Tactical Air War

[curiousGamblerr]

Ban all 23mm. It can penetrate the cockpit and kill me. I dont like it. 

That's not enough. Maybe we should take raaid's suggestion from here and just fly around without weapons at all.

[Willy__]

Ban all 23mm. It can penetrate the cockpit and kill me. I dont like it. 

 

Indeed my friend... indeed... 

 

       

[Blakhart]

That's not enough. Maybe we should take raaid's suggestion from here and just fly around without weapons at all.

 

He is not in hospital now ? 0_o 

Strange...

[Willy__]

 

 

To be fair, that thing is a 'Weapon of Mass Destruction'...   https://gfycat.com/PleasantIllegalKob

 

I would trade up 4 20mms for a single 23mm 

 

   

[=FI=Genosse]

Sorry for asking, folks! I'm not sure if this question has ever come up yet ...

 

Is there a way to resupply a friendly airfield with transport aircraft? We tried it yesterday with seven proper landings at Kalach AF (96% destroyed) but it didn't seem to have any effect though ...

Thank you for your attention, folks!

[[TWB]Pand]

I would trade up 4 20mms for a single 23mm 

 

   

You actually can!  You just have to click the russian side and select the Lagg3.  Then if you have the unlocks you can select the 23mm.

 

Wish granted!      

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Sorry for asking, folks! I'm not sure if this question has ever come up yet ...

 

Is there a way to resupply a friendly airfield with transport aircraft? We tried it yesterday with seven proper landings at Kalach AF (96% destroyed) but it didn't seem to have any effect though ...

 

Thank you for your attention, folks!

No need to be sorry Answer is no - only transport collumn (truks) can rebuild heave damaged airfield. Thats why it has to be protected thru severall missions ... (hard task - current AI defence is to weak Imho . Transport planes are for capturing enemy airfield only (has to be 75% damaged) - for now meybe letter will have more options. Edited August 1, 2016 by 307_Tomcat

[=FI=Genosse]

No need to be sorry Answer is no - only transport collumn (truks) can rebuild heave damaged airfield. Thats why it has to be protected throu serval mission ... (hard task - in current AI defence is to weak Imho . Transport planes are for capturing enemy airfield only (has to be 75% damaged) - for now meybe letter will have more options.

 

This does make perfectly sense. Thank you very much for your reply, Tomcat!

[CCG_bexhausted]

Not as bad as getting killed by a friendly that you did everything in your power to show them your faction emblem. What's worse is that was my last fighter. Getting 5 combat missions when all you have is an IL2 isn't as easy as I imagined.

 

Hello 19.G//p3zman !

IRRE-Trefil is a friend of mine. He felt absolutely guilty by his mistake and angry against himself. He landed and disconnected immediately. He doesn't speak english so he can't apologize himself.

I think he would agree with this deal : how about if Admin could give you his Yak1 in compensation.

Best regards see you in the sky aboard your new Yak.

Edited August 1, 2016 by -LaFrench-bexhausted

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

This does make perfectly sense. Thank you very much for your reply, Tomcat!

Np , btw the defence column near city name - none doesn't mean that there is no AA in airfield - it mean that there is no anti tank defence (circle icon with curve inside). To be sure that airfield is save to land it has to be 100 % damaged or rely on military intelligence

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

I'd be pretty pissed off with myself if I shot down a plane and left the pilot to chute down to safety and the next day he hops in a plane and kills me or a friend of mine..... just saying.

[kileab]

Well, you'll met him again anyway, chutekilling or not. And plus he will think that you are an dick.

It's funny to observe that pilots defending chutekilling are all playing german side...

 

POLL -> http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/24178-do-you-think-chutekilling-acceptable/

Edited August 1, 2016 by -IRRE-Biluf

[Benti]

I think that the LG guys made the rules clear,

 

eventhough everyone should act according to his/hers code of conduct. Speaking for myself, I would never shot down a pilot hanging on a chute.

Now you can call me naive and all, but I just think there is something like mercy in every human.

There are plenty of stories from horrible things that happend during the war, but at the same time there were moments of respect and grace, especially among pilots.

 

cheers

Edited August 1, 2016 by Benti

[kileab]

It's funny to observe that pilots defending chutekilling are all playing german side...

[PeterZvan]

The first chute killing / attack that happened on the server that I know of was acctually against me about two weeks ago.

I got shot down and bailed and one of the VVS shot at me - missed, but the intention was there.

I wasnt pissed at all - its vaild - death means 5 minutes out of action for the pilot.

Sometimes that makes a difference.

Also destroying planes when they want to ditch - totaly valid - one plane less on the opponents selection.

Its an online war - all is valid.

[JG700_Rammjager]

I'd be pretty pissed off with myself if I shot down a plane and left the pilot to chute down to safety and the next day he hops in a plane and kills me or a friend of mine..... just saying.

That behaviour would make sense if LG Team set 5 day "death penalty" on server.

But it is a game. You kill him on chute, 5 min later he can kill You or your friend on chute cuz he is really pissed off.

Pissing off ppl aren't nice and mature,  When You enter the server whre most ppl are pissed off - what kind of fun You get ? Noone ...

Simply rule - do not anything what You do not want back.

 

In real war - yes.

 .... but We are plying game.

That game try to "simulate" some aspect of war. I'm pretty sure that all of us do not want to feel in 100% what war can offer

 

Ramm.

 

ps. Shooting ditching planes is another story.

Pilot who trying to ditch have an option - he can bail out earlier. If he trying to ditch - he take a risk being killied during ditching.

Being on chute You do not have any option, especially now when every player can leave the mission only after 15 sec waiting. 

Edited August 1, 2016 by JG700_Rammjager

[CCG_bexhausted]

I would never shot down a pilot hanging on a chute.

Now you can call me naive and all, but I just think there is something like mercy in every human.

There are plenty of stories from horrible things that happend during the war, but at the same time there were moments of respect and grace, especially among pilots.

 

 

 

 

 

That game try to "simulate" some aspect of war. I'm pretty sure that all of us do not want to feel in 100% what war can offer

 

+1000 FOR BOTH

[Benti]

@Biluf, sorry mate!

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

Keep your panties on boys.... I was referring to real life situation and also it is a cheeky way to remind you boys that this is just a fantasy game. Shoot me in my chute..... I don't care. I personally have never chute killed anyone ever, its really not necessary and its a proper waste of ammo on this server.

 

I do believe in Karma and I just don't think I would shoot someone in his chute in real life but again.... I would be really mad at the universe if it came back to bite my ass.

 

Server rules.....Its really simple.... love your fellow player, treat people online as you would want to be treated and have fun. In other words..... don't be a dick just because we are all not in the same room and you are hiding behind a keyboard on the other side of the world and the person you are insulting cannot physically kick your ass.

[curiousGamblerr]

The first chute killing / attack that happened on the server that I know of was acctually against me about two weeks ago.

I got shot down and bailed and one of the VVS shot at me - missed, but the intention was there.

I wasnt pissed at all - its vaild - death means 5 minutes out of action for the pilot.

Sometimes that makes a difference.

Also destroying planes when they want to ditch - totaly valid - one plane less on the opponents selection.

Its an online war - all is valid.

Exactly. As long as we have a strategic incentive in the death penalty, etc. the chute killing will continue and should be allowed.

 

Frankly, I think we should have a conversation about why everyone takes it so personally and can't see it's just part of the game, instead of whether not its allowed.

 

This is coming from someone who gets lit up on TAW all the time and has been chute killed plenty.

[SCG_happy_meal]

Started playing BOS again because of this server, love it

 

But how do you know how many more transporters you need to land on a airfield to capture it? 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Started playing BOS again because of this server, love it

 

But how do you know how many more transporters you need to land on a airfield to capture it?

There is no formal information, also i'm not sure if it will get zeroed or pass on next mission if not complited.

[ACG_pezman]

 

Hello 19.G//p3zman !

IRRE-Trefil is a friend of mine. He felt absolutely guilty by his mistake and angry against himself. He landed and disconnected immediately. He doesn't speak english so he can't apologize himself.

I think he would agree with this deal : how about if Admin could give you his Yak1 in compensation.

Best regards see you in the sky aboard your new Yak.

I appreciate the sentiment and understand. I am not mad at your friend because in the heat of the moment a P-40 can and does look like a 109 if you let it. I do not need a yak, I would be perfectly happy with my P-40 back. I want to earn my own yak, lol.

 

Tell your friend shit happens but to always double and triple check for those stars. I shot at an La5 the other day thinking it was a 190. Thank God my aim isn't as good as your squad-mate's.

[-IRRE-DragonAres76]

Well regarding the chute straff and/or ditches planes straff (and after a really nice "invitation" to shut my mouth in the ingame chat and come here to speak about it ...) :

 

We on russian side are often outnumbered, and often no more than 10 ...

 

If you continue straffing our chutes/ straffing ditched planes and act like idiots (because that behaviour is really what it means), so maybe will we start to go play elsewhere ...

 

And against who will you fight then ? Will you win battles because no one is in front to counter you ? => Good job, like some have aid it ealier in the topic, you will have killed (or forced to emigrate) all the pilots in front of you and won the war in 2 hours ... Mission complete in that case, but is it the real objective ? I dont think so.

Edited August 1, 2016 by -IRRE-DragonAres76

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

I saw several missions one by one with 15 to 3 ratios (3 was max for VVS ) and they had fun why? Becouse they conntinued playing in this "unfair" connditions whole day long They can and we ca't blame them. Could be in another way ,we need ratio limit i think so.

Edited August 1, 2016 by 307_Tomcat

[I./JG1_Deschain]

From another topic, could you add trains to your missions ? 

[F/JG300_Gruber]

But shooting down plane which is about to ditch. Throw all lead from all cannons from 190 - what looks like execution is fine to You?

 

I think you misread me completely mate 

 

I never shot at a parachute, and never will, and I never shot on a ditched plane or about to ditch (except on Berloga  )

Same thing if I see an enemy plane gliding with his engine dead, I usually flyby him and wave my wings. 

 

What I said is that I don't like killstealers but I find chuteshooting or strafing a ditched plane even more disrespectful

[FTC_Riksen]

Guys I made our squadron skins available for download on the TAW's site webpage but Kathon decided to take it down cause someone reported as a virus. I want to assure you that the skin pack is not a virus, it just comes as an exe file (installer) to make installation easy. Some members of our squadron have some trouble with computers so in order to make it easier to install, the pack comes as an installer. All you have to do is point it to IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad root folder ...

 

I just ask that before reporting stuff as viruses, check with anti-virus first if you still dont trust me. I can also make it available as a zip file if, as it seems to be the case here, the trust issue persist.

 

Cheers

 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/apo68xmtzkl824a/JG86+JAGER+SkinPack+v1.0.exe

Edited August 1, 2016 by JAGER_Riksen

[F/JG300_Gruber]

 

It's funny to observe that pilots defending chutekilling are all playing german side...

 

 

...and that half of the chutekillers are on the Russian side.

[Fern]

So there you have it. Shooting people in chutes is fair game. Happy silk shooting folks.

[MaxVonDayGlow]

IL2:BOS/BOM isn't enjoying a surplus of online players.

 

It seems pretty self defeating for anyone to engage in an activity (eg chute killing) that enrages other players and makes them think twice about flying another sortie or continuing to play online. Any cheap thrill gained from shooting a chute isn't worth the cost.

 

Years ago, in another WWII online game, one side with a huge numbers advantage kept seal clubbing the other despite repeated pleas to inject some fairness to ensure that everyone logging in had fun. This went on for weeks despite pleas in the forums for balance. The pleas were met with "war isn't fair", "the numbers reflect historical imbalances", and other rationalizations by the side enjoying the overwhelming advantage. One by one the squads and players getting clubbed every night disbanded, or left for other games. Even fewer people play that game today than are currently playing IL2:BoS. 

 

If we as a community want to see games like IL2:BoS grow and thrive, we need to stop using the anonymity of the Internet to act like arse-holes. If we can't rise above actions that drive other players away in frustration, then we have only ourselves to blame when the number of players playing online shrinks and the servers are emptier than they already are.

[Fern]

Put some code in that you get 500 negative experience points for shooting someone in a chute. You get the kill, but it's offsets points for destroying the plane. Problem solved.

 

Only one problem to the solution. EX: You're on someones six, they bail because they know they're toast. As they're bailing, you open fire and kill them in the same instance and would receive negative points. I don't see a problem with the kill at that point, but once they get air under the chute is when you should receive negative points. Hopefully there would be a way for Admins to program that in.

[FTC_Riksen]

I was the victim of chute killing today by NOREMORS. A very coward act but again it is allowed ... Regardless of being allowed or not, I think it is completely pointless to do that and only shows how messed up is ur character. The very next sortie I shot him down and he belly landed. I could've strafed him on the ground but again its all about CHARACTER!

Edited August 1, 2016 by JAGER_Riksen

[III./JG1_Loch]

There is no formal information, also i'm not sure if it will get zeroed or pass on next mission if not complited.

 

Last information said that you need 7 planes in 1 mission.

[9./JG27golani79]

Haven´t flown BOS/BOM in a while but would like to jump back in - I saw the TAW yesterday and was wondering if there is anything more to know than the few points on the starting page of this topic as the link on the starting page isn´t working anymore.

[HR_Tumu]

Thx for skins Jagger.

 

about parachute, will be nice made a poll? admins no have any fear to ask players ( before )

 

 

[=LG/F=Kathon]

From another topic, could you add trains to your missions ? 

Good idea

 

There is no formal information, also i'm not sure if it will get zeroed or pass on next mission if not complited.

7 planes in one mission. 

 

Haven´t flown BOS/BOM in a while but would like to jump back in - I saw the TAW yesterday and was wondering if there is anything more to know than the few points on the starting page of this topic as the link on the starting page isn´t working anymore.

http://taw.stg2.de/rules.php

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/21029-tactical-air-war/page-10?do=findComment&comment=369505

 

 

Thx for skins Jagger.

 

about parachute, will be nice made a poll? admins no have any fear to ask players ( before )

 

 

There is poll:

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/24178-do-you-think-chutekilling-acceptable/page-?mode=show

[CCG_bexhausted]

Yesterday above Gromoslavka i was shot down in a nice way. Pilot hurted, engine damaged with only one shot. I was not abble to go back and a few minutes later i made an emergency landing.

S! for KG200-ifestos who let me go away.

 

But i saw into my Stats this morning that i did not lose any P40 ?

 

 

Is it a bug ? because we are not in Christmas day ?

Edited August 2, 2016 by -LaFrench-bexhausted

[Leutnant_Artur]

Stop whining about chute killing. Someone said that chute killing is childish, how about whining is it not ? Don't be bright side knight trying to change a world.... it's ridiculous.

 

Keep focus at fighting, tactics and technical observations.

[216th_Xenos]

 

People are looking to put in constructive criticism and have every right to voice their concerns.

 

Not everyone has the time to be on the server 24/7 and just want to quickly jump on and contribute to the so-called war effort with the little time they have outside of work/family. Treating this like a war simulator is not the way to go, it is simply a competitive game where everybody is trying to have fun.

 

Agreed that we should not be calling anything childish but let's let the discussion continue and find common ground between those who are for and against.

Edited August 2, 2016 by 55IAP_Xenos