FIGHTING LEGENDS

[Lusekofte]

Well I took 3 high alt bombing missions with a PE 2 yesterday, returned safely all 3 times . I liked the fact that it was fairly easy navigating to the targets in summer maps. It is so much harder in winter

[=IRSS=3wu]

Großes Kompliment, endlich haben wir ein Gegenstück zum WoL Server.Können wir in naher Zukunft Serverstatistiken erwarten?

 

Horrido!

[Memphis]

Großes Kompliment, endlich haben wir ein Gegenstück zum WoL Server.Können wir in naher Zukunft Serverstatistiken erwarten?

 

Horrido!

 

Wofür braucht man Statistiken? Wir vom JG3 haben uns eine Google Tabelle gemacht. Am Ende des Tages schauen wir die durch und freuen uns.

Öffentliche Statistiken nehmen die Ruhe aus dem Server. Leute disconnecten, weil sie nicht getötet werden wollen und vulchen noch mehr. Nur um die blöden Statistiken zu schönen.

 

Jeder, der welche will, soll sich doch ein Flugbuch schreiben. Auch das schreiben davon macht Spaß und fördert Immersion!

[=IRSS=3wu]

Wofür braucht man Statistiken? Wir vom JG3 haben uns eine Google Tabelle gemacht. Am Ende des Tages schauen wir die durch und freuen uns.

Öffentliche Statistiken nehmen die Ruhe aus dem Server. Leute disconnecten, weil sie nicht getötet werden wollen und vulchen noch mehr. Nur um die blöden Statistiken zu schönen.

 

Jeder, der welche will, soll sich doch ein Flugbuch schreiben. Auch das schreiben davon macht Spaß und fördert Immersion!

Ich kann mir schon vorstellen dass viele Leute ne Statistik wollen.Ich zum Beispiel möchte schon wissen wo ich stehe, ob ich mich verbessere/verschlechtere oder wo meine Stärken bzw. Schwächen sind.Da sind einfach nackte Zahlen das Beste.

Ich hab ja keine Ahnung was die Serverbetreiber vorhaben, ist ja nur ein Vorschlag.Vieleicht sollte man abstimmen.

Ich glaube auch dass viele immer noch WoL fliegen weil es eben da Statistiken gibt, obwohl der FL Server eindeutig besser ist.

Das mit Flugbuch schreiben war wohl eher ein Witz oder??

 

P.S. Es gibt natürlich auch Leute die es bei Gott nicht ertragen können nicht in der Top Ten zu sein...

[Asgar]

Ich kann mir schon vorstellen dass viele Leute ne Statistik wollen.Ich zum Beispiel möchte schon wissen wo ich stehe, ob ich mich verbessere/verschlechtere oder wo meine Stärken bzw. Schwächen sind.(Da helfen Replays wohl mehr als Statistiken. Weiß nicht wie du in einer Statistik deine Schwächen erkennen willst) Da sind einfach nackte Zahlen das Beste.

Dafür das Flugbuch.

Ich hab ja keine Ahnung was die Serverbetreiber vorhaben, ist ja nur ein Vorschlag.Vieleicht sollte man abstimmen.

Ich glaube auch dass viele immer noch WoL fliegen weil es eben da Statistiken gibt, obwohl der FL Server eindeutig besser ist.

Die meisten Leute vom WoL will ich gar nicht auf FL server. Deswegen spiele ich ja auch auf FL und nicht auf WoL

Das mit Flugbuch schreiben war wohl eher ein Witz oder??

Wieso ein Witz? da hast du genau das was du am Anfang wolltest. Du kannst nachvollziehen ob du besser oder schlechter wirst^^

 

P.S. Es gibt natürlich auch Leute die es bei Gott nicht ertragen können nicht in der Top Ten zu sein...

Edited December 6, 2015 by I./JG3_Asgar

[=IRSS=3wu]

Also abstimmen.Ist ne gerechte Sache.

[Asgar]

Volksabstimmungen sind auch ne gerechte Sache und die gibt es in Deutschland trotzdem nicht. Das ist die Entscheidung des JG 27. Schließlich kümmern sich die Jungs um den Server

[=IRSS=3wu]

Schon klar, was sagen die Serverbetreiber zum Thema?

[Vade]

Ich kann verstehen, dass solche Statistiken sehr nett anzusehen sind und einem vor allem als Bodenkämpfer viele interessante Infos geben kann. Trotzdem finde ich, dass sie dem Spielgeschehen und der Community auf kurz oder lang Schaden: In einer Flugsim geht es darum die Richtigen Entscheidungen zu treffen und Situationsbedingt zu agieren. Die Zahlen sind dafür aber nicht aussagekräftig und geben ein völlig falsches Bild wieder. Jemand der sich Hals über Kopf in einen Dogfight stürzt und dort Leute über den Haufen schießt mag mit 2 Abschüssen davon kommen, ist aber keineswegs ein besserer Pilot als der, der lieber Abstand hält und sich  auf so etwas nicht einläßt. Momentan ist das selten der Fall, wenn sich aber Leute in den Kopf setzen, dass die Statistiken das Wichtigste sind (Wie es beispielsweise so in jedem First Person Shooter zu sehen ist) wird der Server rapide an Qualität verlieren und Frust wird sich auch hier breit machen. Ich finde also man sollte vor allem in Hinblick auf das aktuelle Wachstum lieber eine unbeschwerte und offene Community fördern, als eine leistungsorientierte, die aus dem Auge verliert worum es eigentlich geht und sich immer mehr angiftet. (Wie es ja schon vieeel zu oft in BoS der Fall ist). 

[=IRSS=3wu]

OK, habs verstanden.Manche wollen ums verrecken keine Statistiken haben.(kann sich jeder selber sein Teil denken warum)

Bleibt ja jedem selber überlassen ob er die Statistiken anschaut oden nicht.

[Vade]

OK, habs verstanden.Manche wollen ums verrecken keine Statistiken haben.(kann sich jeder selber sein Teil denken warum)

Bleibt ja jedem selber überlassen ob er die Statistiken anschaut oden nicht.

Du hast mich ertappt: ich bin ein furchtbarer Pilot und mit Statistiken würde das schlagartig allen bewusst werden - Das muss ich um jeden Preis verhindern! Mal ehrlich: Spar dir doch bitte solche Eigenhiebe, sie bestätigen nur, was ich meinte...

[9./JG27MAD-MM]

Please keep it in English, should be international Server to read for every one.

Even ít is bad as my English

We debate alot about Stats it's also possible to ban Player with bad behavior from the stats.(This future is much requested here and ingame)

The main Problem ist non of us have currently expirience with HTML scrpits and build Websites, we search for a solution but its currently not around the corner.

When we intruduce Stats one of us have to learn fast website building  

And give to a professinal Hand is not a solution at all, cost allot of money with maintenance and other stuff its our freetime and hobby but we will look in to the Stats and give a future update.

[SR-F_Winger]

Please add statistics soon so the server gets filled a little more.

We really need a populated alternative to the other server.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

I agree with Vade and others on the stats, it doesn't encourage anything nice in this game. I even think the kill messages are pointless and just for 'epeen'.

 

Nice guys flying and fighting together with respect is what it's all about and I think that is what has encouraged people to join this server.

[=IRSS=3wu]

Thanks for you fast answer MAD, now i know whats on your mind.

[Sturmalex]

On topic:

I dont want statistics aswell. It just leads to 'epeen' races about who is 'da best'. Just like in games like Battlefield where people are not playing the objectives but to get the maximum amount of kills. The only game kind of getting along with stats is Red Orchestra 2 because there are no deaths displayed and kills give a hell of a lot less points if not made from a objective and fulfilling objectives gives a lot of points. 

If things like Kills/Deaths would be excluded I could see me supporting it though. With some basic stats like flyouts, ground targets destroyed, flighttime, how many times you flew a certain plane etc. I would agree but please nothing really PvP related.

 

best wishes

Edited December 7, 2015 by Rama
removed part about private message (along with the post quoting the private message)

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Ich persönnlich benötige keine Statistiken, um Spaß auf eine Server zu haben. Das ist natürlich kein Argument gegen Statistiken sondern meine Meinung.
 
Außerdem finde ich es besser, wenn mehr Arbeit in die Missionsgestaltung fließen kann, anstatt in die Programmierung von Intenetseiten und Onlinestatistiken, zumal euch ja auch das know-how fehlt, was nochmal zusätzliche Arbeit aufdringt. Schließlich wollen wir alle Spaß haben, das gilt auch für die Missionsersteller.

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Personally I don't need statistics to enjoy online servers. That's no argument against statistics for sure but just my opinion.

 

Additionally I'd preferr more work being done to mission design instead of programming websites and statistics, even more if you lack the know-how, which increases the workload.

In the end we all want to have fun. That also counts for mission designers.

Edited December 7, 2015 by Stab/JG26_5tuka

[SR-F_Winger]

Statistics are going to increase the playercount. Most people want to be high on the list or just check their performance.

 

Just look at WOL. I have NO CLUE why anyone still plays there except for pure russian pilots.

You get patronized on how you want to loadout your plane. After half the round there is no more reasonable good fighter available at all. NOONE wants that yet still people fly there since its the only server with reliable continuous high playercounts.

 

For me it currently goes like that:

Come online. Check playercounts. If FL has 30+ i play there. Otherwise i go and see if expert DED has reasonable numbers then i fly there. If they dont have players as well I am FORCED to play on WOL and this sucks.

FL is the better server with higher freedom and i dont get why not more people come play there.

 

EDIT: Like mentioned. If you got trouble getting stats to run you can try to contact Raven from Stg2. He managed to get stats running on their server so he shouldbe able to help you on that.

He such a helpful an nice guy. I dont see why he wouldnt help you if his time allows it.

 

Winger

Edited December 7, 2015 by Winger

[Antiguo]

 HI , HOLA

 

thanks for this server, for us it is the best. 

 

Gracias por este servidor , para mi y para muchos compañeros de ala es el mejor 

 

 

 

saludos 

[MarcAnton]

The whole airwar during WW2 was ABOUT statistics, it was THE important thing for EVERY fighter ace in the world ..... so please stop beeing naive.

Back in the good old days we had ADW and VOW and so on, statistics en masse with medals and all the stuff. Its an online-game and its meant to be competitive, jesus christ 

 

Die Deutsche Community scheint nur noch aus alten Männern zu bestehen für die richtig platzierte Nieten und ja keine Rechtschreibfehler bei der Cockpitbeschriftung wichtiger sind als alles andere .... 

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

The most important thing for any WW2 fighter ace was to survive.

[Vade]

Statistics are going to increase the playercount. Most people want to be high on the list or just check their performance.

 

Just look at WOL. I have NO CLUE why anyone still plays there except for pure russian pilots.

You get patronized on how you want to loadout your plane. After half the round there is no more reasonable good fighter available at all. NOONE wants that yet still people fly there since its the only server with reliable continuous high playercounts.

 

For me it currently goes like that:

Come online. Check playercounts. If FL has 30+ i play there. Otherwise i go and see if expert DED has reasonable numbers then i fly there. If they dont have players as well I am FORCED to play on WOL and this sucks.

FL is the better server with higher freedom and i dont get why not more people come play there.

 

EDIT: Like mentioned. If you got trouble getting stats to run you can try to contact Raven from Stg2. He managed to get stats running on their server so he shouldbe able to help you on that.

He such a helpful an nice guy. I dont see why he wouldnt help you if his time allows it.

 

Winger

Might be true, but do you really want players who go after stats only? You have to ask yourself why WoL ist so unliked by some. Thats not only due to the unlocks or missions, its the mindset behind the server that's lacking. Don't worry: with time, players will come - the growth of the server has been very promising so far (Thanks to the great support from the owners, who actually communicate) And anyways, id rather have a 30x player server like this, than a 80x player Slugfest

[III./JG1_Loch]

I am ready almost each day cca 19:00 UTC with my He111 or Ju87. Are there another LW bombers prepared for group flights? Lets make group and dont fly solo...

Its hard to communicate using ingame chat.

[Brano]

There should be 2 kinds of statistics for fighters:

1. For Jagdwaffe to collect individual kills to be the first at audience with Fuhrer to be decorated with Iron Cross Knight version with all accessories

2. For VVS to collect missions flown with bombload,as they were payed double comparing to missions flown without.So guys can exchange rubels for american pilot jackets,boots and canned beef.

 

[9./JG27MAD-MM]

No Hero of the Soviet Union Medal? What shame, by the way fuhrer is dead long time ago, would be hard to recive a first audience for a Iron Cross Medal....

[216th_Xenos]

WOL isn't such a bad setup if it weren't for the stats. When in the server, press O, look at one of your airfields, spot the red plane, and you will see 10-15 blues following it in a nice long line. 

 

People on that server simply hover over their airfield waiting for a red to come in in order to kill it, and get the points. No one goes for the objectives, or defend their own.

[Trooper117]

I was on WoL recently... did two missions in an IL2... I avoided all airfields on route to target, carried out the mission, got damaged by AA fire, then returned to base and limped home, never saw an EA.

There were lots of people on the server.

 

Regardless... If I get shot down, so be it. Whether by vulching, airfield campers, or whatever... it just makes it all the more enjoyable when you complete your mission and survive.

 

Stats don't mean much to me. They never did when I was online all the time with the old IL2 1946... it was all about teamwork, completing an objective and getting back in one piece.

 

I always liked being the underdog with everything stacked against me. War is never balanced or fair... more often than not I was shot down, but when I survived against all the odds, it just made it all worthwhile.

 

That is my humble opinion anyway

[KoN_]

I was on WOL server the other day and hardly any Axis went for the objectives and of course VVS won the match , such a shame on the mind set .

So i decided to jump into ROF for a change in doing so I shot down Albert Ball  in Rise of Flight.

I was so pleased when i read my AAR.

Now if only we had this in BOS.

Edited December 8, 2015 by II./JG77_Con

[9./JG27DavidRed]

btw guys...we now also have an official FIGHTING LEGENDS teamspeak server.

89.163.140.177

pw: FL

 

hopefully this will encourage the already obvious teamwork on our server even more....some awesome missions today. S! to the bomber boys, it was great to see 6 111s in formation destroying the aircraft factory in 1 pass.

Edited December 8, 2015 by 9./JG27DavidRed

[Sturmalex]

btw guys...we now also have an official FIGHTING LEGENDS teamspeak server.

89.163.140.177

pw: FL

 

hopefully this will encourage the already obvious teamwork on our server even more....some awesome missions today. S! to the bomber boys, it was great to see 6 111s in formation destroying the aircraft factory in 1 pass.

 

I just visited it and it was empty (its late anyways) I might just suggest to add the info about the TS into the Missiondescription (if not happened already, I was on the server short but didnt pay attention and now have issues with my gfx so I cant check)

[III./JG1_Loch]

I was honoured to lead this brave bombers under very comfortable fighter cover. Every LW pilot did great job so we could hit our target easily. These are the moments why i like games like this. Well done all around this server.

 

Official TS sounds good, now we have to talk virtual squadrons into leaving their own TS and join this one to coop together

[Dave]

Hi guys. Thank you for providing this server.

What is the rationale for the ping limit?

Being from Australia it is impossible to meet your ping limit much of the time and we have no alternative servers beyond the EU.

Unless the netcode for BoS is very different from almost every other client-server-with-client-prediction multiplayer game since Quake 3, a lagger will not affect play for anyone else on the server beyond potential rubber-banding as the client-side prediction diverges from the server's canonical game state. Such warping would also be an infrequent transient occurrence. In contrast, being kicked is not a transient condition and generally results in a big disruption for a cooperative element who have just spent 15 minutes getting to target.

I ask that you reconsider the current ping limit, which appears to kick at 300ms, as this alienates about half the world for no clear gain.

Thanks.

[KoN_]

Its was nice to see a flight of 190s doing JaBo missions and above a flight of bombers . All heading towards their targets .

[I./JG1_Deschain]

Great server, great missions today i just ran into this early morning one, didnt have time to do much but i was so pleased i recorded a short track of me flying over frontlines, feel free to check it out (nothing going on there its basicly just for scenery )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hXOEYqyHLQ&feature=youtu.be (1440p should be up soon)

 

PS i rly hope this server takes down current king (WoL) and will soon be most populated (unlocks and no GPS is rly big deal in this game, its pity WoL admins dont get it)

Edited December 12, 2015 by II./JG1_Deschain

[9./JG27DavidRed]

Great server, great missions today i just ran into this early morning one, didnt have time to do much but i was so pleased i recorded a short track of me flying over frontlines, feel free to check it out (nothing going on there its basicly just for scenery )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hXOEYqyHLQ&feature=youtu.be (1440p should be up soon)

 

PS i rly hope this server takes down current king (WoL) and will soon be most populated (unlocks and no GPS is rly big deal in this game, its pity WoL admins dont get it)

thx. nice you like the server...

 

we really dont want to take anybody down at all...its not about us vs. any other server...in fact, in my opinion, the worst that can happen to an online flight sim community is, to only have 1 server populated.(like it was in CLOD & to a certain degree here as well). i dont want to see only our server populated in future...but i dont see that happening anyway...our server still suffers empty times, and only late evening UTC we begin to get populated by reasonable numbers. people rant about that other server, but seem to still play most of their time there.

[Asgar]

 

 

people rant about that other server, but seem to still play most of their time there.

 

 

believe me. it's a mystery to me and the rest of JG3 as well 

[I./JG1_Deschain]

people rant about that other server, but seem to still play most of their time there.

 

Try a bigger missions maybe, with objectives wide spread...i cant think of anything else, everybody hates preset planes, most people agrees that GPS got no place in realistic flight sim, yet WoL is still full, I guess people got used to it:/ its shame

 

edit: Also, statistics, thats a huge thing

Edited December 12, 2015 by II./JG1_Deschain

[Vade]

 

 

people rant about that other server, but seem to still play most of their time there.

 

 

 

believe me. it's a mystery to me and the rest of JG3 as well 

 

 

Those who seem to know best all the time are those who could use advice the most. And those who always attack others are usually the once most vulnerable. It has always been that way in flightsims, i would'nt think about it too much ^^

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

I don't think missions are too small. Look at other servers and you'll notice that most people start from frontline airfields to get into action quicker. With only one frontline airfield per side they're also more prone to vulching ect.

 

What I still find pityfull (apart from the drop of players) is again balance. It's usually 2:1 for the german side and I feel forced to fly VVS everytime I join. Also the german side is always populated by veterans and squadrom members flying coordinated attacks while the VVS, being inferiour in numbers and close to not coordinated, appears uncapeable of everything more tha pure guerillia attacks.

 

Don't get me wrong, it's still fun to fly and I enjoy the mission, but flying a bomber with team mates who don't bother covering you or a fighter facing 3 enemies single handely without support is tiring.

Edited December 12, 2015 by Stab/JG26_5tuka

[72AG_Crusader]

USSR won last map, but in debrief was a draw.

Edited December 12, 2015 by 72AG_Crusader