72AG-DED- Random Expert +

[7.GShAP/Silas]

What's really lacking is that people (myself included) don't have the habit of hanging around on the official TS server.

There are often a few people speaking french flying on the server, so finding people to fly with should be possible.

(And if you are more or less confortable with it, english speaking people as well)

 

Spent the afternoon yesterday flying with Hauggy and another guy, and we all 3 had a lot of fun.

Even if this is not nearly as effective as a coordinated squad, at least you reduce your chances to be taken by surprise by another lone wolf.

 

And it makes supply flights much less boring 

 

 

A friend and I were talking about this yesterday. We will make an effort to join that TS more.

 

Today we were playing whack-a-mole near our three airfields by the end of a round. Me and other two Soviet fighters (Yaks, as far as I recall) were going up and down our bases which were fairly close to each other, protecting aircraft coming in to land and looking for whomever was causing flares to be shot every two minutes. Never caught them despite looking for them high and low for 20 minutes, went home and landed. Only two eventful bits were when I approached one of the Yaks to at least have somewhat of a pair dynamic to it and the bugger was caught by surprise and pulled a drastic split-S as I watched in confusion. Later on another Yak joined the patrol and went at me head on - thankfully the good old 'wave your wings if friendly' was understood, and no drastic manoeuvres were made that day.

 

 

You're a saint for trying.

[Otto_bann]

... There are often a few people speaking french flying on the server, so finding people to fly with should be possible.

(And if you are more or less confortable with it, english speaking people as well)... And it makes supply flights much less boring 

 

Why try to impose for others to don't fly alone if they wish? Is there a discrimination against lone wolves on this server and prohibit them to fly there? I prefer to fly alone and I often found solitary planes, I am therefore not the only one.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Why try to impose for others to don't fly alone if they wish? Is there a discrimination against lone wolves on this server and prohibit them to fly there? I prefer to fly alone and I often found solitary planes, I am therefore not the only one.

 

 

This is not a discrimination of anybody.

 

The main aim behind this system is to make pilot value their plane and lives and fly in a more responsible manner, and avoid the constant flow of suicidal bombers/vulchers that you see sometimes on other servers.

It also may help you when dealing with an objective close to an enemy base to prevent the guy you just shot down (if he run out of planes) to come back in less than 2min and shoot you down, knowing exactly where to find you.

 

This is not to discourage you to fly lone wolf fashion, I do it myself sometimes but you just have to be very aware of your surroundings and don't engage yourself in a too risky situation. Play smart 

 

If you really want a "hop and fight" server, Berloga or Wings of Liberty may be more what you are looking for. Good servers with a lot of nice pilots as well.

But the limited supply on DED server brings it to a higher level of seriousness and this is why I'm playing on it.

 

 

Today we were playing whack-a-mole near our three airfields by the end of a round. Me and other two Soviet fighters (Yaks, as far as I recall) were going up and down our bases which were fairly close to each other, protecting aircraft coming in to land and looking for whomever was causing flares to be shot every two minutes. Never caught them despite looking for them high and low for 20 minutes, went home and landed. Only two eventful bits were when I approached one of the Yaks to at least have somewhat of a pair dynamic to it and the bugger was caught by surprise and pulled a drastic split-S as I watched in confusion. Later on another Yak joined the patrol and went at me head on - thankfully the good old 'wave your wings if friendly' was understood, and no drastic manoeuvres were made that day.

 

If that was in the last 45min or so of the winter mission, It was me protecting a He111 that made several attempts to line up on its target (the supply depot in 481 I believe), so as he was flying back and forth we may have spent quite a lot of time in range of your base's radar, but hopefully at high altitude and out of flak range 

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Silas, I try my best. Few things hurt the heart of a pilot more than being gunned down on final or after starting up

 

Gruber, not sure if it was you, the mission I was flying on was during Autumn, set in November (though it was -11C), at dusk.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Our last mission Saturday evening

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDAtkT1wgzM&feature=youtu.be

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Gruber, not sure if it was you, the mission I was flying on was during Autumn, set in November (though it was -11C), at dusk.

 

OK so no, it's another one. The mission I have in mind was definitely on the winter map. 

 

 

Very nice video Emil !

[Otto_bann]

This is not a discrimination of anybody.

 

The main aim behind this system is to make pilot value their plane and lives and fly in a more responsible manner, and avoid the constant flow of suicidal bombers/vulchers that you see sometimes on other servers.

It also may help you when dealing with an objective close to an enemy base to prevent the guy you just shot down (if he run out of planes) to come back in less than 2min and shoot you down, knowing exactly where to find you.

 

This is not to discourage you to fly lone wolf fashion, I do it myself sometimes but you just have to be very aware of your surroundings and don't engage yourself in a too risky situation. Play smart 

 

If you really want a "hop and fight" server, Berloga or Wings of Liberty may be more what you are looking for. Good servers with a lot of nice pilots as well.

 

I'm flying sim IL2s since 1st time so +15 years ago (Spits vs 109s server long time), CoD and now BoS, soon BoM and I never been a kamikaze, idem on DED Expert. You talking about exemples of '' shoot 'em up'' pilots and easier places, never have been interesting for me.

 

However the result is the same because this rule often prevents me and other alone wolves fighters to fly there. That's why I talking about it like an injustice.

 

I had understood why this system exist, but I'm not sure that the consequences had all been planned, a part of us in suffer.

 

At last, it's not an impermeable rule against silly and kamikaze pilot : it's rare if by week - several time sometimes - I'm not killed at takeoff or few seconds later or landing, often forced to change base otherwise die again...).

 

And IMO it's a pious wish to think make level server higher by this rule : Reality options like no GPS, no markers, full system control, etc... make this (good) job.

Edited February 28, 2016 by otto_bann

[-DED-ASF]

which TS server or channel do the pilots flying on DED expert hang around?

Our TS: ded-squad.ru

rooms IL-2: BoS

Edited February 29, 2016 by -DED-ASF

[Lusekofte]

I also fly alone on DED server. I find no one in TS and I do not fly in a squad active in BOS for several reasons. Many I fly with are family people, they only fly organized flying witch currently is better in COD.

I do the same, but like BOS so much so I take a flight now and then. Making a server squad only is reducing the population.

Due to the bad patch (CTD) and often you cannot spawn, and when you do finally spawn you got the message of having no more planes and have to fly supply. Obviously the failed spawn attempt count for one used plane. I find myself unable to fly in this server many times.

When you want to fly IL 2 Sturmovik from a frontline airbase you often get attacked and this add to frustration if you had spawn problem. I am not giving critique for the airfield attacks. But multiple attacks from a single low level fighter should be stopped by aa

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

When you want to fly IL 2 Sturmovik from a frontline airbase you often get attacked and this add to frustration if you had spawn problem. I am not giving critique for the airfield attacks. But multiple attacks from a single low level fighter should be stopped by aa

Not only the frontline airfield. I don't know if the mission gen locig was changed but in my last 3 missions I've flown on this seevree all 3 aifield were much close too each other as well as to the enemie's airfields. I've not rarely seen red sign popping up on all airfields simultanously.

 

On a bright side it only took 5 min for a sucesfull supply mission since the friendly airfields were in spit range, but with all the vulching and low altitude fighting (often encouraged by low lovercast setting) you have a difficult time as a groudn attacker / bomber.

 

With the supply logic kicking me (and several other players whenever I'm online) for seemingly no reason, spawn bugs ect. I'm not too bothered about that issue though since flights end whenever the first plane is gone anyway.

[216th_Xenos]

Hey, whenever I land my pe-2 I get emergency landing, even with a flawless landing. This also happened with a normal pe-2 after a bombing flight. As a result, I am unable to resupply my hangar. What do I have to do to be able to resupply, getting a slightly frustrated.

 

Also tested the squads system,works pretty well.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

One of our squadmate (F/JG300_Carolus) was unable to ressuply on monday evening.

 

He flew 3 supply He111 and 1 supply Bf109. Only the first 111 awarded him 450pts but the others were not counted despite all being perfect landings. So he was unable to fly with us. 

[Lusekofte]

Hey, whenever I land my pe-2 I get emergency landing, even with a flawless landing. This also happened with a normal pe-2 after a bombing flight. As a result, I am unable to resupply my hangar. What do I have to do to be able to resupply, getting a slightly frustrated.

 

Also tested the squads system,works pretty well.

 

This is correct, all my supply landings are deemed as a crash landing. And this after landing I have to say is the ones I am proud of.  I have tried for two days getting in a attack, I am not saying something is wrong with the missions, but gaining supply point only give you one plane, and after all the spawning problems a mission seems impossible if the capaign is not just started. I haven't manage to reach a target for two days

[-DED-Rapidus]

Stress Test at this evaning, 84 person, pls come to our server at this evening!

[Lusekofte]

I am away for two weeks , I would other wise. This is the best server, and the ideas you got is superb. I do not want to change that. My reports are basically a heads up

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Fantastic sortie this evening, courtesy of Silas, his wingman whose name I failed to pick up on and Vade.

 

The set-up: Silas requested escort for a pair of Il-2s going to assault a German position right on the front line, on the West bank of the Volga. I dutifully took off from a rear airfield in my Yak-1 and made my way there. Right upon arrival, coming in from the north, I saw two Il-2s circling the target (always a sight to behold), and for a brief second I saw a fast mover above them going in the same direction - Messer, clearly. I broke left and gave chase. The 109 moved. We tangle for a bit, but shortly afterwards the Messer pops into the clouds and I stay down below, trying to keep an eye on the Il-2s doing their job. One circle later the 109 comes out of the clouds raining down on the Il-2s and I jump on him while he's firing, missing narrowly but grabbing his attention.

 

Now, the logistics of the act: one poor fighter pilot is surely worth less than two good ground attack pilots, plus aircraft, right? The 109 promptly zoomed and I gave chase even though I knew I wasn't catching up since he had a fair amount of energy on me. The engagement consisted of loads of highs and lows where he climbed, I climbed and we both stalled out. As it progressed Vade started running circles around me but I wasn't letting up and I was pretty happy about it, actually. My plan was working as planned, and even though it involved me playing target, the 109 was focused on shooting me down which left the Il-2s enough time to expend their ammo and start going home.

 

I had a fuel tank leak from a well-aimed deflection shot by Vade but elsewhere the Yak-1 was intact. I set course 090 and prepared for a tough disengagement fight. This part of the odyssey came with Vade darting down on me from above while I either barrel-rolled, weaved or kicked the rudder to avoid his attack. My poor gunnery and Vade's wariness meant none of the snapshot opportunities turned into hits. As I crossed over to the East bank, it dawned on me that my native airfield was way too far away to reach with a leaking tank and a Messer hot on my tail so I turned North towards the airfield the Il-2s had taken-off from, hoping to reach it soon. There and then Vade came onto me again, I evaded him but lost sight. Predictably, seconds later I am wounded lightly, then heavily, and my aircraft wobbles a little. I hold onto it but I see that it will depart sooner or later so I let go of the stick, which sends my Yak into a spin, drop the canopy and bail out at low altitude. Thankfully the chute opens on time and I land safe and sound, even if my aircraft is a hot fireball by now.

 

It was a very exciting mission, and one that showed the wonders of coordination even when done casually through the chat.

[Vade]

Fantastic sortie this evening, courtesy of Silas, his wingman whose name I failed to pick up on and Vade.

 

The set-up: Silas requested escort for a pair of Il-2s going to assault a German position right on the front line, on the West bank of the Volga. I dutifully took off from a rear airfield in my Yak-1 and made my way there. Right upon arrival, coming in from the north, I saw two Il-2s circling the target (always a sight to behold), and for a brief second I saw a fast mover above them going in the same direction - Messer, clearly. I broke left and gave chase. The 109 moved. We tangle for a bit, but shortly afterwards the Messer pops into the clouds and I stay down below, trying to keep an eye on the Il-2s doing their job. One circle later the 109 comes out of the clouds raining down on the Il-2s and I jump on him while he's firing, missing narrowly but grabbing his attention.

 

Now, the logistics of the act: one poor fighter pilot is surely worth less than two good ground attack pilots, plus aircraft, right? The 109 promptly zoomed and I gave chase even though I knew I wasn't catching up since he had a fair amount of energy on me. The engagement consisted of loads of highs and lows where he climbed, I climbed and we both stalled out. As it progressed Vade started running circles around me but I wasn't letting up and I was pretty happy about it, actually. My plan was working as planned, and even though it involved me playing target, the 109 was focused on shooting me down which left the Il-2s enough time to expend their ammo and start going home.

 

I had a fuel tank leak from a well-aimed deflection shot by Vade but elsewhere the Yak-1 was intact. I set course 090 and prepared for a tough disengagement fight. This part of the odyssey came with Vade darting down on me from above while I either barrel-rolled, weaved or kicked the rudder to avoid his attack. My poor gunnery and Vade's wariness meant none of the snapshot opportunities turned into hits. As I crossed over to the East bank, it dawned on me that my native airfield was way too far away to reach with a leaking tank and a Messer hot on my tail so I turned North towards the airfield the Il-2s had taken-off from, hoping to reach it soon. There and then Vade came onto me again, I evaded him but lost sight. Predictably, seconds later I am wounded lightly, then heavily, and my aircraft wobbles a little. I hold onto it but I see that it will depart sooner or later so I let go of the stick, which sends my Yak into a spin, drop the canopy and bail out at low altitude. Thankfully the chute opens on time and I land safe and sound, even if my aircraft is a hot fireball by now.

 

It was a very exciting mission, and one that showed the wonders of coordination even when done casually through the chat.

There might or might not be a video of that fight in the future! 

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

I vote on "might", I've always dreamed of starring as Big Fat Target in one of those Hollywood films, this is my chance

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Hello Emil - saw you guys today, looking very professional doing your BF110 formation bombing of our warehouses in Stalingrad!

 

Hi Rekt thanks :D

 

Was that you in the P-40?

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Hi Rekt thanks :D

 

Was that you in the P-40?

Just found a very useful feature, Sortie Log, for example out Fw190 Flight Yesterday. I shot down 72AG_Tarantul in that: http://72ag-ded.ru/en/sortie/log/80763/?tour=4

Check you Logs guys, it counts every Event and lets you see who it was you shot down or damaged. 

I find a Yak-1 kill, but no P-40s. 

 

Edit: Probably the funniest Log. http://72ag-ded.ru/en/sortie/log/80677/?tour=4

Edited March 4, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Yes it was! I was patrolling down the river and saw you guys out of the corner of my eye. Tried to sneak up on you but the formation turned toward me after you dropped your bombs and all of sudden there were 110s everywhere LOL.

 

 

Thanks for the tip! Looks like I did get one after all (ran out of ammo and had to bug out before I saw him go down): http://72ag-ded.ru/en/sortie/80824/?tour=4

 

After the battle I shortened my tag from 'Rektpanzer' to just 'Rekt'...I wonder if the stats will carry over?

Dirty Basterd. We did try to chase you down, but I guess you pulled the pin and ran. I sprayed like crazy after you. 

See you. 

Edited March 4, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Yes it was! I was patrolling down the river and saw you guys out of the corner of my eye. Tried to sneak up on you but the formation turned toward me after you dropped your bombs and all of sudden there were 110s everywhere LOL.

 

 

We thought you were closer so turned back but it turns out you were far behind us and we could have just carried on running I think one of our gunners started firing and we had seen some flak firing and thought it was your guns.

 

You got a nice kill and we tried to chase but couldn't catch up.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

 

In the near future tonnage limit would be developed

Bombs over 1000kg inclusive are banned for bombers

and bombs over 51kg will be banned for a fighter, forgive and understand.

Soon it will be removed limit of 2 aircraft per session. There is private garage for all missions as there are aircraft in hangar so much and be in the game.

Also to be added Supply aircraft, points for Supply and aircraft with combat points are not final and will be further reviewed

Why are 1000kg Bombs not available for the Ju-87 StuKa then? It is quite clearly a Bomber. I understand that the 1800kg shouldn't be available anymore, but why not even the 1000?

[6./ZG26_Emil]

[6./ZG26_Emil]

[-DED-ASF]

Dear all!

Many Thanks for help in testing!

We finished the development of main technologies. 

At the moment we need to finish remaining blocks to the west and rebuild  the existing to new solutions.

Then we will start moving of the frontline, depending on the results of blocks. 

At this point we closing our beta test.

Wait for release 

[F/JG300_Gruber]

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Does that mean the server is offline now? 

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Our dive attack

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgUeUAMmncw

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Beautiful scene Emil. You guys ventured this unescorted?

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Beautiful scene Emil. You guys ventured this unescorted?

 

We had one 109 pilot 6./JG5_Thijs who you can see in the contrails. He killed an I-16 on the way out and that was the only enemy we saw. My glass is broken as I took a direct hit to the cockpit but my recorder stopped just before. Also you can see McKvack get his horizontal stabilizer blown off just before we go in to the dive :D

Edited March 5, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Emil

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Beautiful scene Emil. You guys ventured this unescorted?

All Stukas returned to Airfield, however some stupid T-34 Scrub was waiting on the Runway. 

I wouldn't mind the DED guys to remove tanks altogether, just for that reason. 

Two Stukas did crash on the runway after landing and the T-34 killed someone. 

[6./ZG26_Emil]

All Stukas returned to Airfield, however some stupid T-34 Scrub was waiting on the Runway. 

I wouldn't mind the DED guys to remove tanks altogether, just for that reason. 

Two Stukas did crash on the runway after landing and the T-34 killed someone. 

 

I do agree about the tanks they don't bring much to the table in my opinion. I think a Tank only server would be much more fun for the track toads

[7.GShAP/Silas]

All Stukas returned to Airfield, however some stupid T-34 Scrub was waiting on the Runway. 

I wouldn't mind the DED guys to remove tanks altogether, just for that reason. 

Two Stukas did crash on the runway after landing and the T-34 killed someone. 

 

 

Given how much fun I and the guys I fly with have had using the tanks and killing them from the air(easy when you know how), I can only disagree.  The entire story Lucas told above in post #219, for instance, was because three enemy panzers were attacking our fort protecting Dubovka.  Good fun was had by all(including the fighter pilots) and much needed depth was added to the operation.  As opposed to the the usual of anyone not in a fighter being the herbivore, with only AI to kill.

 

The dynamic of the front line airfield beginning in a neutral state with nearby tank spawns and airfields close enough for ground attack and CAS is awesome.  A couple days ago part of our group drove to the airfield, defeated enemy tanks and seized it.  The rest of us flew IL-2s to the bridge the enemy tanks would use to counterattack in a timely manner and destroyed it despite heavy AAA presence.  That is cool enough to keep me coming back forever.

 

Should there be some kind of warning message broadcast if enemy tanks attack one of your airfields?  Probably, yes.  But tanks add far too much for them to simply be removed.  FINALLY, fighter pilots(even bombers!) NEED tank busters if their precious front-line aerodromes get assaulted.  Or they can simply spawn at another airfield and add 5-10 minutes to their flying time, which is nothing to complain about if the enemy earned it.  Remember those armies down there?

 

EDIT:   I'm reminded of another moment maybe a week ago.  One of my teammates had driven a tank to an enemy airfield and was light-heartedly challenging the enemy to come kick him off of it.  One of the Axis said he'd called for a Stuka an hour ago and got no response. We asked him why he didn't simply bring a Stuka of his own and get the job done. He replied that he didn't like the Stuka.  Sorry if I have ZERO sympathy for someone like that.  Adapt and overcome, or spawn elsewhere.

Edited March 5, 2016 by Silas

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

I think the map shows if there is a tank nearby, no? I decided to challenge that once - I spawned, within 2 seconds an AP round kills my pilot in the cockpit. Brutal, and taught me a lesson. I brought bombs to the party in response but when I was halfway there the kids were gone.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

All Stukas returned to Airfield, however some stupid T-34 Scrub was waiting on the Runway. 

I wouldn't mind the DED guys to remove tanks altogether, just for that reason. 

Two Stukas did crash on the runway after landing and the T-34 killed someone. 

I do agree about the tanks they don't bring much to the table in my opinion. I think a Tank only server would be much more fun for the track toads

 

 

I have to disagree with this. Tanks are not your cup of tea, and it is the same for many pilots here but it is a nice addition to the game and can bring some additional dynamic in the game.

I don't understand why did you tried to land on that airfield, the icon was very likely showing that the base was under ground attack, so you should have diverted to another airfield. 

 

Tanks have their place on DED, and I like when some people take them because it can bring some interesting cat and mouse play between him and my stuka. Much more interesting than shooting at standing still T34 on the middle of a road. And the mechanic implemented of capturing the airfields with tanks is well thinked. I have much respect for people spending sometimes 45min driving around, taking out defenses patiently and finally capturing a frontline airfield that will help his team increasing the pressure on the frontline. 

 

What is lacking currently is that the tank's role is more or less restricted to that only, and they dont have anything else to do other than raiding enemy airfields. 

I tried tanks once to attack a fortified position but there is no significant targets you can take out with your gun. Dugouts, watch towers, ammo crates, small buildings, bridges, all of them can only be destroyed by bombing alone. So you are left with taking out AAA and the few trucks that lies there with your machinegun. Not really interesting nor rewarding. No wonders they go ambush people on airfields instead. 

 

If something needs to be done about tanks IMHO, it's change some of the ground targets settings so that tanks can also play they part in taking out objectives and destroy stuffs. I see no point removing them. 

 

[Vade]

There you go Lucas: 

 

Really enjoyed that! 

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

"Finally!"

That was very fun indeed, thanks for uploading. Things look completely different from your cockpit, but despite a few blatant mistakes I think I put up a decent fight. Looking forward to the next chance meeting

 

PS: That landing was painful to watch, you were so close!

Edited March 6, 2016 by Lucas_From_Hell

[SR-F_Winger]

Whats wrong with the server? Yesterday it wasnt there. Today i was on it for a minute then it dissapeared.

Very sad. My most favorite server top fly on. When i fly:)

 

Its there now:)

Edited March 6, 2016 by StG2_Winger

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Fear not, they're getting the final version of it done based on the information collected during beta. It should be back soon.