72AG-DED- Random Expert +

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Flying the Soviet Ju-52, I got TKed 3 times and really had to convinve the germans to do it as well. 

[6./ZG26_Custard]

Yes it is probable not doable having it on Russian side, But I get shot down by friendly in my PE 2, After countless attacks caused the PE 2 sturdiness and my gunners not shooting back he says sorry it is only a game when he see he get punished for shooting down a friendly. So that fact is not a JU 52 problem. I do not ask for paratrooper missions on russian side, mostly because I struggle with the sight of German paratroopers coming out, I have absolutely no problem flying supply missions with it. But I realise the oposission and feelings connecting to it is maybe a price too high. I already pissed off a couple of your squad mates with my opinion, and are really more interested getting friendly again with your squad than having the JU 52.

 

You haven't pissed off me or the squad off. It's just a very silly situation flying the 52 on VVS. I was shot down 4 times by allies. I said in chat I was Stalin airways but it didn't matter I was shot as I was taking off from a VVS airfield by a friendly. At one point we were escorted by 109's until we told them we were VVS and then promptly got shot down. It's bonkers     

 

Edit:

We where told to fire flares but we were already being shot at and or killed. If enemy or friendlies for that matter approach from the 6 its difficult to see them. Once bailed out we were shot in the chutes too.  

 

You are going to end up with a situation where the 52's are going to just be ignored and left alone to go about their business.  

Edited December 29, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Custard

[IRRE_Storfyr]

Takeoff with a russian Ju-52 with mate for paradrop mission. After climbing to 150m (1min of flight) a russian Lagg-3 came by killing us both despite chat warning.

Well done whining folks because getting teamkilled is great fun!

 

Really, this is a bad joke.

 

Sorry mate I think it was me :unsure:

 

I shot down a 109 above our airfield (south) and saw two Ju-52 with this skin (I'm 100% sure, is it a bug ?) :

 

 

 

It was my first game since they added the Ju-52 paras droping thing, and I wasn't sure if you where friends or foes, so I asked my friends in Teamspeak if the ju52 with the red tail where with us or not. They told me that VVS Ju52 where the orange ones with CCCP written on it and that you couldn't be allies. Just after that I saw Two 109's roaming around I figured they where your escort so I quickly engaged as I was alone (wich is totally foolish and they probably had a good laugh watching me doing their own job......).

 

I couldn't check the in-game chat because I was trying to keep eyes on four different aircrafts 

 

Again mate I'm really sorry, on behalf of me and my squadron I sincerly apologize and I assure you I do not aprove this kind of behaviour at all, the skin you choosed was the very thing that confused me

[7.GShAP/Silas]

A comrade and I racked up 3 friendly Ju-52 kills while flying IL-2s in a single session.  The first time, I happened upon him in the region of a drop zone, flying deeper into Soviet territory. I saw iron crosses and green camo, so I put a burst into a wing, and as I flew past I heard his gunner firing at me, so I shot him down.

 

The second time we found 2x Ju-52 flying from the direction of enemy territory towards the enemy drop zone target.  They had German markings.  I asked twice if we had 2x Ju-52 flying together, and got no reply.  They started to drop paratroopers over the enemy target zone, so I shot them down.

 

And yeah I shot you guys and your paratroopers in your chutes, because I don't want the other team to capture the point and we already have to work against a 2-1 disadvantage.

 

Anyway, I will never shoot down a Ju-52 again until something changes.  Even with the most serious provocation I was wrong.  It just isn't worth it.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

A comrade and I racked up 3 friendly Ju-52 kills while flying IL-2s in a single session.  The first time, I happened upon him in the region of a drop zone, flying deeper into Soviet territory. I saw iron crosses and green camo, so I put a burst into a wing, and as I flew past I heard his gunner firing at me, so I shot him down.

 

The second time we found 2x Ju-52 flying from the direction of enemy territory towards the enemy drop zone target.  They had German markings.  I asked twice if we had 2x Ju-52 flying together, and got no reply.  They started to drop paratroopers over the enemy target zone, so I shot them down.

 

And yeah I shot you guys and your paratroopers in your chutes, because I don't want the other team to capture the point and we already have to work against a 2-1 disadvantage.

 

Anyway, I will never shoot down a Ju-52 again until something changes.  Even with the most serious provocation I was wrong.  It just isn't worth it.

Unfortunately the Chat message was immediately gone, I didn't know where we were just went on my Heading and Clock and only took the gunner once we were already under attack.

[Lusekofte]

Yes I agree, it is a silly thing , we should not have the JU 52 on russian side. It only bring more frustration. I can fly the JU 52 in other places

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Again mate I'm really sorry, on behalf of me and my squadron I sincerly apologize and I assure you I do not aprove this kind of behaviour at all, the skin you choosed was the very thing that confused me

It was on a winter map and I had a winter skin so I'm sure it wasn't you (still thank you for the apolgy). Either way, this just change only adds confusion and ruins gameplay not only for Ju-52s flying on russian side but also german.

[IRRE_Storfyr]

It was on a winter map and I had a winter skin so I'm sure it wasn't you (still thank you for the apolgy). Either way, this just change only adds confusion and ruins gameplay not only for Ju-52s flying on russian side but also german.

 

Unfortunately I checked the logs and it was really me, and I swear you both had the "red tail" skin on my screen. 7-GvShAP/Silas seems to have seen a russian ju52 with iron crosses too.

 

Must be some kind of bug...    Sadly I don't have the track to show you the proof

[IRRE_Temeraire]

dommage que des "pilotes" bleu (sturmovnik pl) restent au dessus des bases comme des assoiffés enfin plutôt comme un beau blaireau de base

Edited December 30, 2016 by NNFFLTemeraire

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

I think that my teammate 307_Nebuluz was victim of nasty bug today, he got enough credits to take Bf 110 E-2, he tries 3 times and after one minute after spawn he was kicked (i saw message) and got killed 3 times. After second time he even fly supply mission in He111 but again he was kicked and kiled after taking Bf 110 third time. In last sortie he took 109 and flew without kick and death.

 

Those happend in sorties on Mission #610 at: 29.12.2016  21:39 to 22:19

 

http://72ag-ded.ru/en/sorties/994/307_Nebuluz/?tour=5

[kileab]

dommage que des "pilotes" bleu (sturmovnik pl) restent au dessus des bases comme des assoiffés enfin plutôt comme un beau blaireau de base

 

Translation for non French PPL :

 

It is a pity that blue "pilots" (Sturmovnik_PL) remain above the bases as thirsty, rather like a big basic f**** badger*

 

*Badger is sort of a dooch in french

[Lusekofte]

yeah, I was in for a short while some days ago, he was rather rude in the chat , I did not follow it so I cannot be sure if he was the only one

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/user/87527-sturmovnik_pl/

 

Apparently he camped over a airfield of ours. Partly our fighters fault, it is their job to make such behaviour non profitable .

But I found his conduct very unpleasant 

[F/JG300_Gruber]

I saw that the Soviet industrial area was destroyed last mission (congrats to the bombers btw !)

How long does the planeset penalty last in this case ?

[IRRE_Centx]

I saw that the Soviet industrial area was destroyed last mission (congrats to the bombers btw !)

How long does the planeset penalty last in this case ?

 

Just for the current map

 

And nothing to be proud of... with 2tons bombs, 3-4 He 111 are enough...

Edited December 30, 2016 by -IRRE-Centx

[=gRiJ=Alado]

sever down?

[IRRE-Quintus11]

dommage que des "pilotes" bleu (sturmovnik pl) restent au dessus des bases comme des assoiffés enfin plutôt comme un beau blaireau de base

 Un gars des 1 st   plus haut dans la discution m 'a dit de décoller d 'un autre airfield .....no comment ...

Cependant , je plussoie .

Edited December 30, 2016 by -IRRE-Quintus11

[yurito]

Server is down!! Whats happened?

[Angus]

Noooooooooo 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Are Aeroflot urgently retiring the Ju-52 from their lines to Europe?

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Just for the current map

 

And nothing to be proud of... with 2tons bombs, 3-4 He 111 are enough...

 

Oh....

 

I never saw what the industrial area looks like tbh.

I expected something huge like on Moscow warbirds server. 

 

Anyway, merci pour l'info m'sieur.

 

 

 

I hope the server will be back online soon.

[IRRE_Centx]

I never saw what the industrial area looks like tbh.

I expected something huge like on Moscow warbirds server. 

 

It's basically a lot of small buildings (all really close to each others) with some bigger buildings, a train station with 2 trains stopped and approximately 100-120 trucks/halftracks/cars (only destroyable by bombs/rockets, not by mg/canons)

 

So basically 3-4 He-111s who know where to drop their blue bombs are enough, with their blast they destroy the whole train station + the two trains + a lot of buildings + approx 100 soft targets = industrial area destroyed.

 

 

Meanwhile Soviets have to send dozens of Pe-2s to obtain the same result... which explains why Soviets let the German HQ untouched :/

[Sturmovnik_PL]

i suggest to increase the AAA to avoid campers like our well known  friend Sturmovnick_PL ( is that the way he wins his games) to stay alone at 5 k  above an airfield . 

Camping airfield ,shooting engines off planes  + insulting+ xenophobia  in chat ... this kinda behaviour we all like !

 

This kinda behaviour ruins the random expert server and also the work provided by people working for us to have fun . 

Me 109 is energy fighter, u think i will dogfighting with yak ? yesterday your friends do same thing what I does. So, what is your problem Quintus ?

[IRRE-Quintus11]

Me 109 is energy fighter, u think i will dogfighting with yak ? yesterday your friends do same thing what I does. So, what is your problem Quintus ?

The fact is Camping over Airfield ...like you do everytime  ruins game .  ( you are not the only one huh..)

Is that the way you win your games ?

Think about the guys working hard  for US to have fun, that's not respectfull acting like that . 

+ insulting ppl on chat ,  beeing xenophibic do not have place on a game . 

 

Did you ever see me or one of mates camping over airfields for 45 mins ? 

Edited December 30, 2016 by -IRRE-Quintus11

[Sturmovnik_PL]

I campin only 10 mins mate, in rules camping is legal.

[Sturmovnik_PL]

If u see airfiled is attacking just take another. Remeber u first give me reason to my rude behaviour wrote on the chat something like that, "u are not honor, u are badass, or u are stupid camper".

Edited December 30, 2016 by Sturmovnik_PL

[IRRE_Temeraire]

If u see airfiled is attacking just take another. Remeber u first give me reason to my rude behaviour wrote on the chat something like that, "u are not honor, u are badass, or u are stupid camper".

Having shot down me you redo a pass to kill my pilot.

 

You are a pilot without honor.

[Sturmovnik_PL]

Reds likes shootin out my ass when i passin down on the parachutre, so i doin same what russians doin. 

Edited December 30, 2016 by Sturmovnik_PL

[Mad_Mikhael]

Reds likes shootin out my ass when i passin down on the parachutre, so i doin same what russians doin. 

Please check your targets twice   Got team killed by you few minutes ago 

[PasteszOdbytu]

Pilot without honor. Hahaha. Camping over the airport. OMG. Establish a nofly zone over the airports, or you can to camp but only 10 minutes later you have to leave or you will lose HONOR.

[Sturmovnik_PL]

Please check your targets twice   Got team killed by you few minutes ago 

Sorry, u was in the macchi, this plane of back is very similar to yak and lagg cause have a cooler under body. I'm very soory of this accident. 

Edited December 30, 2016 by Sturmovnik_PL

[6./ZG26_McKvack]

Just need to share because something needs to change. Me and a squadmate were flying german Ju-52s towards the drop zone when we spotted another Ju-52 with the Spain skin and he was coming up from behind and towards our formation acting as a friendly and once he was in tight formation he opened up on us and shot one of us down. 

 

Russian side cant have a Ju-52 until we have skin locking mechanic ingame. This is broken and not even fun to fly on this server anymore with this going on.

Edited December 30, 2016 by 6./ZG26_McKvack

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

We said it in Chat a couple of times, that we were going to be Sneaky and take the Orange Camoflage to trick the Russians. And we got TKed. 

[CSW_606_JuLB]

In situation when were 9 VVS vs 42 LW is this behavior very usefull... as you saw.

[W_Schulz]

Hey guys whay do you crying when you see  planes above airfield ( register to IRRE) Thise ise part of game. Im dont see the problem from rus and german side 

[Proxy]

He can not stand that some kid kicked his ass. Kid without honor.       

[Willy__]

 

 

Just need to share because something needs to change. Me and a squadmate were flying german Ju-52s towards the drop zone when we spotted another Ju-52 with the Spain skin and he was coming up from behind and towards our formation acting as a friendly and once he was in tight formation he opened up on us and shot one of us down.    Russian side cant have a Ju-52 until we have skin locking mechanic ingame. This is broken and not even fun to fly on this server anymore with this going on.

 

I recommend firing on every ju52 you see. You can worry if its enemy or not after its down. 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

I recommend firing on every ju52 you see. You can worry if its enemy or not after its down. 

Seems to be the best Advice right now. 

[Lusekofte]

 

 

the Spain skin and he was coming up from behind and towards our formation acting as a friendly and once he was in tight formation he opened up on us and shot one of us down. 

 

Yes I was afraid that would happen, Naive I am believing that might not happened in this community. But that is the achilles heal in this sim, us flying it. I agree, such conduct shows we are not ready for shared planes 

[IRRE_Alleluia]

i've seen the log from the mission it was it's ai gunner that fires.

 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

I consciously don't take a gunner, makes identifcation a bit harder.