707shap_Srbin Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Well, I am painting now: M8+TC of Maj. Erich Groth, Gr.Kdr. II./ZG76 M8+HM of Oblt. Wilhelm Herget, StaKa 4./ZG76 M8+BN of Oblt. Walter Borchers, StaKa 5./ZG76 M8+NP of Hptm. Nacke, StaKa 6./ZG76 M8+IP of Oblt. H-J Jabs, 6./ZG76
Luger1969 Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Thanks Panzarbar, that is a full house. The skull 110 really good.
viperrm64 Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Thanks for your kind comments everybody, as other skinners are concentrating on other 110 units I'd like to stick with ZG26 aircraft(early or later but not 110g's) but I am running out of resources her in the U.K. so if anybody has any full colour profiles either side view or three view of ZG26 110's please PM me and i'll give you my e-mail address so you can send them to me or if you want put them up on this forum(skinning resources) as I 'd like to do many more but have no more profiles to use as references now. I thank you all again for your kind support. Rob Mason.
Zargos Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Hello, I don't work as fast as you guys, but I'm also making skins for the BF110. My first skin will be a plane of the ZG26 : I've just started the paint scheme as you can see ... there is still a lot of works to do to get a decent weathering. Stay tuned ! @Viper : check Wing Pallette site (http://wp.scn.ru/en), there are plenty of profiles (the one above came from there) 4
viperrm64 Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Thanks Zargos i"ve already been using WingsPallette as well as Asibiz.com and even Pinterest i guess it is possible i have exhausted all the best web sites already, nice skin by the way i like the all green camo 110"s, great job.
Cybermat47 Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) I did some digging, and the BoM and CloD Bf-110 templates look quite similar. Hopefully this template by checkmysix will help people make Wespe skins http://www.mediafire.com/download/yddnerhxndr4a20/Bf_110_Template_by_checkmysix.rar Edited November 30, 2015 by Cybermat47
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 30, 2015 1CGS Posted November 30, 2015 Hey Ventus do you have any more reference photo's or link to the top aircraft. I'd like to give it a crack. Cheers, Boomer. It's a Bf 110 G-2 of Stab/NaGr 1, summer 1943.
4SCT_Vespa Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Hi Zargos...can't wait to see your final result...keep up the great work
Zargos Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Hello, Paint scheme is almost finished, just some details to fix and I'll start the weathering : Have a nice day. 2
4SCT_Vespa Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Thx for update Zargos...I love your artwork...and weathering too...it's really important for realism...
Zargos Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Thank you all for your friendly comments. They are the best support I can dream of. Edited November 30, 2015 by UF_Zargos
Reflected Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Hi Zargos! I would fade the greens a little, it would blend in the game much better. Maybe even lighten them a tad. Great work otherwise! 2
Zargos Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Hi Zargos! I would fade the greens a little, it would blend in the game much better. Maybe even lighten them a tad. Great work otherwise! You're right. The point is that the colors in the game are different from those in Photoshop. Some fine tuning to come ...
707shap_Srbin Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Zargos: Bf110C-2 W.Nr.3044 3U+AN (ex-3U+AP) of Oblt. Theo Rossiwall, spring 1940. Rossiwall was StaKa 6./ZG26, but 19.05.40 he was trasferred to 5./ZG26, "Pik As Staffel" as StaKa. He took his aircraft with him, just overpainted "P" to "N". "A" letter was not red but black with white outline. Photos: Edited November 30, 2015 by 1./ZG1_Panzerbar
BP_Iceman Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Hello gentlemen. Today two skins on the original version C.I hope Eduar again mistaken. The second inspiration is three color camo decal sheet aircraft from the company Aeromaster. Indicated as a machine III. / ZG 26 Uncensored download : http://www.mediafire.com/download/b3blfomr95ny2ab/Bf110E2_III_ZG26.dds http://www.mediafire.com/download/qac7l557cz7c79l/Bf110E2_WEISSENBERGER.dds Enjoy 6
707shap_Srbin Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Sorry to dissapoint You, but: 1. Weissenberger got only first 5 victories with 1.(Z)/JG77, then STaffel was renamed in 10.(Z)/JG5. 2. He flew LN+PR as his regular a/c, before he got Bf110F-2 in may 1942. 3. 2N+IR with Oblt. Kriegel's emblem "Eagle catching lion" was a temporary emblem of 7./ZG76 in winter 1940/41 (Eduard is telling about II./ZG76, wich is incorrect again ). Edited November 30, 2015 by 1./ZG1_Panzerbar
707shap_Srbin Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Can some one please for the love of God make make his skins with a HK version of them? I'll explain: [ Offtopic ] My gran-grandfather: Kpt. Konstantinov Andrey Filippovich, 1910 - .III.45, MiA, Balaton area / Hungary. His elder brother with two sons: Priv. Konstantinov Aleksandr Filippovich, 1906 - 25.VII.43, KiA, Leningrad front. Priv. Konstantinov Grigoriy Aleksandrovich, 1922 - XI.41, MiA, Tula Area / Battle of Moskow Priv. Konstantinov Petr Aleksandrovich, 1923 - 05.IX.42, DoW, Mga / Leningrad front And husband of his sister: Priv. Rogachov Andrey Petrovich, 1902 - 29.VIII.42, DoW (head injury) / Stalingrad front Elder brother of my another gran-grandfather: Priv. Gorshkov Petr Nikitovich, 1921 - VI.41, MiA, Ivano-Frankovsk (Western UkrainianSSR). One more gran-grandfather: Priv. Bubnov Fedor Kalinovich, 1909 - 1996, severely wounded on 20.X.42 in Stalingrad. He was the only survival veteran of my family. I like Bf110, but I just cant paint this swastika. Edited November 30, 2015 by 1./ZG1_Panzerbar 2
BP_Iceman Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Sorry to dissapoint You, but: 1. Weissenberger got only first 5 victories with 1.(Z)/JG77, then STaffel was renamed in 10.(Z)/JG5. 2. He flew LN+PR as his regular a/c, before he got Bf110F-2 in may 1942. 3. 2N+IR with Oblt. Kriegel's emblem "Eagle catching lion" was a temporary emblem of 7./ZG76 in winter 1940/41 (Eduard is telling about II./ZG76, wich is incorrect again ). I give it up. Your knowledge LW are amazing. I searched a bit, because I suspected treachery. But I found only one reference and he probably found Edward. It is equally wrong.\n Eduard produces high-quality models, perhaps it would be able to devote more effort in finding work when it's their livelihood. I can only hope that exchanged "only" a pilot unit that has a camouflage least some basis in reality. Well, next time you might prefer to ask before he do something stupid.
707shap_Srbin Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Iceman: Weissenberger also flew some other aircrafts occasionaly, and eeven was shot down by Pe-3's flying Lt.Koch's LN+BR When he got Bf110F-2, his code was LN+MR. P.S. I a focused on Bf110 history research from early 2005.
Cybermat47 Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 I like Bf110, but I just cant paint this swastika. Understood, and I salute the bravery of the soldiers in your family.
Zargos Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 @ Thank you for the pictures, they are really interesting. You're right about profiles, a lot of them are not exact. Nevertheless they give an idea of what the plane was. In this way they help the skinner to choose what plane to skin. After, pictures help to make something as close as the reality as possible. At the end skinning is for me the art to find the right balance between historical reality and ingame aesthetic. Right now I've fixed all the bugs at pannel junctions but I cannot find a satisfying color tunning. There is something wrong I must find out. I hope to show you something soon. In the meantime, I'll enjoy to watch your skins for this bird. Cheers.
A-E-Hartmann Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) allwespen.jpg hi Panzerbar Is it possible to share different "Waps" psd file. Edited December 1, 2015 by A-E-Hartmann 2
BP_Iceman Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) So today, another attempt to find out whether Edward made a mistake again.Unit and camouflage and markings with the photo seems to agree. The name of the pilot not. Try this time to believe the picture from the website PS:Poor color terminal arches wings has been repaired!! Uncensored download:http://www.mediafire.com/download/yfhiyb31fnfj76o/Bf110E2_6_ZG2 Edited December 1, 2015 by BP_Iceman 4
707shap_Srbin Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 Ok guys, lets start from North and move to South. So, TOP ZERSTORER EXPERTEN skin pack begins: Stab./ZG76 and "Dackelstaffel". M8+YE and LN+PR. Next will be M8+ZE and LN+LR. And then we will move to II./ZG76 with M8+EN, M8+KC, M8+IP and M8+MP. Download. Download. 3
Luger1969 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Morning all. Panzarbar since 2005 is huge dedication and passion. It is really to be admired and the efforts and passion shows. We certainly look forward to travelling the road south with you . Enjoy the skinning and we as the benefactors of this (and also the work all skinners) will enjoy looking at and flying these aircraft. As with everything worthwhile many hours of hard work etc goes into any product but at the ed of the day there will a feeling of great achievement. Kind regards. (Note: Panzar do you perhaps have a copy of Jochen Prien's Jagdfliegerverbande Vol. 9 #2) Edited December 2, 2015 by Chandalier1969
Reflected Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 5./ZG 1. S9+EN Pilot: Oberfeldwebel Willi Dibowski, radio operator: Unteroffizier Kurt Meier. Konstantinovka, Soviet Union, July 13, 1942 The Wespe is the work of our one and only Panzerbar, who was kind enough to help me out. I spent 2 days aligning the bee on the nose, but was nowhere near the perfection he achieved. He will hopefully also correct me if this plane should be RLM 74/75/75 instead of 02/71/65 DOWNLOAD: https://www.mediafire.com/?kihwkcejqk2l4cd 5./ZG 1. G9+IN Soviet Union, October 1942 (Again, the credit for the bee goes to Panzerbar) DOWNLOAD: https://www.mediafire.com/?687wjqb6c180z4c Bf 110F Stab I.NAG1 (Q1+VB) Soviet Union, 1943 (Here too, the credit for the death hand goes to Panzerbar) DOWNLOAD: https://www.mediafire.com/?4t5fhc3nt24kcpr 9
sport02 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) nice skins thank for all skinneurs !! Edited December 2, 2015 by sport02
4SCT_Vespa Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Reflected and Panzerbar...thanks for those piece of art!!!!
707shap_Srbin Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Download: https://yadi.sk/d/oqu2HCAnkvVUi
707shap_Srbin Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Reflected: 1. S9+EN. Almost all correct, but IMHO colors are weird a bit. Aircraft was probably delivered from another ZG unit (ZG was disbanded around late july 1942) and was overpainted - note fuselage sides overpainted in plane color - what CP artist -C. Sundin- missed). 13.07.1942 5./ZG 1 Bf 110E-1 W.Nr.4054 Bei Lisitschansk / Rußland Jägerbeschuß. Bruch 50 %. Pilot: DIBOWSKI, Wilhelm. (DOB: 21.03.14 in Allenstein/EPr.). (DKG). 07.12.42 Ofw., awarded the Ehrenpokal. 19.05.43 Ofw. in 6./ZG 1, awarded the DKG. 1944 Lt., in 6./ZG 1, then trf to III./ZG 76. 1945 Lt. in Stab IV./JG 53. One more S9+EN - note different camouflage: It was lost on: 02.11.1942 5./ZG 1 Bf 110D-3 W.Nr.4305 S9+EN 5 km östlich Fl.Pl. Krasnodar / Rußland Absturz nach Start und Aufschlagbrand. Bruch 100 %. Fw Grünther, Herbert Flugzeugführer + Uffz Grünacher, Herbert Bordfunker + Obgfr Bedorf, Ernst Bordmechaniker + 2. S9+IN. Note - ZG1 never used G9+ VbKz. It is mistake with roots from 1980's. II./ZG1 used following VbKz's: II./ZG1 - jan.'40 - july'40 - 2N+ as III./ZG76 - jul'40 - apr.'41 - 2N+ as II./SKG210 - apr.'41 - jan.'42 - S9+ as II./ZG1 - jan.'42 - nov'43 - S9+ as II./ZG1 - nov.'43 - july'44 - 2N+ S9+IN with remnants of winter camouflage (probably march 1942): And one more (summer 1942): 3. Look at "WW2 Photoalbum 16 German Fighters over Russia", pages 86-90. In short: it is ex-Stabstaffel./St.G.77 aircraft with full set of StG77 eblems, wich was sent to NAGr.1 and new owner just was too lazy to overpaint emblems. You painted only death hand, but missed StG77 "Schwartzkopf" emblem Also look here: http://falkeeins.blogspot.ru/2015/06/stabsstaffel-stg-77-deaths-hand-emblem.html Edited December 2, 2015 by 1./ZG1_Panzerbar 1
Reflected Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Thanks for the info, I will update the skins! It's incredible how much you know about the 110
707shap_Srbin Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Welcome to our forum, You will find there more
Trooper117 Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Reflected... Those skins are incredible Many thanks!
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