think about it - even in a combat flight simulator - is absolutely primitive and I guess those considering this as "OK" should better play COD, DOOM or whatever just to shoot something...
CanadaOne Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) It doesn't matter, if in real life or in simulated combat - for me it's a "no go"! It's a question about fairness and fair play... Just to think about it - even in a combat flight simulator - is absolutely primitive and I guess those considering this as "OK" should better play COD, DOOM or whatever just to shoot something... "Primitive"? Indeed. One might wonder as to the primitive mindset of anyone wishing to play make believe war; shooting virtual bullets into virtual people, dropping virtual bombs on virtual things, and generally acting in such a way as to cause maximum virtual destruction as a form of entertainment with real hardware and real software bought with real dollars. Your line in the sand is... interesting. Edited April 10, 2017 by CanadaOne
THERION Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 "Primitive"? Indeed. One might wonder as to the primitive mindset of anyone wishing to play make believe war; shooting virtual bullets into virtual people, dropping virtual bombs on virtual things, and generally acting in such a way as to cause maximum virtual destruction as a form of entertainment with real hardware and real software bought with real dollars. Your line in the sand is... interesting. Interesting? Explain please, thanks...
CanadaOne Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Interesting? Explain please, thanks... There are people who think engaging in virtual violence, or re-enacting conflicts that killed millions of people, is an odd and unenlightened form of entertainment. They might wonder why "we" don't just take a walk in the woods, or play the piano, or read a book.
Lusekofte Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Iaint getting worked up on chute killing, it happened to me on only one occation, and that was on a server there is no difference wether you live or die. What I get worked up over is people in here sayng I am worked up because of chutekilling. My point of view is based on that person doing it, I say f**k him, do not like him , that is all
CisTer-dB- Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 The developer have work on the code and the animation, I think it would be disrespectful not to look at and appreciate the beautiful work and the art behind it. This is a game o7
Lusekofte Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 The developer have work on the code and the animation, I think it would be disrespectful not to look at and appreciate the beautiful work and the art behind it. This is a game o7 This topic will obviously never die... Yeah what ever, my endeavour on public servers are non existent anyway
6./ZG26_Custard Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 So here is my aircraft after being shot down. What do you think about someone doing strafing runs on the aircraft just to kill the crew onboard because that's exactly what happened. Just curious what you guys think? Personally I think it sucks just like chute killing.
CanadaOne Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 I would absolutely not strafe your plane. I might however dump two 500 kg bombs on it and, as King Henry said, "break it all to pieces". War is all hell.
6./ZG26_Custard Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 I would absolutely not strafe your plane. I might however dump two 500 kg bombs on it and, as King Henry said, "break it all to pieces". War is all hell. Shooting up someone in a chute or strafing (or bombing) the hell out of a downed aircraft has the equivalency of tea bagging your opponent, just like the sort of behaviour you get in any number of FPS.
CanadaOne Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Shooting up someone in a chute or strafing (or bombing) the hell out of a downed aircraft has the equivalency of tea bagging your opponent, just like the sort of behaviour you get in any number of FPS. I would make you a cup of tea, but I would not tea bag you. As for your downed He-111... What is it then to me, if impious War, Arrayed in flames like to the prince of fiends, Do with his smirch’d complexion all fell feats Enlink’d to waste and desolation? Edited April 13, 2017 by CanadaOne
6./ZG26_Custard Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 I would make you a cup of tea, but I would not tea bag you. As for your downed He-111... What is it then to me, if impious War, Arrayed in flames like to the prince of fiends, Do with his smirch’d complexion all fell feats Enlink’d to waste and desolation? “Losing well was a gift, but winning well is this stuff of the authentic manhood.”
Lusekofte Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Well this is probably the reason I lost interest in combat flight sims in general. The integrity and fair play attitude is a gonner. Old days in IL 2 there where a great atmosphere with strict rules. There where more than enough people flying, so you could afford having rules and ban people. Now public servers are like comments on a news feed , a few intolerable people that have no guts to stand up for themselves in other places than in inter web, sadly they take a lot of space and are very visible . I am not talking about BOS in special, this attitude you find in all public servers in all games Edited April 13, 2017 by 216th_LuseKofte
CanadaOne Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 “Losing well was a gift, but winning well is this stuff of the authentic manhood.” Only virtual manhood to be found here, my brother. The authentic stuff is outside.
Scojo Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 Well this is probably the reason I lost interest in combat flight sims in general. The integrity and fair play attitude is a gonner. Old days in IL 2 there where a great atmosphere with strict rules. There where more than enough people flying, so you could afford having rules and ban people. Now public servers are like comments on a news feed , a few intolerable people that have no guts to stand up for themselves in other places than in inter web, sadly they take a lot of space and are very visible . I am not talking about BOS in special, this attitude you find in all public servers in all games Actually, WoL is really good about banning people that act poorly
Fortis_Leader Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 So here is my aircraft after being shot down. What do you think about someone doing strafing runs on the aircraft just to kill the crew onboard because that's exactly what happened. Just curious what you guys think? Personally I think it sucks just like chute killing. I don't get why though. In my experience, gunners are far more dangerous on crash landed planes. Plane is stationary, no engine sound to mask approaching fighters, no need for the player to pay attention to anything else than manning a gun, etc.
Lusekofte Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 Well I find shooting down 109 in the gunner position on a PE 2 remarkable easy, bonus is when you got sniper gunner in the chat afterward. I have to admit, in BOS this is really easy, COD a bit more difficult since the guns are less effective there. You are not smart if you strafe a downed aircraft in the harms way of the gunners anyway
JG5_Schuck Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 On 4/13/2017 at 10:40 PM, CanadaOne said: Only virtual manhood to be found here, my brother. The authentic stuff is outside. But manhood non the less.....
Ehret Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 Pure tactical victories can not be guaranteed... In war, participants are going to hurt and kill one another, thus equivalent retaliation is going to happen. If sides respect some rules for mutual benefit, it is great news! If not, like in a total warfare, then they really have to kill their enemies, including parachuting pilots, given every opportunity.
CanadaOne Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, JG5_Schuck said: But manhood non the less..... I suppose. I guess it would be the same kind you get playing Super Mario Brothers or Donkey Kong.
Cybermat47 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, Ehret said: Pure tactical victories can not be guaranteed... In war, participants are going to hurt and kill one another, thus equivalent retaliation is going to happen. If sides respect some rules for mutual benefit, it is great news! If not, like in a total warfare, then they really have to kill their enemies, including parachuting pilots, given every opportunity. Okay, but this is a game, not a war.
CanadaOne Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, FFS_Cybermat47 said: Okay, but this is a game, not a war. Fortunately there is still a rum ration.
Ehret Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, FFS_Cybermat47 said: Okay, but this is a game, not a war. The same principles apply. We mutually agree to servers' rules and the victory conditions don't include strafing bailed pilots. We have in the game sort of war convention, effectively.
Ehret Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, [3./J88]PikAss said: War the playground for psychopaths. Before I shoot someone in the parachute, i rather would shoot myself. Even if i saw him killing someone of my mates in the chute. I am a human being not a war criminal. But guess the definition of psychopath(in a philosophic way) includes "doing" everything for the win No - a psychopath is someone who just doesn't feel emotions or empathy. It does not mean a psychopath must have murdering urges. If your survival, or your close ones, would depend on the victory, then you would kill without much remorse, too. Or would you rather watch your close ones being raped, or murdered?
Danziger Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 But what does any of that have to do with playing a video game? It's just some pixel animations on a screen. I like to load up a quick mission with 8 Ju52s full of paratroopers then shoot them all down. You get a whole new game afterward of weaving through this sky full of parachutes trying to shoot down as many as you can before they land.
Trooper117 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 The geneva convention allows you to shoot armed paratroopers whilst in their parachutes... they are going to try and kill you when they are on the ground...
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