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SCG_Space_Ghost
Posted

They are more than welcome to come back:) in fact, I'd be delighted.

 

Not all the negativity that exploded around the time of release was entirely undesserved, and I certainly don't begrudge people who might have given up on BoS at the time. My guess is that most of them would benefit greatly from revisiting the sim.

 

Or they may find that things really haven't developed the way everybody else feels that it has... 

Y-29.SugaBizkit
Posted (edited)

Awesome teasers!

 

 

To those arguing NO for tanks because it is a waste of resources? I argue the opposite.

 

Sim tanks is a market that I feel is INSANELY untapped. With so many games doing tank LITE, there are bound to be thousands wanting authentic tank feels.

 

 

If IL2 were to do an exploratory tank DLC with 2 playable tanks, I feel it would be worth the time just to grow the il2 playerbase.

 

If more players wind up playing, everyone wins. 

 

Disclaimer: I hate playing in tanks. Still think this would be a good idea. It's not like the other IL2's didn't have this feature

Edited by Y-29.SugaBizkit
Posted

There aren't any "aircraft-only" sims.  They all have targets on the ground.  Now those targets may be controlled by people.

 

Yup. And for those who wish to fly multiplayer with nothing going on the ground, tanks (drivable or otherwise) are optional. No server is going to be forced to include drivable tanks, any more than they are forced to include specific aircraft. The only possible negative I can see is that developing drivable vehicles takes resources - but not the most critical ones, as I see it. Simulating a tank has to be simpler than simulating an aircraft, and if this feature attracts more buyers, the team can maybe hire more people.

Posted

I feel so bad for all those people in the early days who left the SIM. This is amazing works guys. I am so happy. Now I have one of the aircraft types for my squadron. I hope the skin template is ready!

If you build it... They will come.    :rolleyes:

SYN_Vorlander
Posted

+1

Nor do I think that chris roberts is going to pull it off. But we as gamers need more than the last 10 years of gaming. If the Dev's focus in the core of IL2 as a flight sim and keep perfecting the FM and all aspects of the game then we are in for a treat.

 

Currently im even bored with IL2. So we need to move forward.

Posted

Or they may find that things really haven't developed the way everybody else feels that it has...

They might think, that the sim hasn't developed in the direction they would have wanted, but to say there has been no significant development is so obviously false, that I doubt any honest person would say so.

Posted

Super dooper, I can fly, I can drive tanks against my friends. Call air support.

My lower jaw is still unhinge. You are a small team but you doo great things.

Dont stop I am very please.

Posted (edited)

What keeno says here is exactly right:

 

amazing update and so unexpected as this stage.

 

The E-7 looks great, the screen shots look fantastic, personally I'm not a fan of the crew-able tanks but if it brings in more players and expands the franchise then I'm all for it. (as long as it doesn't divert resource from the amazing job you're doing on the aircraft).

 

Cheers again.

Edited by Freycinet
Posted

W O W!!! Speech......less :biggrin: Love It!!!

Posted

I can't stop watching this hatch closing.... tank interiors modeled .... What else ? .... A red Orchestra like shooter in the streets of stalingrad maybe ? ;)

  • 1CGS
Posted

Those apparently hallucinogenic screenshots have got me worried.

 

As Sneaksie already mentioned, they are stills from the campaign intro videos. 

Posted

Personally I don't think SC will be delivered as promised, sorry :(

SC = Scope Creep

Posted

 

sit down,

 

relax,

 

turn up the volume,

 

press play,

 

close your eyes,

 

end dream...

 

FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

FlyingNutcase
Posted

Crikey, I just bought Graviteam's Steel Armor and Steel Fury a couple of weeks ago(!).

 

If done right, this would be awesome indeed. There would need to be some command element to make it more than just a gimmick though. Crossing fingers on that one.

  • Upvote 1
Posted

Crikey, I just bought Graviteam's Steel Armor and Steel Fury a couple of weeks ago(!).

 

If done right, this would be awesome indeed. There would need to be some command element to make it more than just a gimmick though. Crossing fingers on that one.

fantastic game, love graviteam

707shap_Srbin
Posted

So... THATs what will be interesting for airfield defence against vulchers.

 

2cm Flak 30 auf Fahrgestell Zugkraftwagen 1t Sd.Kfz.10/4

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72-K GAZ-MM

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  • Upvote 1
Posted

Nice Job guys....THanks!

71st_AH_Hooves
Posted

Tank looks interesting. However, I do hope that is a completely separate Dev team.. Otherwise, it would compromise the evolution of the air game, which is the game we bought.

wrong

6./ZG26_5tuka
Posted

So... THATs what will be interesting for airfield defence against vulchers.

 

2cm Flak 30 auf Fahrgestell Zugkraftwagen 1t Sd.Kfz.10/4

Seriously? Better ask for those big bad boys already

sdkfz71.jpg

 

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Posted (edited)

Why is my post deleted + the one who replied to it??? :huh:  :huh:  :huh:

 

No explication, no PM, no nada?

 

Do I have a bad breath, wrong deodorant.

 

I only had some questions/doubts about adding tanks to a flight sim  and lack of detail in cities and villages compared to other thank sims to be immersive.

Edited by Uufflakke
  • Upvote 2
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Very Nice update, please show more meet for stukas and il2 , thx

Posted

Excellent , Tanks for The Best Sim .

I Dream in your Sim ...

Thanks

Posted

I thought this was ready? It won't download in the launcher?

Jason_Williams
Posted

Why is my post deleted + the one who replied to it??? :huh:  :huh:  :huh:

 

No explication, no PM, no nada?

 

Do I have a bad breath, wrong deodorant.

 

I only had some questions/doubts about adding tanks to a flight sim  and lack of detail in cities and villages compared to other thank sims to be immersive.

 

It was not appropriate or germane to our specific update. If you want to discuss such topics you can do elsewhere on the forum.

 

Jason 

71st_AH_Hooves
Posted

I*n the Tank vid,   Oh man At 15 seconds, I didn't even notice!  He adjusts his sights to hit the target in the tree line!!   Man that is Detail.

Posted

Crikey, I just bought Graviteam's Steel Armor and Steel Fury a couple of weeks ago(!).

 

If done right, this would be awesome indeed. There would need to be some command element to make it more than just a gimmick though. Crossing fingers on that one.

yeah, Graviteam games are superb!

Posted

Thanks for the update.

Posted

Tanks good. I would take it a little further (and I've mentioned this in the "other" IL2). The role of convoy commander, with ability to control your group--that is, disperse them to cover, deploy mobile AA, call for fighter support--would go a long way to adding ground elements that stay pertinent to air warfare. And, it would make better use of the on-line seats used up by non-pilots. Getting to a destination to resupply a base or combat unit, with the threat and aid of air units, could keep the focus while broadening it. I feel the same way about the J-52: make the non-fighters matter to the fighters. To me, nothing is more off-putting than making air warfare so limited. Yes, it's a skill, but a skill in context. 

Posted

Everybody is talking about tanks but I just realized... It`s under two weeks and we got summer!!! So close now  :biggrin:

 

It`s also interesting to see new campaign chapters and what they offer to us single players.

 

Lot`s of good stuff coming for us in near future. Good job devs  :salute:

Posted

A lot of very exciting developments coming up. Personally I'm looking forward to tanks the most.

 

Didn't know about PWCG beta, so thanks to those that mentioned it. That could put the spark back in the aircraft side of things.

Posted

Amazing update!

 

So excited to hear the next big patch is around the corner with the maps and a new plane.

 

I remember seeing a tank pic or video a while back and I never thought that it would become part of the gameplay. That's a really nice surprise!

 

For those claiming that its a waste of resources, who are to say where the resources need to go?

The devs have done a great job so far (despite some whiners saying the opposite all the time) and I'm sure they have a good plan on how to merge both air and land combat.

Posted

So... THATs what will be interesting for airfield defence against vulchers.

 

That was my second thought when I saw the tank video. I'd be thrilled just to drive around at ground level exploring. Given the chance to shoot at some targets would be cool too. But honestly, I would enjoy the Hell out of manning some AA unit in MP and defend a target. Keeping my fingers crossed that comes to pass too.

Posted

Just amazing!!! Thank you

VBF-12_Snake9
Posted

 

 

but i can think of a number of flightsim things that might've needed a bit attention before adding tanks.

 

Trim on axis should be placed higher than tanks.  Get the guy off tanks and clear up some of this stuff that should have been done a year ago.   :rolleyes:

  • Upvote 1
Posted

This looks amazing Han! Nice driving!

The tanks what a great addition that would make! Are you guys actually going to add the tanks to BoS/BoM? I sure hope so, seeing players in tanks would broaden interest for sure one would think!  

Flight in the E-7 does appear to be different, wonder if the wing tips have something to do with that also?

The lighting within the cockpit of the E-7's metal surfaces looks really good as well.

Beta! This is good news.

Thank you for sharing this. :good:


P.S

Nice paint job on that E-7!

Posted

Thanks for the update.

 

 

Don't you mean... Tanx for the update... :crazy:

Posted

All good stuff, well done devs.

Posted

 

 

So are we going to be able to Flak, our enemies yet?

What a great idea! :) 

Posted

was looking forward for summertime map. Now am dreading update for adding of tanks. Well it was good while it had lasted.

Posted

Does the tanks have a realistic damage module? like the planes, or is it simpler?

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