Nic727 Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 Hi, I was just looking at the price for a physical version of the game through Amazon and wow... $130. Is it an error? https://www.amazon.ca/IL-2-Sturmovik-Battle-Stalingrad-Windows/dp/B00PAAPYME/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466951094&sr=8-2&keywords=il2+battle+of+stalingrad Or there is this one, but don't know if UK mean English Only, because I would like a french version. https://www.amazon.ca/IL-2-Sturmovik-Battle-Stalingrad-DVD/dp/B00OIX9CMW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466951094&sr=8-1&keywords=il2+battle+of+stalingrad Another thing that need changed is the main page at http://il2sturmovik.com/ where pricing are very old, with a beta in 2015, etc. It should be changed. Also, what about buying a physical version of the game from the website? It will avoid error like the $130 price. Thank you
Jason_Williams Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 Nic, Let me explain. 1. The $130 price is the open "marketplace" price sold by someone who is not Amazon Canada. We have zero control over this. 2. BOS was never sold to Amazon Canada from the U.S. distributor which is the box you see. Any copies of this box sold in Canada has been imported to Canada from somewhere else. 3. There is a distributor in the UK that likes to sell "grey" market copies which means they have right to one market like the UK and then sell into other channels like Canada. They aren't supposed to do this, but they do anyways. Really annoying. 4. The pricing on our front page is not odd and is in no way connected to box pricing. Right now BOS is on sale and BOM is not since it is new. 5. We've phased out selling our products in boxes so you will see a lot of weird pricing as the remaining supply dries up. Jason
Nic727 Posted June 26, 2016 Author Posted June 26, 2016 So the best is to buy Il2 BOS boxed version from Amazon US? https://www.amazon.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-Battle-Stalingrad-Windows-Pc/dp/B00PAAPYME/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466954365&sr=8-1&keywords=il2+battle+of+stalingrad Actually out of stock. Whatever, maybe you will release another boxed version later with all extensions like 1946? Thank you
ShamrockOneFive Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 So the best is to buy Il2 BOS boxed version from Amazon US? https://www.amazon.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-Battle-Stalingrad-Windows-Pc/dp/B00PAAPYME/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466954365&sr=8-1&keywords=il2+battle+of+stalingrad Actually out of stock. Whatever, maybe you will release another boxed version later with all extensions like 1946? Thank you Why not just buy it online straight through the website? That will get you the best price
[CPT]milopugdog Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 I understand wanting a physical copy, but why waste the time trying to find one when you'll just download it as if you bought it here? It's even 50% off. :/
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) So the best is to buy Il2 BOS boxed version from Amazon US?https://www.amazon.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-Battle-Stalingrad-Windows-Pc/dp/B00PAAPYME/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466954365&sr=8-1&keywords=il2+battle+of+stalingradActually out of stock. Whatever, maybe you will release another boxed version later with all extensions like 1946?Thank you No, the best thing to do is buy it directly from the website. It's also right there in Jason's reply - physical copies/media are phased out as they should be. Digital distribution makes more sense all around and decreases overhead for the studio. Edited June 26, 2016 by Space_Ghost
Jaws2002 Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) Hi, I was just looking at the price for a physical version of the game through Amazon and wow... $130. Is it an error? https://www.amazon.ca/IL-2-Sturmovik-Battle-Stalingrad-Windows/dp/B00PAAPYME/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466951094&sr=8-2&keywords=il2+battle+of+stalingrad Or there is this one, but don't know if UK mean English Only, because I would like a french version. https://www.amazon.ca/IL-2-Sturmovik-Battle-Stalingrad-DVD/dp/B00OIX9CMW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466951094&sr=8-1&keywords=il2+battle+of+stalingrad Another thing that need changed is the main page at http://il2sturmovik.com/ where pricing are very old, with a beta in 2015, etc. It should be changed. Also, what about buying a physical version of the game from the website? It will avoid error like the $130 price. Thank you Amazon Canada is a total rip-of. Some things are priced ok, but a lot of stuff is simply not available and what is, it's insanely priced. Then you have the insane shipping times and prices. Here's a perfect example. A book I bought not long ago: So, I never buy anything from them, without double checking the US prices. In the end I got that one from Mombeeck USA, through Amazon US, for a very reasonable price and had it shipped overnight to a temporary US address. The next day i just drove over and picked it up. Amazon Canada is mostly a rip-of, so never buy anything from them without checking the US prices first. Edited June 26, 2016 by Jaws2002 1
Jade_Monkey Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) That's just a private seller trying to rip people off. Get a digital copy like everyone said. Edited June 26, 2016 by Jade_Monkey
Nic727 Posted June 26, 2016 Author Posted June 26, 2016 Yeah, but what I don't like about digital copy is : The copy is only linked to my account, so can't share the game to any family member. I owned physical copy of ROF and I was very shocked to see that I needed 2 keys for 2 players instead of one to install the game and have multiple in-game account like in other flight sim. I don't know if it's the same for Il2 BOS physical version. Need to re-download everything if I change PC.
ShamrockOneFive Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Yeah, but what I don't like about digital copy is : The copy is only linked to my account, so can't share the game to any family member. I owned physical copy of ROF and I was very shocked to see that I needed 2 keys for 2 players instead of one to install the game and have multiple in-game account like in other flight sim. I don't know if it's the same for Il2 BOS physical version. Need to re-download everything if I change PC. 1) Digital or physical copy, this won't be any different if you get a DVD. 2) Copy the game directory onto an external hard disk. Won't be much different. I did this fairly recently. Edited June 27, 2016 by ShamrockOneFive
AndyJWest Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Yeah, but what I don't like about digital copy is : The copy is only linked to my account, so can't share the game to any family member. I owned physical copy of ROF and I was very shocked to see that I needed 2 keys for 2 players instead of one to install the game and have multiple in-game account like in other flight sim. I don't know if it's the same for Il2 BOS physical version. Need to re-download everything if I change PC. Owning a physical copy makes no difference whatsoever as far as 'sharing the game' - you are entitled to a single account only - and whatever is on any 'physical copy' DVD is going to be extremely out of date anyway.
Rjel Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Yeah, but what I don't like about digital copy is : "Need to re-download everything if I change PC." Or burn it to a DVD once the sim is downloaded. That's what I've done so that I have a clean copy to avoid re-downloading should anything happen. I also use that as my base so when there is a major update I can then have a fresh install free of a lot of smaller updates. It might be unnecessary but I think it gives me smoother performance. Others might argue that.
Nic727 Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 OK thank you. Talking about you are entitled to a single account only So it will be like in ROF where I need to buy two games if I want to play with two différents accounts? Sad it's not in-game account like before. Was much easier.
SOLIDKREATE Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Buy it from the website or else you are stuck with Steam.
Jade_Monkey Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 You can create multiple campaigns in PWCG, for you and someone else. If you want to play in two computers then you will need two games. Welcome to 2016.
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) -snip- The copy is only linked to my account, so can't share the game to any family member. I owned physical copy of ROF and I was very shocked to see that I needed 2 keys for 2 players instead of one to install the game and have multiple in-game account like in other flight sim. I don't know if it's the same for Il2 BOS physical version.-snip- -snip- So it will be like in ROF where I need to buy two games if I want to play with two différents accounts? Sad it's not in-game account like before. Was much easier. I'm sorry, but why would you expect two licenses for the price of one? If a family member wants to play this with you online it is completely reasonable to pay for a second license. However, if you spent the last decade sharing your single 1946 license with friends so that they could use your single license to play online with you that is tantamount to illegal software distribution - you're likely in violation of the EULA. Edited June 27, 2016 by Space_Ghost
Nic727 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Posted August 6, 2016 I'm sorry, but why would you expect two licenses for the price of one? If a family member wants to play this with you online it is completely reasonable to pay for a second license. However, if you spent the last decade sharing your single 1946 license with friends so that they could use your single license to play online with you that is tantamount to illegal software distribution - you're likely in violation of the EULA. Nooo... What I mean is that in Il2 1946 or even Flight Simulator X. You install the game with a DVD key (but you still need DVD to play), but INSIDE the game itself, you can have multiple account without needing to login or buying a license for each of these accounts. I never shared a game to a friend to play online with him... In that case he would need a second DVD lol. Whatever, the way it works with ROF and Il2 BOS surprised me the first time I saw this. Like my brother installed the game, so he created an account (but I didn't know at this time) so when I was going to play with my own account, I was stuck with the trial version... Wow... I own the game, but can't play the way I want. So I needed to buy the game a second time. But a great man on ROF gave me a free activation code, so thank you to him. ROF support didn't want to give me a free code But maybe the solution could be that : 1. You have automatic login into the game as an option 2. Inside THIS account (il2 account), you can have multiple local account for each members of your family to allow them to play there own campaign. Whatever, I'm waiting to have a better computer to buy the game... I will buy the game even if I don't like how it work for the activation.
[CPT]milopugdog Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) Nooo... What I mean is that in Il2 1946 or even Flight Simulator X. You install the game with a DVD key (but you still need DVD to play), but INSIDE the game itself, you can have multiple account without needing to login or buying a license for each of these accounts. I never shared a game to a friend to play online with him... In that case he would need a second DVD lol. Whatever, the way it works with ROF and Il2 BOS surprised me the first time I saw this. Like my brother installed the game, so he created an account (but I didn't know at this time) so when I was going to play with my own account, I was stuck with the trial version... Wow... I own the game, but can't play the way I want. So I needed to buy the game a second time. But a great man on ROF gave me a free activation code, so thank you to him. ROF support didn't want to give me a free code But maybe the solution could be that : 1. You have automatic login into the game as an option 2. Inside THIS account (il2 account), you can have multiple local account for each members of your family to allow them to play there own campaign. Whatever, I'm waiting to have a better computer to buy the game... I will buy the game even if I don't like how it work for the activation. In the example you gave you gave the key to your brother. He registered it, and you couldn't use yours. Which he used on his. So what you want is something where YOU buy YOUR single game key for YOURSELF to use on YOUR OWN ACCOUNT, but a function that lets little Johnny have an account piggybacking off yours that is like a new key? Think about it like this: You have a certain lock. You also have a key that can open it. The key can open any lock of that type, but it breaks leaving the lock open when used. That is what the keys are like here. What you want is for little Johnny to have his lock unlocked too. Two accounts, two locks. You have one key. You have two locks. The key can open both. That's bad for business. Edited August 6, 2016 by II./ZG1_milopugdog 1
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) -snip- I own the game, but can't play the way I want. So I needed to buy the game a second time. But a great man on ROF gave me a free activation code, so thank you to him. ROF support didn't want to give me a free code -snip- I don't think I misunderstood - you want an additional copy of the single-use licensed product for free. You think it was poor form that the 777/ROF support team denied giving you a second free copy of their licensed product..? "I bought an iPad but I can't use the iPad when I let my brother use it. I called Apple support and they said I'd have to buy a second iPad if I wanted to use an iPad at the same time as my brother! WTF?! " Edited August 6, 2016 by Space_Ghost
Rothary Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 I think what he means is infact how ROF works. You log in into the game with the account that owns the key, after that you can make separate in-game profiles (still on the same account) that have their own in-game usernames and career mode pilots. Basically each family member could have their own profile they'd play on (on the same account). Not together in multiplayer but in turns on the same machine. This is possible with ROF but not with IL2.
Jade_Monkey Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) Welcome to 2016. Its been a while since they closed that "buy one, play all" loophole. Get on with the times. Edited August 6, 2016 by Jade_Monkey
Irgendjemand Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Just go here and get a key for VERY cheap. http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-il-2-sturmovik-battle-of-stalingrad-cd-key-compare-prices/
AndyJWest Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Just go here and get a key for VERY cheap. http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-il-2-sturmovik-battle-of-stalingrad-cd-key-compare-prices/ If you want to get ripped off, that's certainly the way to go. Otherwise, read this: particularly the section 'BUYING & SELLING GAME ACCOUNTS' http://il2sturmovik.com/user-agreement/ A mug's game...
Irgendjemand Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) If you want to get ripped off, that's certainly the way to go. Otherwise, read this: particularly the section 'BUYING & SELLING GAME ACCOUNTS' http://il2sturmovik.com/user-agreement/ A mug's game... Sorry, youre wrong. I bought lots and lots of keys there and all is fine. The one that pays more is just ... EDIT: This shop here is very trustworthy. Bought lots of keys there. https://www.g2a.com/il-2-sturmovik-battle-of-stalingrad-cd-key-global.html?mkey=eqi5&utm_source=www.allkeyshop.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=allkeyshop#mlm-profit-value EDIT2: What is sold there is not an account but a standard steam key that can be activated. So your smart link doesnt apply in any way. The fact that obviously BOS is sold very cheap in some parts of the world and quite expensive in others could be subject to argue about. But i think this has already been broadly talked about in the forums in the past. Edited August 7, 2016 by Irgendjemand
XQ_Lothar29 Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) In catalonia, one of the best Stores dedicated to Aircraft and Pilots, the Il-2 Battle of Stalingrad price is: 49.90€ in phisic http://www.aeroteca.com/product-es/32944 Edited August 7, 2016 by Ala13_Lothar29
DD_Arthur Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Sorry, youre wrong. I bought lots and lots of keys there and all is fine. The one that pays more is just ... EDIT: This shop here is very trustworthy. Bought lots of keys there. https://www.g2a.com/il-2-sturmovik-battle-of-stalingrad-cd-key-global.html?mkey=eqi5&utm_source=www.allkeyshop.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=allkeyshop#mlm-profit-value No, he's quite right. Thats the site where two squadmates of mine bought BoS and found they had the cheaper, russian market version with only two planes. The others had to be unlocked by flying the campaign. They eventually obtained a refund. Very bad advice. Only buy this game through this website or through Steam itself. 1
Irgendjemand Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) No, he's quite right. Thats the site where two squadmates of mine bought BoS and found they had the cheaper, russian market version with only two planes. The others had to be unlocked by flying the campaign. They eventually obtained a refund. Very bad advice. Only buy this game through this website or through Steam itself. OK paying 10 instead of 50 bucks is bad advice. ROFL. Even if its only the 2 plane version. If someone wants to save some bucks or simply hasnt got the money for the full version this is VERY GOOD advice. If you want to make sure just contact their support and ASK before you buy. That simple:P Edited August 7, 2016 by Irgendjemand
7.GShAP/Silas Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) G2A is a garbage site selling "grey market" keys(read: illegal buying and reselling of regionally priced keys) . If you buy and have your key cancelled because it was originally purchased with a stolen or fake credit card it's no surprise(very common), but you shouldn't buy from them regardless because it's destructive to both the consumer and the developer. Edited August 7, 2016 by Silas 2
coconut Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) EDIT: This shop here is very trustworthy. Bought lots of keys there. [a link to some website] Don't buy BOM/BOS there. See http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/24240-deleting-activated-keys-account-il2sturmovikcom/?p=374855 for a demonstration of the problem you might get if you buy the game from other places than the website and steam. Edited August 8, 2016 by coconut
Irgendjemand Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) Whatever. All guys here are marture and must know what they do or dont. Edited August 8, 2016 by Irgendjemand
Nic727 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Posted September 5, 2016 Who is creating the Physical version of the game? I know that Rise of Flight has multiple editions of the game in DVD, so what about Il2?
AndyJWest Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Do you actually bother to read threads before you post? "We've phased out selling our products in boxes" seems a clear enough answer to me. Nobody is making DVDs for the game any more.
PA-Sniv Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) I bought mine from here (GBP 24,49 - 29,18€ but I can't remember how much I paid for transport fee): http://www.excalibur-publishing.com/collections/other-flight-sims/products/il-2-sturmovik-battle-of-stalingrad But this boxed edition was published in 2014 and is installed and updated through Steam. So you'll need to update your game to get the latest version 2.003 (2.004 this week). As BoM wasn't even announced at the time the boxed edition was published, the update process will be quite heavy. Cheers, EDIT: and you'll be able to change to French, even with a UK edition Edited September 5, 2016 by PA-Sniv
Nic727 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Posted September 5, 2016 Do you actually bother to read threads before you post? "We've phased out selling our products in boxes" seems a clear enough answer to me. Nobody is making DVDs for the game any more. I just like to have game boxes in my collection. Also this BOS boxe look great.
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