Blitzen Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I'd like to see the entire eastern front eventually fleshed out before moving elsewhere. That would be fastest, with most of the assets already in place. Barbarossa to the Elbe would be pretty nice, and a dynamic-esque campaign like the ones of old would be perfect. Besides that, the Afrika theatre would be interesting to see as well. + the P-39?
GP* Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 ......and where the hell is Finkeren with that rhubarb pie? (Running joke from EA. You had to be there. Oh, nevermind..........................) Reports indicate that he suffered a complete breakdown at the mere suggestion that this sim not be fleshed out via 20 separate installments, all focusing solely on the East. While he is expected to recover basic functions, sadly he will never post again...
Feathered_IV Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) I suspect Finkeren decided to finally buck the trend where major updates occurred every time he was away on holiday. Now he's taking them at the same time the developers do. He's probably on a beach in Corsica, rubbing tanning lotion on Han's belly right now. Edited January 14, 2016 by Feathered_IV
SYN_Vander Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 "Flying Tigers"/Burma would be awesome, provided they seriously invest in a story-telling campaign. Preferably one with a co-op option. I love having a new map & planes, but without a fitting "story" you'll just be doing the exact same thing, but with different planes. WIth "Flying Tigers" you already have a great starting point: small unit/underdog defends against overwhelming odds.
4thFG_Cap_D_Gentile Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 "Flying Tigers"/Burma would be awesome, provided they seriously invest in a story-telling campaign. Preferably one with a co-op option. I love having a new map & planes, but without a fitting "story" you'll just be doing the exact same thing, but with different planes. WIth "Flying Tigers" you already have a great starting point: small unit/underdog defends against overwhelming odds. +1 and maybe even start before the tigers with i-16's, i-15's, Hawks, Nates and Claudes etc.
Trooper117 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 I'd go for a Flying Tigers theme... but we would only get a proper story driven campaign if it was third party, or the dev's had a major reshuffle I suspect. I played the original 'White Sun Blue Sky' on the old IL2 with something like 70 odd missions... Brilliant and awesome stuff. We won't get anything like that with the current policy for users who enjoy playing SP. 1
No601_Swallow Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Or... make your own missions... or fly some pf the superb SP missions and campaigns being made by users. That's so '46 I can feel a session with my trusty I'd Lerche coming on...
No601_Swallow Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Sorry! Double-post! Edited January 14, 2016 by No601_Swallow
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Or... make your own missions... or fly some pf the superb SP missions and campaigns being made by users. That's so '46 I can feel a session with my trusty I'd Lerche coming on... This is a really relevant point. White Sun, Blue Sky was a user-made campaign, and there is nothing preventing you or anyone else from making a campaign (and it has been done already) for BoS/M. To be honest the thing that completely revolutionised my SP experience in 1946 was buying a notebook for less than $3 and keeping my own mission logs. Squadron, date, mission, target, who's flying with me, who didn't come back, how many did I kill/damage (with in-game messages turned off so I can file claims myself - generally leads to underclaiming), how did it happen with a little drawing (and if I get shot down a little drawing of it too for future reference), plus notes for anything extraordinary that went on. That way not only you can create a little environment around each campaign, you also put yourself more into it. 1
SYN_Vander Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Yes, you can create a campaign by yourself -and I have done so for RoF and the old IL2- but I would like to see the quality take it up a notch with better story writing, animations / cut scenes. The devs have already created a nice campaign framework where you can choose between a story-based mission or a generated/generic mission, selectable from the map.
jeanba Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 BoV : Battle Of Verdun or BoS : Battle of the Somme
SYN_Vander Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 BoV : Battle Of Verdun or BoS : Battle of the Somme I'm still sitting on an unfinished "Kaiserschlacht" campaign for RoF, in co-operation with SYN_Haashashin 1
Y-29.Silky Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 I think we should just stop these threads and make a poll.
PatrickAWlson Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Make sure that you include BoV for those that want some serious Farman action. Sorry jeanba, but it looks like BoS is already taken.
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 I think we should just stop these threads and make a poll. Option suggestions to keep it simple: Theatre vote: Eastern Europe Western Europe Mediterranean Far East/East Asia Pacific Theatre Year: 1938 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 That way you can be a little uniform about it Or if you want I can fire it up, hopefully that will put an end to these threads. 1
[CPT]milopugdog Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Option suggestions to keep it simple: Theatre vote: Eastern Europe Western Europe Mediterranean Far East/East Asia Pacific Theatre Year: 1938 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 That way you can be a little uniform about it Or if you want I can fire it up, hopefully that will put an end to these threads. Wasn't there already one??? http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/1316-poll-next-theatre-war/
bivalov Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) guys, seriously, do you really want DESERT map? and new model of P-40 + Hurricane Mk 2, for example? Edited January 16, 2016 by bivalov
Livai Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 A Channel Map? Maps that RoF had remastered with BoS & BoM Quality?
Quax Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I would be happy, if 1C continues to finance a continuation of the series at all.
jeanba Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Sorry jeanba, but it looks like BoS is already taken. Yes, I told Jason that there was no snow during the battle of the Somme and that the planes missed some wings 1
TheElf Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 +1 and maybe even start before the tigers with i-16's, i-15's, Hawks, Nates and Claudes etc. Add to that mix the Buffalo I, Hurricane IIB, SB-2, TB-3 (flown as transports!), P-66 Vanguard, P-43 Lancer, Ki-21, Ki-30 Ann, Ki-32 Mary, Ki-51 Sonia, Ki-15 Babs, Ki-48 Lily, or Ki-36 and you have quite a stable to create a planeset...Not to mention adding to the Eastern Front. With the planes we already have you could do a pretty good Nomonhan Incident/ Battle of Khalkhyn Gol... Recommended Reading: BLOODY SHAMBLES VOL II., Shores, Cull, Izawa 1993
Livai Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) I want the IL-2 Anniversary Edition to enjoy the old great times from IL-2 again with a remastered Edition Edited January 15, 2016 by Superghostboy
Blitzen Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I want the IL-2 Anniversary Edition to enjoy the old great times from IL-2 again with a remastered Edition The C.U.P. Modded version over at S.A.S. is just about that... http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?board=241.0
MarcoRossolini Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I'm still sitting on an unfinished "Kaiserschlacht" campaign for RoF, in co-operation with SYN_Haashashin Please, please, please Vander, please finish it.
bivalov Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) guys, seriously, do you really want DESERT map? and new model of P-40 + Hurricane Mk 2, for example? i mean this - http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/248-poll-expansion-modules/?mode=show and this - http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/1316-poll-next-theatre-war/page-7?mode=show etc etc etc. Edited January 16, 2016 by bivalov
Feathered_IV Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 It seems fashionable to just shout DESERT! without a thought to which area and which year of the war.
TheElf Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 It seems fashionable to just shout DESERT! without a thought to which area and which year of the war. I'd say 1941, or even earlier. Would hit a couple British Lend lease Aircraft that would be dual purpose with BoS/BoM, and some Italian birds too, that would fit into a smaller niche in the East too.
II./JG77_Manu* Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 I'd highly prefer a Sicily/Italy campaign, over a 200sqm desert F4 against Hurri Mk2/P40 turkey shoot...
bivalov Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) say 1941, or even earlier. Would hit a couple British Lend lease Aircraft that would be dual purpose with BoS/BoM, and some Italian birds too, that would fit into a smaller niche in the East too. personally i just not sure that many players really want Gladiator, CR.42, Hurricane Mk 1 and similar early planes.... it is history, and just could be fun, but there is several "but"........ plus according to my last researches, planeset of El Alamein battle (i.e. i mean exactly mid of 1942 and later) just terrifies me.... i.e. i mean that at least 75% of local types (different Hurricanes Mk 2, and even some Tomahawks Mk 2B, Kittyhawk Mk 3 (i.e. exactly P-40K-1), Spitfire Vb and Boston 3 + Macchi C.200, Bf 109 F-4/G-2 trop and Bf 109 G-2 trop with 1.42 ata, and ??? (well, D.520 or even french Hawk 75?) will be really good for many EF battles 1941-1943, including BoS, Murmansk etc. (P-40K-1 with F4R (also with ABS) and dorsal fin, Spitfire V and Gustav with 1.42 ata will be interesting as definately better versions/planes) but only that hot (acid yellow?) desert , Quatarra etc. as 75-90% of map... Edited January 16, 2016 by bivalov
II./JG77_Manu* Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 this is a chart of Russian lend-lease aircraft, however apart from the Kingcobra and the Mark9, those are all pretty much the fighters the allies had in Africa. Ask yourself, if you really want to fly those machines against the F4....
GP* Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) this is a chart of Russian lend-lease aircraft, however apart from the Kingcobra and the Mark9, those are all pretty much the fighters the allies had in Africa. Ask yourself, if you really want to fly those machines against the F4.... Exactly. People keep clamoring for early war stuff and lesser-known theaters, but all that's going to translate to online is more German superiority in the fighter versus fighter realm. And I know some of you don't care about that, but you are the minority. Mid war to the "beginning of the end" is best (1943, 1944) -- competitive designs on the Allied side, with both sides starting to push the limits of piston-driven performance. Edited January 16, 2016 by Go_Pre
bivalov Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) in case of MTO 1942-1943 addon (i.e. spring 1943 in Tunisia) it could be much more balanced, if even not more. i.e. i mean something like P-40F or P-40K, Spitfire IX (or even VIII?), and Mustang with Allison (i think that it could be exactly A-36A with 5 min WEP = 1500 b.hp. at sl).Bf 109 G-2/6 trop, Fw 190 A-4/5 and (something italian?).but, again, personally i not sure in terrain and other important details. Edited January 16, 2016 by bivalov
II./JG77_Manu* Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) I'd go for Malta/Sicily map,including all Malta operations and Operation Husky. Awesome map with all sorts of terrain, sea, beaches, jungle and a huge vulcano. In addition awesome (balanced) planes like G2/G6, A5, Mc205, Spit8/9, P40L (K was only there in very low numbers), P39,P38(!), Mustang Mk1..perfectly balanced, awesome map. Way better then desert IMO. Map wouldn't have to be bigger then Moscow or Stalingrad as well Edited January 16, 2016 by II./JG77_Manu*
TheElf Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 Exactly. People keep clamoring for early war stuff and lesser-known theaters, but all that's going to translate to online is more German superiority in the fighter versus fighter realm. And I know some of you don't care about that, but you are the minority. Mid war to the "beginning of the end" is best (1943, 1944) -- competitive designs on the Allied side, with both sides starting to push the limits of piston-driven performance. By this rationale BoS and BoM were poor choices for a sim.
L3Pl4K Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 BoB Battle of Bugs, a common battle for VVS and Luftwaffe against memory leaks.
GP* Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 By this rationale BoS and BoM were poor choices for a sim. You won't see me argue with that. They're fun sims but...eh I'll leave it at that.
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 People keep clamoring for early war stuff and lesser-known theaters, but all that's going to translate to online is more German superiority in the fighter versus fighter realm. And I know some of you don't care about that, but you are the minority. You know, on the 1946 server I play daily the top 10 most played aircraft in this order are: Bf-109F-4 Bf-109G-2 Bf-109F-2 La-5FN I-16 type 24 La-5F Hurricane Mk.IIb Fw-190A-4 Bf-110G-2 Bf-109G-10 The planes with the 5 best k/d ratios are the Fw-190A-4, La-5FN, Hurricane Mk.II, Bf-109F-4 and I-16-24. They're just fun to fly really, people like having fun
4thFG_Cap_D_Gentile Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 Recommended Reading: BLOODY SHAMBLES VOL II., Shores, Cull, Izawa 1993 What's wrong with VOL I and Air war for Burma, the concluding volume of the 2 others ? :-)
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