72AG-DED- Random Expert +

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Will think on it. But need some alternative to it for the soviet side

All things do not have to be symmetric to work good as whole system.

[7.GShAP/Silas]

I am very excited to fly Random Expert in the Kuban.  I hope it isn't so far away!

[BubiHUN]

Server is offline.

[Birdman]

Any news on that?

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

It's over?

[BubiHUN]

It's over?

cant be sure, no offical news from the admins. 

[-DED-Zlodey]

The campaign is over

[BubiHUN]

well the sad thing in this is that the campaign more exciting part(second part) ends very fast. 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Thanks for campaign,I have fun playing it.

Edited November 7, 2017 by 307_Tomcat

[I./ZG1_Radick]

Thank you for playing, thanks to the red side you are good pilots

[Carl_infar]

I'd like to thank You for Your hard work which made the campign so fun.

I also like the new stat page very much.

 

Keep up the good work!

[72AG_Crusader]

Gentlmen! Campaign #9 ended with BLUE TEAM victory! Congratulations!

 

Soon we decide about server future. We are not ready to start new version and we feel some weariness about current version.

[BubiHUN]

i just hope we dont have to wait another 2-3 months to play again on this server

[SvAF/F19_Klunk]

Excellent work gentlemen. Great server, great stats system... your hard work is Truly appreciated!,

Thank you.

[Paulshow2]

love this server as well. please keep up the good work. stats are made much more immersive than on e.g. TAW. Adding Kuban Maps would be great.Thx DED's

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Thank you for running this server, it's a favourite of mine and many more

[Birdman]

Thanks for all your efforts, it's really my favorite server, hopefully we'll see it again soon.

[Bars-]

 

Soon we decide about server future. We are not ready to start new version and we feel some weariness about current version.

You feel bored? So what about those of us who do not feel bored with this server? I don't like TAW and I'd rather play on Random Expert...   Not good.

[BubiHUN]

Me and my squad played on this server quite often. We miss this server already, and waiting for the comeback. Yeah, it has the "supply" stuff, when you screw up your sortie, you will lose your plane. Then you have to bring another to the front. Most people dont like it, because they just picking a plane and screw it up. 

But, this is/was the best server out there. Dont let it go down, pls. 

[KG200_Ikaros78]

Great server!keep going even greater guys!!

Four parts i want to talk about if you dont mind..

first part,

the plane ferry matter is as realistic as it could be,the combact missions for a lost plane is not even close to a realistic situation.if you louse a plane,that dosent means that you srew it up becuase you know that you will have another plane in 5-10 minutes,you lost it probably becuase you engaged 3-5 enemy fighters just to protect you escort bomber,thats the life of this game,engage to battle to have some resaults,if you dont engage and making just rounds at 5-6K then of course you won't louse a plane..

second, as we talk about realistic,i believe that this should be the key thing which separates those official campains from the coop-servers..

the virtual life is what should really had the most importance of all,the IL2 Stats point system,in every virtual life you louse,it is also the number which your points were devided,so it was one of the major factors for a player and his points.for example you had 5000 total points with 12 kia-capture,you had 5000/12= 416 points in ranking board..

with the new stats,in every kia we louse 200points,not realy a major factor which could cause a player to watch out more carefully his virtual life,even if we risk for a good compact mission and we be killed,we probably take the points in the next risky mission,not a big deal isnt it?maybe a -300 or -500 penalty would make as appreciate our virtual life a little more..

third part,

the role that every pilot should have every day,maybe every day a pilot should choose a role to fly(bomber or fighter),with this way we could have some bomber pilots who fly all day as bombers,and not only to fly as bomber when few enemies are online and as fighter when too many enemies are online for extra points...

and one last part from me,

the airkills should only be shown in the stats board as the number of personal kills,not the assisted ones together with the personal ones,an assisted airkill with a 1%-10% damage its a total fake airkill for me to get,and i wonder if in real life every pilot had a kill in his book by this way..

i bet not,a kill its a kill,its only one plane going down,and you can not divide this plane to 2,3,4 deferent personal kills..

~S~

Edited November 9, 2017 by Ikaros78

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Great server!keep going even greater guys!!

Four parts i want to talk about if you dont mind.

First part,

The plane ferry matter is as realistic as it could be,the combact missions for a lost plane is not even close to a realistic situation. If you louse a plane,that dosent mean that you srew it up becuase you know that you will have another plane in 5-10 minutes,you lost it probably becuase you engaged 3-5 enemy fighters just to protect you escort bomber,thats the life of this game,engage to battle to have some resaults,

If you dont engage and making just rounds at 5-6K then of course you won't louse a plane.

 

Second,

as we talk about realistic,i believe that this should be the key thing which separates those official campains from the coop-servers. The virtual life is what should really had the most importance of all,the IL2 Stats point system, in every virtual life you louse,it is also the number which your points were devided,so it was one of the major factors for a player and his points.for example you had 5000 total points with 12 kia-capture,you had 5000/12= 416 points in ranking board.

With the new stats,in every kia we louse 200 points, not really a major factor which could cause a player to watch out more carefully his virtual life,even if we risk for a good compact mission and we be killed, we probably take the points in the next risky mission, not a big deal isnt it?maybe a -300 or -500 penalty would make as appreciate our virtual life a little more.

Third part:

The role that every pilot should have every day,maybe every day a pilot should choose a role to fly(bomber or fighter),with this way we could have some bomber pilots who fly all day as bombers,and not only to fly as bomber when few enemies are online and as fighter when too many enemies are online for extra points.

 

And one last part from me:

The airkills should only be shown in the stats board as the number of personal kills,not the assisted ones together with the personal ones,an assisted airkill with a 1%-10% damage its a total fake airkill for me to get,and i wonder if in real life every pilot had a kill in his book by this way..

i bet not,a kill its a kill,its only one plane going down,and you can not divide this plane to 2,3,4 deferent personal kills..

~S~

Just made it readible. 

 

Concerning your Points:

1. I agree, the current system disfavours Ground Attackers. Especially when the Aircraft is ditched on a friendly but inactive Airfield, or Bends a Prop due to Flak Damage. It's even worse with the Fuel System Modelling which often enough means that a leak in one of 4 tanks still means you run out of fuel, because the Fuel Tanks are actually counted as one Tank when it comes to leaks, and so one leak drains all.
2. Who really cares about Points though?
3. Well, the current system is actually quite good in forcing Ground Attack to win Maps. However, as it so often happens, 55 Germans still manage to loose against 20 Russians, because German Pilots just don't care about winning Missions at all. 
4. Yep, the Victory Counting is BS. But that's the ingame Stats. The Server Stats are different. 

[BubiHUN]

 

Just made it readible. 

 

Concerning your Points:

1. I agree, the current system disfavours Ground Attackers. Especially when the Aircraft is ditched on a friendly but inactive Airfield, or Bends a Prop due to Flak Damage. It's even worse with the Fuel System Modelling which often enough means that a leak in one of 4 tanks still means you run out of fuel, because the Fuel Tanks are actually counted as one Tank when it comes to leaks, and so one leak drains all.
2. Who really cares about Points though?
3. Well, the current system is actually quite good in forcing Ground Attack to win Maps. However, as it so often happens, 55 Germans still manage to loose against 20 Russians, because German Pilots just don't care about winning Missions at all. 
4. Yep, the Victory Counting is BS. But that's the ingame Stats. The Server Stats are different. 

 

well there was a few missons when 12-16 germans won a map against 40+ rusians. just saying..

[KARAYA1]

Amazing server, hope to see it up soon again!

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

well there was a few missons when 12-16 germans won a map against 40+ rusians. just saying..

Exceptions to the Rule. Maybe People who normally fly russians switched sides and found it remarkably easy and are now incredulous how the Germans are so easily pushed over.

[BubiHUN]

Exceptions to the Rule. Maybe People who normally fly russians switched sides and found it remarkably easy and are now incredulous how the Germans are so easily pushed over.

as the website shows, there wasnt a SINGLE player who changed sides. But maybe youre right. 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

as the website shows, there wasnt a SINGLE player who changed sides. But maybe youre right. 

TBH, this campaign surprised me a bit as well. The Germans did actually fight pretty well, there were fewer Hartmanns etc.

[BubiHUN]

TBH, this campaign surprised me a bit as well. The Germans did actually fight pretty well, there were fewer Hartmanns etc.

what do you mean under "hartmanns"?

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

what do you mean under "hartmanns"?

Two Kinds of Hartmanns: 

 

1. Classic Hartmanns are those Contrails you see in random parts of the map, not contributing anything to the War effort except for taking up slots. 
2. Wings of Liberty Hartmanns are those that Insult the other Players in a primitive, almost illiterate manner, get lost, can't taxi, friendly fire Stukas, "how yu know is firenly plen?....", "this server sux" etc. and just generally think they have the biggest Ds around and get killed in droves. 

Apparently, though unable to do so they may seem, they have learned to keep away or just plainly run out of planes. 

[KG200_Ikaros78]

 

 

[*]Who really cares about Points though?

 

Once again,you get out of point just to express your thoughts and ideas..

all about you are talking has nothing to do with the ones i mention above..

now,as for the "points" which you said that "who cares?"...well i insure you that many people cares,it is also a way to see how good each pilot or each squad is doing it in this campain..

so..if you personally dont care about points..i understand you and respect it,but respect by your self also every one else who maybe "judge" you from your place in the ranking boards..

[Aap]

Erich Hartmann was one of the best fighter pilots ever, both from skills point of view as well as decision making during air combat. 

I wonder why some folks want to make it appear as if he was some kind of idiot.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Erich Hartmann was one of the best fighter pilots ever, both from skills point of view as well as decision making during air combat. 

I wonder why some folks want to make it appear as if he was some kind of idiot.

No, you are some kind of Idiot for not getting it, it's a Joke. 

 

We are talking about people who think they are aces because they have Hartmann in their Usernames. The same kind of people who call themselves -something-Richthofen-something or something along the lines of "Red-Baron" in Rise of Flight, the Russian Counterpieces would of course be all the Pokrushkins on the Russian Side. They are clichés. 

 

The Wings of Liberty style Hartmann is so Ace, he doesn't even know how to Taxi, Land or anything else. It's rare for him to actually return from a Mission alive. He is so Ace, nobody can outturn him, and all those who do are hackers and the game is biased. He's also never touched anything but the best 109 available on that server, and his bellies have never seen any kind of ordonance.

 

The elusive Contrail Hartmann heard once that German Pilots didn't care about Mission Success, and only about personal Score. He also heard once that you want an altitude advantage, and so he spends his time at 10k and is only rarely seen actually killing an Il-2 (the mainstay of Hartmanns Credits). 

Every once in a while he'll kill something, he'll have a long, virtual life and his contributions to the team are at ABSOLUTE ZERO. 

Edited November 10, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Klaus-Mann

[7.GShAP/Silas]

Erich Hartmann was one of the best fighter pilots ever, both from skills point of view as well as decision making during air combat. 

I wonder why some folks want to make it appear as if he was some kind of idiot.

 

 

Because a lot of guys do not care to comprehend Hartmann's professional skillset in the larger context of trying to win the war however you can with what you have(not what you THINK you should have), as he had to constantly, but more like Tom Cruise in "Top Gun". 

Edited November 10, 2017 by 7-GvShAP/Silas

[Aap]

 

 

No, you are some kind of Idiot

 

Seriously? Or another joke that I am not getting? 

[Aap]

 

 

We are talking about people who think they are aces because they have Hartmann in their Usernames.

 

Look, I know that there are people online that put tough guy images on their profiles and talk like tough guys and act like they are somehow better than the rest and treat others like scum, and I can make assumptions of what these internet-tough-guys are like in real life, but that is not a good enough reason to start tarnishing Terence Hill's name, for example.

[Paulshow2]

He was THE best fighter pilot of all times. 352 kills was and will never be achieved by any other pilot (hopefully!!!).

although it is not really a topic for this forum i also start feeling uneasy about the level of disrespect regarding his name.True is that it is reasonable to consider BnZ tactics in the BF109 even if all those yak-jockeys would love to see each 109 entering blindly into dogfights and get easy prey.

keep accusing this with whatever naming you think is funny but maybe find another name. just my 5 cents!

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

In my opinion Eric Winkle Brown was probably the best overall Pilot of all times. He has so many firsts to his name. All of these snippets are worth a watch. His entire early Life's Story is understated if you say amazing. 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Klaus-Mann

[7.GShAP/Silas]

Not as much of a soldier, though.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Not as much of a soldier, though.

Yet, his Skills impress me more than those of most aces. And his story is by far more interesting. 

 

Edited November 10, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Klaus-Mann

[Chief_Mouser]

Not as much of a soldier, though.

 

That's why he said 'overall Pilot'.

Saw him at a book-signing once. Didn't know at the time about all of the things he'd done or else I'd have been as star-struck as everyone else.

Cheers.

 

Edited November 10, 2017 by 216th_Cat

[KG200_Ikaros78]

German airforce had over a 100 pilots with over a 100airkills each one,hartman was one of the topest in airkills but not the best of them,people like galland made the difference and then they rest back as instractors and generals,and most of them werent even nazis!the were just german pilots!a big respect to them!