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[1stCL/Fucida]

Hayes, I've one very special song just for you, mate 

 

 

 

To all pilots on I-16s: You have my deep respect. I know, that current situation is a challenge for you. Salut!

Edited January 5, 2017 by 1stCL/Fucida

[606_hayes]

really???

...tak si pohonte ego a schovajte to za krasne reci o respekte :D......

[SvAF/F19_Tomten]

It seems people are not aware that there I NO SKIN DOWNLOAD in the game. If you put on a custom skin others only see a default skin if they did not download your skin previously...

 

I don't even know where to find this skin.. Would be great to know since the VVS seem very fond of the Tante Ju.

[216th_Jordan]

Hayes, I've one very special song just for you, mate 

 

 

 

To all pilots on I-16s: You have my deep respect. I know, that current situation is a challenge for you. Salut!

 

Its not that bad, I-16 vs Emil is actually loads of fun (for both sides I think)!

Last mission I got 3 kills in my Ishak and also its fun to fly.

Should it change to Mig-3/F-2 some time in the future Reds will be screwed though, half of the planes will be lost on takeoff and landing

[72AG_Crusader]

Hi,

 

Ground kills by Jabo stay on no gain in points (except flight time)?

Fighters gain 25% points for ground kills

[Lusekofte]

I don't even know where to find this skin.. Would be great to know since the VVS seem very fond of the Tante Ju.

 

The pre purchase gave a yellow blue russian skin, I thought this skin was in all installs like custom skins are. This way it should be visible 

for all.

Is this the case?

Anyway, I was until a week ago a great defender of Russian JU 52´s but at some point we need to reconsider and cave in. The JU 52 do not work on the Russian side as long as skins is not visible for absolutely all, and there is a genuine interest from all parties to make it work. You got people taking advantage and use German skin for all it is worth, just face it, you cannot get rid of those. Easies and most sensible solution is just to refuse Russians to use it, and admit, when it comes to bombers and transports German side have it all. While Russian side got the sturdy PE 2. And in general only 50 % of the numbers Luftwaffe have. 

Personally I think the unbalance in team is a sign if sickness witch should be dealt with, Russian side got a lot of ground pounders and are not in near future to receive any new stuff in that department. Hence me trying out fighters, with less  than desired result I might add. Being fighting with max 500 kg bombs against a double the size force equipped with single engined bombers with 1800 kg bombs. The fact that the Russian suggest to get something in this department, you normally get spammed by Luftwaffe pilots that say this is not a valid request ,  because German side need a spotter or similar

Edited January 6, 2017 by 216th_LuseKofte

[JG1_Pragr]

Fighters gain 25% points for ground kills

 

I'm not sure it's working. 

 

http://72ag-ded.ru/en/sortie/97890/?tour=6

 

25 % bonus for landing and 25 % for coalition win the map. No bonus for fighter. Maybe the 109 with bomb is considered as bomber?

[IRRE_Centx]

To all pilots on I-16s: You have my deep respect. I know, that current situation is a challenge for you. Salut!

 

Actually the I-16 VS E7/110 is probably the most balanced matchup of BoS/BoM, no matter what some criers say.

 

Last time I was alone in my I-16 against two 110s and two E7s... well, I got the two 110s before they bring me down xD

And they had me because I was in a really bad position (almost stalling) after shooting the second 110, if they didn't had me at this moment I think I could just escape.

 

I-16 is a surprising beast against those opponents when you know how to use it (well of course when there will be the 109 F2... will be problematic).

 

 

 

 

With a bit more balanced numbers of pilots from each side to avoid those 1v4 matchups, would be so much fun :D

[=FEW=ayamoth89]

Hi mate,

 

when i opened fire and kill us both, this was bad idea and this was my fault, i was hitting my head when it exploded and i am sorry! But, please, don´t try to throw all the blame on me. You hit mi from behind and from side, so the colision wasn´t my fault. 

 

I don´t want to unleash some fight, hope it will never happen again.

 

S!

You are wrong. My squadron saw you rolling left due to your engine's torque probably and you touched my plane from the right side.

[COBRA_CZ]

it;s not racing.......if bf-110 or bf-109 recognize the i-16 on "six", I-16 have no chance to short the distance and kill. Bf can go to light dive or with "boost" one or two minutes can make a a altitude advantage......it;s not balanced planset....it;s not.

and BF110 is almost same. Came to target and level 2000+, dive to target, drop bombs and fly home. and now we have two options: I16 above bf110....but bf110 can dive and I16 can......dive too but without effect. second option : I16 are below bf110, so bf110 can shot some i16, drop the bombs and fly home.  ...

and this is experience from this evening......

 

red can only defend. germans are able to stop fight whenever they want.

..and this how its look like on server every evening...  http://www.rajce.net/f1129281721  

 

a pre tých prisprostých, ktorí majú problém s mojou angličtinou to napíšem aj po slovensky.

toto nie je zavodná hra.

Ak bf110 alebo bf109 za rozpozná za sebou I16, tak tá nemá žiadnu šancu ju dobehnúť a zostreliť. Bf môže isť do mierneho klesania alebo s "boostom" nabrať výškovú prevahu a odstúpať.  ..... nie je to balancovaný planest...nie je.

a bf110 je skoro to isté. priletí k cielu vo výške 2000+, strmhlavo to pustí dole, odhodí bomby a spokone letí domov. a I16 má v podstate dve možnosti. alebo bude nad: a bf110 si to klesne k cielu a I16 ...moôže klesnúť tiež ale bez efektu. alebo je I16 pod bf110tkymi, takže bf110 môže po ceste k cielu zostreliť ešte jednu dve I16tky.

 

pri tomto nastavení leitadiel sa mlžu červení iba brániť.

...a nieco o prečislení , ktoré je bežné snáď každý večer na servere.......link above

 

OMG ty jsi ale plačkař , přestaň tu dělat ostudu CZ/SK komunitě a jdi si takto plakat na SVK a ne tu.

A jestli ti to nejde a umíš létat jen s Yak-1B tak jdi na WOL a nehraj toto a už vůbec tu neplač, je to event je pro některé hráče a jak to tak vypadá ty tím typem hráče nejsi.

[HR_Tumu]

)))

 

 

stop dreaming Centix, u cant escape from emil or bf110 running. 

 

 

 

I-16 vs any german fighters ( present in game ) never can be  a "balanced" dogfight... because the german if have enought altitude always can dive and run very, very easy , and escape ¿where is the balanced?.... on my last mision we end 5 I-16 running rear a   pair of 110 whit one escort....   we are running near 6 sector until enemy base... over enemy base we was killed... very, very funny... for germans of course

 

For a Balanced dogfight need balanced planes... similar speeds, turn rate and climb/dive.... I-16 due low speed service only cant hunt a enemy if do a surprise attack... after lose surprise factor... nothing to do with enemy , enemy for survive only have to dive... run and wiht some speed start a slow climb... i-16 never catch him.... this its no balanced dogfight, friend.

 

On dogfight cant be balanced if one of both fighters allways can end combat, running if he lose advantage. 

 

Last thing, maybe im not the best i-16 pilot. But i think i know about i am talking  )

 

Of course I16 vs emils and Bf110 are very funny, but not is balanced, for balanced ,need a Mig-3

and not its a cry cuestion , trust me its a evidence... if combat end on a race... u really think its balanced , your oponent its 30 km/h more fast than you.  The question its... what its balanced for us ?  for me want say 2 fighters have the same oportunities , maybe im wrong. the most balanced dogfight will be if both pilots have the same plane no? .

 

On next maps Migs vs a F2 i think will be more balanced.

 

Edited January 6, 2017 by RedEye_Tumu

[IRRE_Centx]

stop dreaming Centix, u cant escape from emil or bf110 running. 

 

Then explain me how I can run after 110s while level flying, and catch them?

My own I-16 is boosted and I have a special Stalinium engine? 

 

It takes time but it's possible...

 

 

 

If you climb at 3-4k alt, yes Germans have the advantage... But why you go fight on THEIR altitude? Of course if you give them the possibility to outdive you, they'll run away.

And it's not even a problem of I-16 vs Germans, it's the same case for EVERY Soviet plane against 109s (well maybe except Mig-3, I can give you this one)

 

You want to destroy German planes? Camp over Soviet objectives at less than 1000m... Best targets to defend at low altitude: dropzones, artillery and convoys. Don't try to defend hard the warehouses, here the 110s can dive from high alt and YES you will never have them in this case.

Bring the 109s/110s to the deck over those objectives, force them to lose energy.

With a bit of patience over objectives, you just have to wait and catch them, not hard.

 

Yes, a 109 camping at 4k alt you'll be never able to destroy it. But if you play smart, he will never destroy you neither. So...

 

 

And if they really want to run, let them run, stop chasing over enemy bases... 

Better stay over objective, wait for the next one coming than chasing one for 20 minutes...

 

 

 

People on this server know how to fly, that's sure, but lack of STRATEGY...

Edited January 6, 2017 by -IRRE-Centx

[HR_Tumu]

for apply this tactics... i think my weapon will be il 2

 

thx for suggestions centix.

[JG1_Pragr]

Btw, is there any info of how many points pilot/squad get for paratroops drops? Any many points Ju 52 costs?

[606_hayes]

if I stay on 1000m altitude...bf come in 1500 and I again can;t do anything, only very bad bf-109 allow lose energy and start turning with I-16.

 

 

 

 

a walter STFU, i try to change this planeset because it;s unbalanced. if you like to be on parachute it;s your problem.  Or you are flying the geraman plane and you are afraid of lose the advatage what you have now? :D

btw: i don;t like zak-1b,

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

if I stay on 1000m altitude...bf come in 1500 and I again can;t do anything, only very bad bf-109 allow lose energy and start turning with I-16.

 

 

 

 

a walter STFU, i try to change this planeset because it;s unbalanced. if you like to be on parachute it;s your problem.  Or you are flying the geraman plane and you are afraid of lose the advatage what you have now? :D

btw: i don;t like zak-1b,

Climb Rate of I-16 is waaay higher than 109E. almost 19m/s against Emils 16m/s. You can catch 109s in a climb. 

[Tuesday]

I like the limited plane set as it forces people to try something different in the game; and as we can see by the moaning, it's something that some folks aren't used to, and they are upset that they have to learn a new way to play.  Becomes increasingly more difficult with the points system limitations on aircraft set up.

 

I think we all play flight simulators because we like to learn - there's no way to succeed in this game without learning the hard way through trial and error.  The Expert-settings servers certainly enforce that. 

 

Looking forward to flying some more on this server again. 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

I don't get it as well. Why spend hundreds of Dollars on a Game and then limiting yourself to a small Portion of it. 

[606_hayes]

and i really like how german pilot still talking abou breaking the limits and moving things on new level and learning, but only german pilots do it. They really cant learn anything. just using advatages of plane and fly in straight line up and down:D

 

if you like learning a new things and new ways of flying....red side could fly on ....yak, or lagg and mig and you can learn new level of flying on bf109E and ....stukas:D

[sinned]

....we... must... not... fight.

 

Vvs... or... lw.... friends... immersion.. important.... balance... good... please

.... let ... us.. all... get... along.

[Trinkof]

and i really like how german pilot still talking abou breaking the limits and moving things on new level and learning, but only german pilots do it. They really cant learn anything. just using advatages of plane and fly in straight line up and down:D

 

if you like learning a new things and new ways of flying....red side could fly on ....yak, or lagg and mig and you can learn new level of flying on bf109E and ....stukas:D

I Played almost exclusivel reds for the past two years .... A couple of hours a day .... And I strongly advise anyone to learn to play both sides,(and I mean more than a couple of time for fun)

 

It really is needed to make sense in any discussion regarding FM and "balance"

 

And please could you stop with your "STFU" it does not help your case and in fact it makes you look like an angry kid, while not helping the debate ...

 

Throwing name and insult at each other is usually seen on TAW or WOL topic... And I would appreciate if this behaviour could stay ther. This server and topic has always been populated by gentlemen for the past years...

 

S !

Edited January 6, 2017 by LAL_Trinkof

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

And i really like how german pilots are still talking about breaking the limits and moving things on to a new level [and] of learning, but only german pilots do it [gibberish sentence 0 Points]. They really can't learn anything, they are just using the advantages of their planes and fly in straight line, up and down. [:D] [still gibberish 0 Points]

 

if you like learning [a] new things and new ways of flying [....] red side could fly on [....] Yak, or LaGG and MiG and you can learn new level of flying on Bf109 E and [....] Stukas. [:D] [still makes no dicernible sense, you make dots were there should be none, and leave them out where they should be. Makes it really antagonizing and hateful to read and respond to. The Argument Structure is severely Lacking in Substance]

Edited January 6, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

[CSW_GC3_Chroust]

This planetset very good idea. Especially for us, new pilots BoS/M..Have the opportunity to learn to fly and even machines with whom to another server was just a victim.

Not only F4 vs Jak1B

Vulching my plane after landing had not be so funny but this is war :D

Thx admin for their work..

 

Sorry me english.. 90% google translator.

 

S!

Edited January 6, 2017 by =FCU=Mira73

[W_Schulz]

this is my resolution on ballance in game

 

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/lento_ohjeet/inpursuit/inpursuit.pdf

 

Pls read this if have time, and have fun in game:)

[606_hayes]

 

And i really like how german pilots are still talking about breaking the limits and moving things on to a new level [and] of learning, but only german pilots do it [gibberish sentence 0 Points]. They really can't learn anything, they are just using the advantages of their planes and fly in straight line, up and down. [:D] [still gibberish 0 Points]

 

if you like learning [a] new things and new ways of flying [....] red side could fly on [....] Yak, or LaGG and MiG and you can learn new level of flying on Bf109 E and [....] Stukas. [:D] [still makes no dicernible sense, you make dots were there should be none, and leave them out where they should be. Makes it really antagonizing and hateful to read and respond to. The Argument Structure is severely Lacking in Substance]

 

Thank you very much for correction. Now I know what I said or wrote or........ oh sorry you don;t like it.....again.....OMG :D....

[1stCL/Punkey]

Lea;ve hi;m b;e

[72AG_Crusader]

I'm not sure it's working. 

 

http://72ag-ded.ru/en/sortie/97890/?tour=6

 

25 % bonus for landing and 25 % for coalition win the map. No bonus for fighter. Maybe the 109 with bomb is considered as bomber?

Statistics points and server credits are different values. IL-2 stats made by =FB=vaal and I do not change anything in its code.

[CSW_GC3_Chroust]

Lea;ve hi;m b;e

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2017 by =FCU=Mira73

[IRRE_Centx]

"I-16 bad plane"

"OMG Germans OP"

"Soviets can't win against 109 and 110 with only Rata"

 

 

Just saying:

 

The top 20 of server players, classed by air kills: 12 Soviets and 8 Germans

 

 

 

 

 

My own stats (considering myself as an average player, clearly not the best xD): 13 sorties in I-16, 8 air kills, 3 times I don't bring back the plane (with 2 ramms...)

 

 

[606_hayes]

I didn;t write that I16 is bad,

I didn;t write that bf is OP,

 

to the rest of your answer:

 

Edited January 6, 2017 by 606_hayes

[Matthias_PDX]

There's an awful lot of emotion in there for someone who doesn't care.

[SvAF/F19_Tomten]

plz nerf i16 i got kil /s

[Willy__]

Hayes, if you really think the germans have an easy time, why dont you fly the blue side for a little ? You will see that the i16s are a real threat.

[606_hayes]

I tried BF-109E7 and i;m looking forward to flying blue side.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

I tried BF-109E7 and i;m looking forward to flying blue side.

 

Don't disconnect when you would get i16 on your ass, as you were doing flying i16.

 

 

 

h;a;ve nice ;s;hiny day;s;

Edited January 7, 2017 by 307_Tomcat

[SYN_Repent]

 

 

 

To all pilots on I-16s: You have my deep respect. I know, that current situation is a challenge for you. Salut!

 

Glad you do fucida, a certain few dont have any respect, a certain MARVIK chute killed me after i was fighting with 4 109's single handedly, maybe frustration in the end, but it was intentional and a lack of respect.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Glad you do fucida, a certain few dont have any respect, a certain MARVIK chute killed me after i was fighting with 4 109's single handedly, maybe frustration in the end, but it was intentional and a lack of respect.

 

Those things (among them is mentioned respect) are sadly not the same as in Rise of Flight.

Edited January 7, 2017 by 307_Tomcat

[Lusekofte]

I think the I 16 demands pilot discipline and a great deal of thinking. Those flying I 16 and migrated to LAGG and MIG did not boost their kill rate. The discipline and skill required I sadly do not have, but I 16 is still a fantastic experience. Absolutely adored it when it was released, I feel it is kind of my little pet

[606_hayes]

tomcat: you are disconnect master, not me. Oh sorry I forgot you have very unstable connection. It's interesting how many disconnection I have, and how many you have.

my disconnection master.

[ACG_KaiLae]

If you have the Ju-52 and do a cargo run with it - carrying, cargo - do you get more points? If not, should you get more points?