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[SvAF/F16_OndaAnkan]

Would it be possible to get the map back on your webpage? Thanks

[72AG_Crusader]

Would it be possible to get the map back on your webpage? Thanks

Click on map-picture and it opens in new tab.

Mission planner loads not as fast as needed to show it on the main page.

[Ala13_elchinodecai]

HI guys, I keep getting disconnected from this server, got a message saying 

 

DXVBufferMan11::vb(;
DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED

 

then my pc crashed

 

I'm loosing not only points for my team, but also "fairplay" points for this reason, would any of you guys know why is this happening to me?
It's been happening since last update, not before, could it be my rusty old grafic card?
Thank you mates!

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Great planeset !

[72AG_Crusader]

HI guys, I keep getting disconnected from this server, got a message saying 

 

DXVBufferMan11::vb(;

DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED

 

then my pc crashed

 

I'm loosing not only points for my team, but also "fairplay" points for this reason, would any of you guys know why is this happening to me?

It's been happening since last update, not before, could it be my rusty old grafic card?

Thank you mates!

Hello.

Did you ask game technical support?

[JaffaCake]

Looks like Waffles are going to get destroyed with this planeset :D

[Antiguo]

Hello, these days, I'm having some problems with my internet connection.

Because of this, the server kicks me out of the game.

In my statistics, it counts as disconnected and my Fair play decreases by leaps and bounds.

You can see how in the campaign test 3 I had no problems (Ala 13_Antiguo)

Could you restore me the Fair Play? , Since my disconnections were involuntary (they were due to technical problems)

 

 

regards

[Ala13_elchinodecai]

Hello.

Did you ask game technical support?

Done, thank  you mate!

[216th_Jordan]

Server shows 0:00:00 and has no stats of last mission:

 

http://72ag-ded.ru/en/?tour=9

[72AG_Crusader]

Server shows 0:00:00 and has no stats of last mission:

 

http://72ag-ded.ru/en/?tour=9

Yes. Server commander crashed down. Fixed it now. But mission #1760 was not processed correctly

 

Hello, these days, I'm having some problems with my internet connection.

Because of this, the server kicks me out of the game.

In my statistics, it counts as disconnected and my Fair play decreases by leaps and bounds.

You can see how in the campaign test 3 I had no problems (Ala 13_Antiguo)

Could you restore me the Fair Play? , Since my disconnections were involuntary (they were due to technical problems)

 

 

regards

 

Sorry, man. I can't do that.

Fair Play restores by 5% per flight hour. This may be discussed. I probably can increase restore rate.

[Antiguo]

ok  ..Thanks 

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

Something odd happened last night.  Spawned in an IL-2.  The message said I had 6 mods.  Made a successful run with 5 tank kills.  I landed OK.  On my next spawn it said I had 5 mods.  I made another successful run after that but forgot to check if it reduced the mod number again.

Edited May 17, 2017 by 12.OIAE_Stick-95

[72AG_Crusader]

Something odd happened last night.  Spawned in an IL-2.  The message said I had 6 mods.  Made a successful run with 5 tank kills.  I landed OK.  On my next spawn it said I had 5 mods.  I made another successful run after that but forgot to check if it reduced the mod number again.

Mods limit decreased to 5. See campaign notes above.

[216th_Jordan]

It seems that the last mission won by VVS did not change the frontline although the reference point was taken. (somewhere between 2110 and 2011 I think)

[LeFrenchCat]

Dang..... Server just crashed 15min before round's end and we had victory. :/ 

Edited May 19, 2017 by [VODKA]Wolfakov

[216th_Jordan]

Dang..... Server just crashed 15min before round's end and we had victory. :/ 

 

Yeah, bad luck. Now axis has won again

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

One thing I see happening all the time right now is the Russian Fighters camping over Russian Ground Objectives and German Fighters over German Ground Objectives and they just fly around there waiting for Attackers and Bombers because they are Easy Targets. 

 

When I fly Ground Attack and ask for our Fighters to Cover a Certain Target and establish temporary Air-Superiority to allow the Ground Attackers to Destroy the Targets all I get in return is Silence. 

None of the Fighter Guys ever respond when I ask for Protection. All they do is wait for Enemy Heavies. 

 

This means that as a Ground Attackers we fly into Enemy Territory, without Protection (we are a small Squad, normally with 2-6 Guys flying and we are Ground Pounders, not Fighter Pilots) and get Raped by waiting Fighters. 

I sometimes ask in Chat 10 times in a Row with 1 Minute Intervalls without a single Response. 

 

I'm really frustrated by the Lack of Co-Operation of Heavies and Fighters. The Fighters are just there for the Easy Kills and I am basically nothing but an easy Target at this Point. 

Because the Ground Pounders are also Frustrated they don't fly anymore and the Fighters now just Hang around near the Airfields waiting to enter stupid Dogfights. 

[216th_Jordan]

I think it is mostly a problem of getting shot down and always being captured in the process. It's definitley different in TAW where there are lots of groups fighting over enemy territory. People who are going for ground targets are accepting their fate as of now.

 

 

A different thing: Right now destroying trains only gives 2 CP! The enemy trains are normally deep within enemy territory and normally close to enemy bases plus they have a lot of deadly AA guns and as they respawn only every 20 minutes. Maybe it would be good to increase the points to 8 CP for one destroyed Train. A convoy that is much easier to destroy gives you even 10 CP, which seems a bit off in comparison.

Edited May 20, 2017 by 216th_Jordan

[72AG_Crusader]

One thing I see happening all the time right now is the Russian Fighters camping over Russian Ground Objectives and German Fighters over German Ground Objectives and they just fly around there waiting for Attackers and Bombers because they are Easy Targets. 

 

When I fly Ground Attack and ask for our Fighters to Cover a Certain Target and establish temporary Air-Superiority to allow the Ground Attackers to Destroy the Targets all I get in return is Silence. 

None of the Fighter Guys ever respond when I ask for Protection. All they do is wait for Enemy Heavies. 

 

This means that as a Ground Attackers we fly into Enemy Territory, without Protection (we are a small Squad, normally with 2-6 Guys flying and we are Ground Pounders, not Fighter Pilots) and get Raped by waiting Fighters. 

I sometimes ask in Chat 10 times in a Row with 1 Minute Intervalls without a single Response. 

 

I'm really frustrated by the Lack of Co-Operation of Heavies and Fighters. The Fighters are just there for the Easy Kills and I am basically nothing but an easy Target at this Point. 

Because the Ground Pounders are also Frustrated they don't fly anymore and the Fighters now just Hang around near the Airfields waiting to enter stupid Dogfights. 

Yeap. I know that.

I think about obvious idea to make possible bombers transfer unlocks to fighters through chat commands. But it is really not perfect solution for this situation. May be somebody have more ideas?

Dang..... Server just crashed 15min before round's end and we had victory. :/ 

yesterday evening (20 May) there was critical issue with frontline mechanism. I solved a problem, but haven't implemented protection yet. It needs some time to implement. I have no so much free time to spent for server now.

Edited May 20, 2017 by 72AG_Crusader

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

 

 

Yeap. I know that. I think about obvious idea to make possible bombers transfer unlocks to fighters through chat commands. But it is really not perfect solution for this situation. May be somebody have more ideas?

 

The Worst Thing is: The Fighters are doing 1 Part of their Job correctly. The Fighters should Protect the Friendly Targets and shoot down Enemy Heavies.  The Fighters are partly doing their Job correctly. 

 

But: How do you get them to also Protect their own Attacking Airplanes? They don't care about Winning Reference Points or anything. They don't care about winning  Missions, they just want Kills, the easier the better. They are basically like Plancton that has to be Guided in the Right Direction. And frankly, I am sorry for comparing Plancton to Fighter Pilots. 

 

Sorry Plancton, you are smarter than them. 

[HR_Tumu]

Is posible some kind of reward for cover??

 

please more flack over bases. Is supose a safe place       

[Lusekofte]

 

 

Sorry Plancton, you are smarter than them. 

 

Well , all though I  LOL at this remark, I can see your frustration is equal to mine. But commenting to a group you want cooperation with as less than plancton is maybe not the right way to go around the problem....

Or is it, plancton is the most needed resource we got in the ocean.....

You are clever.

 

I think there is a answer in how to give point in their stats, I suspect stats are very important. Is it possible to give a fighter double kills if he save a bomber ? Are there triggers for such a possibility?

For my sake, and this is why I havent touch this game since last FNBF The level of frustration is higher than the level of enjoyment. I am in there to do a job, and being nothing else than easy targets for FPS attituded WT pilots is simply in my mind sickening. And hearing them afterward if you get a shot at them about sniper gunners or Russian bias plane developers make it even worse. 

[LeFrenchCat]

Must be a problem on german side. I'm not seeing the same thing in russian side.

Top 10 live pilots features 8 bombers, including 6 Pe-2 and one IL2 pilots. I haven't been shotdown for my last 20ish Pe-2 combat missions - and I have very little experience and flight time in IL2.  Not flying straight from airfield to target at 2/3K altitude helps a lot. 


Also, i'm wondering where the complain is coming from. According to your stat, you haven't been killed or captured for the whole campaign, and only lost a few of P-40 and i-16



Regarding fighters escort doing points... it will probably boils down to how to script that !

Maybe giving X points / minute spent over enemy territory would give them an incentive to escort bombers away from the father/motherland's safety. (and give more point to bomber going for more deep warehouses/HQ).

Edited May 21, 2017 by [VODKA]Wolfakov

[216th_Jordan]

Maybe giving X points / minute spent over enemy territory would give them an incentive to escort bombers away from the father/motherland's safety. (and give more point to bomber going for more deep warehouses/HQ).

 

Great suggestion actually!

[Lusekofte]

I havent flown in a while, last attempt I got kicked, probably because of not having mods availeable. That is a frustrating thing not getting the message about it when hud is off. 

I normally fly PE 2 and have to abort missions quite often, landing at base with one kill on a 109 last time.  I do not mind getting kills, neither have to land for damage due to attacks. It is part of the fun, but that is not why I fly. Salute to the 109 pilot though, no chat scream about sniper gunner this time.

 

I do not complain per se on my situation, But i can relate to what Klaus say here, A better cooperation among bombers and fighters should be the aim. 

My biggest problem personally is the need for flying several long missions with only 6 x 100 kg bombs . Witch is very little. I have problem with time to fly, Last attempt I had to try to fill up with mods was wasted since I was away from PC for too long. 

My part of this discussion is in general not this server. Why I am not flying here is more of the kind I see no point spending 1,5 hours to deliver 6 x 100 kg bombs.

I rather fly choppers in DCS when given the choise, that is how priorities goes 

Edited May 21, 2017 by 216th_LuseKofte

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

A-20 will make so many Things better.

[Lusekofte]

Personally I think the PE 2 is the best option for bombing as for today, you actually got a chance if the attackers is not too smart about it. The A 20 I believe will  be a bit different. But I will love flying it, My personal favorite in the old game alongside with the beufighter and B 25. You can do so much with them

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

What frustrates me more than being fresh meat for camping fighters is that you get punished even more for flying bombers by losing all your mods and having to fly a 20+ min resupply mission. Map times means there's hardly any chance to attack the HQ and return back to base by mission end.

 

There's also no gain from winning a mission (like getting extra aircraft or special mods for your side) so everybody fights for his personal sucess which can't be any easier than with a fighter.

 

An effective way to stop the camping above ground targets would be to spread them out from another and move them away from the current 10km radius around airfields like I said before. Increase mission time so bombers can takeoff from the safer rear airfields without fearing the mission will rotate before reaching their target. Multiply the points gained by bombers for mods and additional aircraft by 2 as appreciation of their suicidal but essential effort in winning the mission. Also the frontline bonus mentioned by Wolfakov.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

But we have to take not to have Measures like these encourage Camping around Enemy Airfields.  

Also the frontline bonus mentioned by Wolfakov.

 

[IRRE_Centx]

About cooperation on Russian side: I literally rage quitted last week...

Germans were well organised, destroying ground targets after ground targets (and I have no problem with that, good job from them)

 

 

I spammed in the tchat that we needed il-2s and fighter cover on the German tanks to stop their progression.

Destroying the tanks only once was enough to avoid an easy win.

Spent almost 1 hour trying to destroy the tanks, alone, spamming again and again in the tchat for help...

Got shot down twice, only had a fighter cover for 10 minutes (an useless one since I got shot down, but it was okay the guys warned me they were beginners)...

 

About 20-25 players on Russian side: half of them were bombing warehouses and fortified areas in Pe-2s, and all other were in fighters... somewhere on the map, don't know where, since they never did a single kill.

 

Result: German win 10 minutes before the end of the map, with about 240 CP to 150 CP...

2 tanks were still alive *facepalm*

 

 

 

Soviet side cooperation is almost inexistant 90% of time...

[LeFrenchCat]

 

Got shot down twice, only had a fighter cover for 10 minutes (an useless one since I got shot down, but it was okay the guys warned me they were beginners)...

We were busy killing someone else :D

 

 

 

But we have to take not to have Measures like these encourage Camping around Enemy Airfields.

 

 

You don't want enemy to defend their objective, then you don't want them to intercept you ?  What are supposed the fighter doing then ? :D

 

More easy. Let's remove fighters from server.

 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Support Ground Attackers by Camping Enemy Objectives so the Ground Attackers can Peacefully Pound away at them without enemy Fighters interrupting them. 

And I'm not complaining about Fighters Covering their own targets for the Mission's Sake, but when there is a demand for Cover the Fighters should respond to it. 

Edited May 23, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

[216th_Jordan]

It's also funny though. Yesterday there were severeal people offering fightercover when the server was full. Not one person was responding..

[CCG_bexhausted]

I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, to have a real cooperation on an open server.

It can be done only rarely according to good will and the chance of connections between people who don't know each other. For an escort to be possible, bombers and hunters must connect at about the same time for it to be effective.

I only fly bombers. But I imagine it must be very annoying for a fighter pilot to drag himself over a bomber for a hypothetical encounter with an enemy fighter somewhere. A bomber pilot is certain that his objective will be there. For my part, I only had an escort from my team-mates.

But I have often been able to cooperate with other bomber pilots to focus on objectives.

It seems to me that for quite a few pilots to achieve the goals to win the mission is not a priority. And it is quite respectable. One may just want to fly and destroy some targets on the ground or in flight.

 

Thanks to Google translation. I hope you understand what i want to say.   

Edited May 23, 2017 by -LaFrench-bexhausted

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

It seems to me that for quite a few pilots to achieve the goals to win the mission is not a priority. And it is quite respectable. One may just want to fly and destroy some targets on the ground or in flight.

Because they have practicly no gain from winning the mission (movign the frontline is really no satisfying acchievement for those players).

On the subject of escorting bombers, it's sth I regularity did when flying fighters and not being engaged behind friednly lines. It's only profitable for both because it gives the bombers confidence to fly deeper into enemy territory and they can draw attention from enemy fighters to get you some easy kills. If more fighter pilots were to realise that we wouldn't have that discussion at all.

Of course lack of cooperation is an issue for both sides equally and is difficult to solve.

 

Another possebility that comes to my mind would be to introduce a win/loss ratio in the pilot statistics so that stat warriors have sth to worry about if they don't do their job properly.

[Herne]

Flew in this server for the first time last night with a friend, had a great time, love the hardcore rules. as we spawned 5 ju 87's were preparing to launch. We were in 109's and decided to fly cover. A 109 dove down aggressively on them over the target area, so I engaged and opened fire, just a short 1 second burst, before I realised he was friendly. Later we got swamped by enemy fighters, my friend and I got shot down, but I hope the stukas were able to get to their targets.

 

Not aware that I was banned, certainly I didn't get kicked immediately, we didn't respawn because the map was about to cycle, so we headed over to WoL. I do look forward to flying some more over on this server, but I do think the friendly fire zero tolerance is a little harsh. Accidents happen. As a VR user, sometimes more often than I would like, but it is never intentional.

[Ala13_elchinodecai]

Hi guy!!!

First of all I'd like to thank all of you, developers, server and players for all the work and the hours of fun that me and my squadron are enjoying every evening.

 

I'm sorry if this is not the right place to write this.

I'm kinda hopeless.

After the last update I've been having some troubles with disconnections, but, suddenly it fixed by itself, until 

yesterday, when  I got 3 disconnections on my bombing run, and today the same, one of them right after getting 40+ ground kills.

my  fair play just dropped subsequently  and I cannot fly with my mates.

Disconnection  lasts about 1 minute or less, and then got back as if nothing happened, (completely offline, TS, Browser, game)
I got a message (sometimes) saying is a DNS problem.

I changed my DNS to google ones but the problem persist.

Could any of you guys help me please?
Thank you.

 

Ala13_Elchinodecai

 

 

[216th_Jordan]

Hi guy!!!

First of all I'd like to thank all of you, developers, server and players for all the work and the hours of fun that me and my squadron are enjoying every evening.

 

I'm sorry if this is not the right place to write this.

I'm kinda hopeless.

After the last update I've been having some troubles with disconnections, but, suddenly it fixed by itself, until 

yesterday, when  I got 3 disconnections on my bombing run, and today the same, one of them right after getting 40+ ground kills.

my  fair play just dropped subsequently  and I cannot fly with my mates.

Disconnection  lasts about 1 minute or less, and then got back as if nothing happened, (completely offline, TS, Browser, game)

I got a message (sometimes) saying is a DNS problem.

I changed my DNS to google ones but the problem persist.

Could any of you guys help me please?

Thank you.

 

Ala13_Elchinodecai

 

This rather belongs in the Technical Issues subsection then here (you will likely find a little more help there).

To me it sounds a lot like your ISP (Internet service provider) has some routing problems to your location or your router has timeouts (old hardware/ overheating/ etc.). What you can do in any case is: Make sure that your router is located somewhere where it does not get too hot (no sunlight!) and where there is enough ventilation for it. Also try to find out if your ISP has a history of bad servicing in your area.

[Ala13_elchinodecai]

This rather belongs in the Technical Issues subsection then here (you will likely find a little more help there).

To me it sounds a lot like your ISP (Internet service provider) has some routing problems to your location or your router has timeouts (old hardware/ overheating/ etc.). What you can do in any case is: Make sure that your router is located somewhere where it does not get too hot (no sunlight!) and where there is enough ventilation for it. Also try to find out if your ISP has a history of bad servicing in your area.

Thank you, It does, I moved to a beautiful village in the mountains and got a not so slow internet connection but rather unreliable.

I'll contact them and cross my fingers is not going to take ages to send the technician.

In the other hand, is there any way to raise my "fair play" again?

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Could the Cooperation Issue also be a Language Barrier Issue? Given that many People only have a very limited Grasp of the English Language this may just not translate into Cooperation very well. 

Maybe they just don't understand what I'm trying to say when I write: "Can we get some Fighters to Cover Southern Fort. Area please?" but I just don't know how to say it in much simpler terms so that even Fighter Pilots understand it. 

Should I say: "fighters .... go     2617 ..... 109s yummy yummy!!!"  ? 

 

I'm at the End of my Latin here. 

Edited May 23, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann