Cheaters who log out when they lose the advantage

[Aap]

 

 

I'm actually laughing at this. Dude you really need a reality check, You're playing a game! it's not 1940 it's 2016 lol. seriously! Well at least I'm convinced. So long and thanks for the laugh. Time to free up some hard drive space. Priceless. 

 

What should that reality check be about? I know it is a game. I know it is 2016. How does that make any of your silly points valid?  I am sorry, but I don't see a connection here.  

[Gambit21]

Immersion, and the lack of dolts that will disconnect when they're about to get waxed is what makes hand crafted single 

player missions so valuable.

 

You're NEVER going to get WWII immersion in multiplayer, at least not consistently.

When that immersion did happen online, it happened on CoOPs, not these free for all servers we have now.

 

We need Hyperlobby back.

 

That said Kemp, like I keep saying "dude my cat just ran across my keyboard LOL!"

"The wife is home, only have a few minutes"  "hang on, don't shoot me, someone is at the door"

"What's everyone having for dinner tonight"

 

All that crap didn't happen in WWII either - which again is why single player is best for immersion.

Not that I don't love multiplayer (if I had Hyberlobby CoOps back) I do, it's just a different experience.

Is what it is. In CoOps we rarely had people disco, that's an 'air quake' room phenomenon for

the most part, which is all we have right now unfortunately.

Edited May 12, 2016 by Gambit21

[TheElf]

I think the answer is simple.  Anyone who disconnects can leave the game even is they are airborne.  However, once they Disco the game puts their plane on auto level for 30 seconds and stands the throttle up to mid rage.  Anyone within range can shoot, destroy, and claim that aircraft as a kill.

 

This would discourage Tactical Discos as anyone worth their salt in a sim should be better of staying with their plane rather than going wings level and retarding the throttle...

[TP_Silk]

I like the sound of a tactical disco..... 80's music in a club where combats are the dress code? 

[L1A1]

It is a game and not real life. If you keep spawning to find the same tag orbiting above in order to get simple kills it is accepable to alt-4 and go somewhere else to give yourself a Fighting chance ... why be a mug for the sake of it.

[Lusekofte]

This is a loose loose situation, I fly little to none on public servers , and if I do I fly DED server similar, where counterstrike attitude is little to none. In my point of view this game is used by most people as a game, and I think this is fair. There are plenty of servers to provide a more simulation like game play. 

The hostile and aggressive tone some choose to use got nothing to do with this game

[216th_Jordan]

I'm actually laughing at this. Dude you really need a reality check, You're playing a game! it's not 1940 it's 2016 lol. seriously!

Well at least I'm convinced. So long and thanks for the laugh. Time to free up some hard drive space. Priceless.

The literary device kemp used to show what he meant is called 'Analogy', you might wanna look it up.

[kileab]

Alongside this fascinating discussion, the problem remains that a plane whose pilot disconnects, voluntarily or not, should react as if the pilot was unconscious and finish his course into the ground.

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Alongside this fascinating discussion, the problem remains that a plane whose pilot disconnects, voluntarily or not, should react as if the pilot was unconscious and finish his course into the ground.

 

this could actually help people with genuine discos as they could have a chance of reconecting and getting back into their ship

[KoN_]

I lost connection twice tonight ` so if any of you were behind me , im sorry not my fault i had problems . 

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

A simple disco is never a problem. It's the habitual abusers that ruin the fun.

[216th_Jordan]

wouldn't there be a developerside way to block users from alt+F4-ing?

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Maybe, but then the cheaters would just leave Task Manager open and kill the process at the root.

[9./JG27DavidRed]

the disconnect on purpose phenomenon is definitely an issue...

but what i find even more annoying, is that the game actually even supports such bad habits with giving the players the option to "finish flight" while being mid-air online. this option should not be existent at all imo.

either bail out, or land, or get shot down, these should be the only options to finish a flight.

furthermore, the game additionally supports this embarrassing habit, with only counting pilot-kills as actual losses in the online-stats.

on berloga, there are many pilots, especially the experienced ones, which is even more ridiculous, who constantly hit the "finish flight" button as soon as they are in a bad position. they dont get a loss for it or anything. i really like il2, but tbh, i think the community is the worst i've seen in any flight sim so far, and unfortunatly, the game encourages bad behaviour.

[Stig]

I seem to remember flying around on the Random Expert server, hopelessly lost, and eventually in frustration (with niether friendlies or opponents around) hitting ESC but not being able to 'finish flight'; the button was red, and there was a message that 'only finish by landing' or something like that. So is it possible that being able to 'finish flight' in mid-air is a server setting? 

[LLv34_Temuri]

I seem to remember flying around on the Random Expert server, hopelessly lost, and eventually in frustration (with niether friendlies or opponents around) hitting ESC but not being able to 'finish flight'; the button was red, and there was a message that 'only finish by landing' or something like that. So is it possible that being able to 'finish flight' in mid-air is a server setting? 

It is a server setting called "Finish mission if landed". However, you can always just leave the server.

[Thad]

So if the game freezes or crashes and you have to force quit the application, you would be punished thusly?

Salutations,

 

Yes, those that actually lose their connection should not be punished unnecessarily. Unfortunately there seem to always be those that selfishly 'game' the system.

[Thad]

I made a topic once about this, imagine flying PE 2 since it was introduced , being a flying target practice for all axis fighters for years now all I get is this.

When shooting down or damage a attacking fighter a chat yell like "sniper gunners" and they abandon the server. 

These people expect me to fight on to the end but wont do it them selves.

But many times you get these serious pilots that have the respect for a fellow enthusiast and stick to the game. Meeting those make me realize that maybe there are more fair people on servers and we just remember the few who is not.

There are quite a lot of dedicated pilots out there, you only need to find the servers they fly on

Salutations... well said.

[Scojo]

I'd just like to say that very occasionally I do drag enemies through their own AAA if I feel I can't shake them since the AAA will often trail behind my plane far enough to at least scare them.

 

Now diving directly at AAA is a different matter, obviously. I don't do that.

 

In all of my multiplayer time on this CFS, I've only seen one person disc. Even when I'm in a 109 and they're at low relative energy, all of them have stuck around and gone down.

 

The one disc I have seen was a 109 who dove down and I turned up and into his arc behind him, which meant he probably would have gotten away. He was also out of gun range at the time, so I doubt he was disconnecting because he saw me approaching him.

[JaffaCake]

Disconnections can actually be extremely frustrating for bombers who climb for half an hour only to have the game crash on them.

 

It would be awesome to have the game auto-level your aircraft at nominal engine power if the client disconnected / crashed for the next 1-2minutes. If the player reconnects in the specified time he gets to fly again.

 

Would be a good deal both for those who want to get kills and those who just want to throw their PC out of the window because they spent last 30 minutes climbing only to get booted from the server due to ISP.

[Lusekofte]

 

 

e "finish flight" button as soon as they are in a bad position. they dont get a loss for it or anything.

 

YOu shouls note their names and report them, If anyone here really believe people read other stats than their own they really got to be disapointed, Only time I ever read mine is when people link it to me. Stats should not exist , people in not mature enough to handle it 

[Scojo]

YOu shouls note their names and report them, If anyone here really believe people read other stats than their own they really got to be disapointed, Only time I ever read mine is when people link it to me. Stats should not exist , people in not mature enough to handle it 

Meh. I've DCd in combat before. I don't want people reporting me for it.

 

Stats help as you can identify if someone is a true DCer or just have a bad connection from time to time.

 

As to whether stats encourage people flying in a "poor" manner, that's a matter of opinion

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

Its still not cheating tho.

thats like someone being accused of cheating just for talking to another women.

Cheating would be making the other person (loose connection & Disco)

[=SqSq=switch201]

Its still not cheating tho.

thats like someone being accused of cheating just for talking to another women.

 

 

I think It still is a form of cheating, and I think a better analogy would be to compare it to a chess game.

 

In chess I can secretly move the pieces around while my opponent is not looking and this would be considered cheating. Just because the physical board and pieces allow me to move them illegally doesn't mean it's not cheating. Also, it would be very difficult to design a chess board that prevented this type of cheating to take place. The only option for you as my chess opponent would be to report me as a cheater.

 

Its the same thing with BOS online. Just because the game allows it to happen does not negate the fact that it is cheating. Also it would be hard to catch these cheaters because people can lose connection for a variety of reasons. really all anyone can do is just report said person and move on.

Edited May 30, 2017 by =SqSq=switch201

[BlitzPig_Bill_Kelso]

I could care less what someone else does or does not do. I have no control over people and how they live their life's.

 

I have had people disconnect on me, mostly on Berloga server. I just laugh and move on to my next victim.

 

See, it's my duty to murder the bad guys. I will chute kill, vulch and use whatever nefarious methods to remove a dirty rotten bad guy from the unfriendly skies.

 

This is war and I only practice total war.

 

Ever notice how it's always the loser that complains the fight was never fair?

 

Just ask yourself this,

 

What makes the grass grow green?

 

"Blood Blood Blood!"

 

Carry on.

Edited May 30, 2017 by 1./JG54_Lang

[Haza]

I could care less what someone else does or does not do. I have no control over people and how they live their life's.

 

I have had people disconnect on me, mostly on Berloga server. I just laugh and move on to my next victim.

 

See, it's my duty to murder the bad guys. I will chute kill, vulch and use whatever nefarious methods to remove a dirty rotten bad guy from the unfriendly skies.

 

This is war and I only practice total war.

 

Ever notice how it's always the loser that complains the fight was never fair?

 

Just ask yourself this,

 

What makes the grass grow green?

 

"Blood Blood Blood!"

 

Carry on.

 

Wow,  I was actually expecting you to say "I couldn't care less".  So you do really care as you "could care less" which implies that you do care.  Big hug from us to you for pretending to be a ruffy-tuffy big bad guy! 

 

PS  Somebody just been watching Full Metal Jacket to feel all pumped up and ready for action?  Or you might have watched it as you are sowing a new patch of grass in your garden and would like some tips, therefore please see link below:

 

https://www.familyhandyman.com/landscaping/lawn-care/how-to-fertilize-your-lawn/view-all

 

 

Good luck!

Edited May 31, 2017 by Haza

[DD_Arthur]

Lol.

[Bearcat]

I'm new to BOS but have played ROF for some time. Since starting playing BOS I've been flying 109's. Several times I've had eyes on an enemy in a fight and as soon as they think

the fight has turned against them they will disappear. At that very moment a player logs off the server! I'm sure this kind of thing occurs on both sides but it is ruining the game for me!

 

I'd like to see a mandatory 15 minute ban for anyone who logs off to discourage this. I'm sure this happens because players justify doing it because someone on the other side did it to them.

It's bad enough we have to deal with trolls and those who want to spend the entire game name-calling. 

 

This SUCKS!

 

 

Get over it.. this is as old as online simming.. It used to happen on HL all the time in the old  IL2 . 

[FTC_Riksen]

Shame on you guys ... just sad.

[Haza]

Shame on you guys ... just sad.

 

JAEGER_Riksen,

 

Sorry mate and I apologise to anybody else who had to read what was posted earlier on the forum by Lang. 

Resorting to posting on the forum and emailing me about ploughing my Wife and planting his seed or sending her pictures of his plough perhaps was just a bit unnecessary and warranted my post and perhaps shows the mind-set of some players.  I'm happy to be attacked on a personal level or pass insults or banter, but stooping to make remarks towards my family on this forum and emailing them to me is rather lame and quite frankly shameful.

 

However, I have deleted the post above that included my email from this forum to ensure we stay on track and there will be no further response from me on this subject.  

 

Regards

Edited June 1, 2017 by Haza

[Airbrush]

Hi to all,

 

I don't like write something about cheaters but it is enough for me! I try to fight with  my opponents till my plane destroyed but specially one of the cheater at Berloga Server always doing this dirty action!!! He always despawn when he loose his advantage. I don't say bad words anymore at my home to this kind of players. İ can't believe to myself that I used words like a Nobel awarded books for him and each other cheaters.What and how should I do? Should I write a book about it???

 

Regards

Edited June 15, 2017 by Airbrush

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Careful, naming an adversary as a cheater is actually against the rules of the forum.

[Airbrush]

Sorry, edited.

 

Regards

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

Didn't we come to the conclusion that this wasn't really 'cheating' per say. I don't consider it cheating. It's dishonest and unsportsmanlike and achieves nothing other than making yourself look like a clown.

 

I know more than a few Russians on the Berloga server who regularly despawn any time they feel like they are at a disadvantage. Usually when you are down low near their spawn, after which they spawn in again and come at you with a huge energy advantage. All this on a dogfight server too where statistics count for diddly squat. I see nothing wrong with naming and shaming people like this. To be honest I see nothing wrong with accusing people of cheating either if they actually are. I get why the rules are the way they are though.

 

IMO this 'I need to win by any means necessary' is silly. It's a video game. Ok air combat isn't fair but abusing loopholes in a video game makes me lose respect for an adversary instantly. I think it goes against the classic 'Fighter Spirit' too.

Edited June 15, 2017 by 9./JG27DefaultFace

[VesseL]

If you jump is that ok? I allways jump at Berloga. Great server btw. Hope there would be Berloga with (custom ) icons.

[downedpilot]

That and the ones who bail out. 

 

Not much to be done saddly.

 

its ok bail when  your plane has had it,

[VesseL]

its ok bail when  your plane has had it,

Thanx. I jump when my ac has had it for sure.Or my ammo went out. Remember, that anyone who cheat dont get anything out of it all. its just sad to cheat.

[BlitzPig_EL]

You bail when you are out of ammo?

 

Why on earth would you do that?

 

Fly it home and land it, you know, like real pilots have to do.

[VesseL]

My impression is that most pilot just exit the flight at Berloga. Do someone land there? If my ammo ran out i dont bail right away. I try to look are there anyone near me, and if not, i kind of land in the air. I shut the engine put gear down and pull ac straight up, and when my speed stops i jump. If that is cheating i will land from now on. Any other server i try to go home and land.

[Willy__]

There are no AF for you to land on Berloga, you spawn directly into the air.

 

With that said, there are airfields on the map, but they dont count as "active airfield" from a mission standpoint, but nothing stops you from landing there. 

Edited July 8, 2017 by JAGER_Staiger