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AlexandreCosta
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Before this game is abandoned I really hope they fix the wingmen radio instructions and AI in general. So as least we can enjoy the single player experience way better.

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Enceladus828
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I wouldn’t expect anything too major with that. The devs stated in Brief Room 1 that for you to be warned of incoming aircraft by your wingmen and to request help would require a major overhaul of the AI

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Jackfraser24
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On 6/20/2025 at 11:10 PM, BlitzPig_EL said:

Who is going to build the map?  The IL2 Team surely will not be doing it.  So who then?  A volunteer team?  If they would start today the map would not be finished for over two years, at best, and more likely five.  This version of the game will be long abandoned by the majority of players by then.  

All very good points. 

BlitzPig_EL
Posted

I have a lucid moment now and then.

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Jackfraser24
Posted (edited)
On 6/25/2025 at 1:39 PM, BlitzPig_EL said:

I have a lucid moment now and then.

I just wish there was somewhere else other than Kuban where we could use Eastern Front planes that were in service in 1943 such as the Bf-109 G-4/6, Fw-190 A-5/6, La-5F/FN and Yak-9T. Adding maps such as Crimea, Kursk and Smolensk would give them a new purpose thus increasing their value and contribution to Great Battles. And it would shed light on other areas of the Eastern Front during 1943. 

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BlackSix
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19 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I just wish there was somewhere else other than Kuban where we could use Eastern Front planes that were in service in 1943 such as the Bf-109 G-4/6, Fw-190 A-5/6, La-5F/FN and Yak-9T. Adding maps such as Crimea, Kursk and Smolensk would give them a new purpose thus increasing their value and contribution to Great Battles. And it would shed light on other areas of the Eastern Front during 1943. 

We plan to use these planes in the Battle of Odessa 1944 and Battle of Leningrad 1944 careers.

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ITAF_Rani
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, BlackSix said:

We plan to use these planes in the Battle of Odessa 1944 and Battle of Leningrad 1944 careers.

Hi Blacksix could we have same info about next IL2GB development in 2026?

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BlackSix
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1 hour ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Hi Blacksix could we have same info about next IL2GB development in 2026?

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Please, ask Luke about such things))

Jackfraser24
Posted
On 6/21/2025 at 3:30 AM, Enceladus828 said:

I wouldn’t expect anything too major with that. The devs stated in Brief Room 1 that for you to be warned of incoming aircraft by your wingmen and to request help would require a major overhaul of the AI

Would the costs outweigh the benefits for overhauling the AI?

 

Could a third party team work on the AI for IL-2 realistically?

ITAF_Rani
Posted
On 6/26/2025 at 12:58 PM, BlackSix said:

Please, ask Luke about such things))

Hope Luke...can give us same info..

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Posted
59 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Could a third party team work on the AI for IL-2 realistically?

 

No.

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JG4_Moltke1871
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Would the devs and community manager be willing to participate in a Q&A in a pleasant atmosphere to reveal more about the plans for Great Battles in 2026?
 

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marcost
Posted

Nobody expects that

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ITAF_Rani
Posted
1 hour ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

Would the devs and community manager be willing to participate in a Q&A in a pleasant atmosphere to reveal more about the plans for Great Battles in 2026?
 

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Yes great thing ...hoping so !!

JG4_Moltke1871
Posted
32 minutes ago, marcost said:

Nobody expects that

They announced themselves there is something in the pipe 😉

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marcost
Posted
38 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

They announced themselves there is something in the pipe 😉

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition 😉

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Jackfraser24
Posted

I guess that they didn't say which Saturday...

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Posted

Oh, they edited the Youtube post to say that it will be on Monday.

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ITAF_Rani
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On 7/6/2025 at 1:00 PM, Aapje said:

Oh, they edited the Youtube post to say that it will be on Monday.

Ther was a new Korea DD yesterday, nothing related to GB..

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Oh, I accidentally published here instead of the Korea part of the forum. I usually look at the 'unread'-view, so then I can miss where the thread is, exactly.

JG4_Moltke1871
Posted

When can do this ?

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ST_Catchov
Posted

What about this. And we get a Morane Parasol. Of course, it's top secret so Luke can't say yet hence the silence.

 

Flight Sub-Lieutenant Warneford Attacking the Zeppelin, 7 June 1915

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tattywelshie
Posted

Wonder if there's any chance of a GB DD today? What say you @LukeFF?

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Posted

Negatory, sorry 🙂

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JG4_Moltke1871
Posted

Something nice for our addicted brains with withdrawal symptoms today to prevent further hallucinations ?

 

 

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Trooper117
Posted

''Can't..... tear..... my eyes..... away!

Jackfraser24
Posted (edited)

I was kind of hoping for a Great Battles news update today. It's be well over two months since the last one.

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ST_Catchov
Posted

I'm not sure if this photograph is entirely accurate but it is of a Zeppelin so quite relevant and possibly indicative of current progress.

 

LZ 59 Crash | Schiff, Zeppelin, Luftfahrt

 

 

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JG4_Moltke1871
Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

I'm not sure if this photograph is entirely accurate but it is of a Zeppelin so quite relevant and possibly indicative of current progress.

 

LZ 59 Crash | Schiff, Zeppelin, Luftfahrt

 

 


 

(Secret images from the 1CGS development workshop) 🤫

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Jackfraser24
Posted

I am looking forwards to the next DD update.

Trooper117
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On 7/26/2025 at 11:53 PM, ST_Catchov said:

I'm not sure if this photograph is entirely accurate but it is of a Zeppelin so quite relevant and possibly indicative of current progress.

 

A little bit of history on that photo...

Zeppelin L20, raider of Loughborough on 31 January 1916

Constructed as LZ 59 at Friedrichshafen, and first flown on 21 Dec 1915, L 20 was based at Tønder until 21 Feb 1916 then moved to Seddin until 6 Apr, at which time it was re-deployed to Tønder. During its four months in service, the 35,800m³ L 20 made nineteen flights covering a total of 7,211 km; including six reconnaissance missions and two successful bombing raids over England.

ST_Catchov
Posted
10 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

A little bit of history on that photo...

Zeppelin L20, raider of Loughborough on 31 January 1916

Constructed as LZ 59 at Friedrichshafen, and first flown on 21 Dec 1915, L 20 was based at Tønder until 21 Feb 1916 then moved to Seddin until 6 Apr, at which time it was re-deployed to Tønder. During its four months in service, the 35,800m³ L 20 made nineteen flights covering a total of 7,211 km; including six reconnaissance missions and two successful bombing raids over England.

 

Yes, her demise was quite dramatic and no, she was not shot down but rather suffered some unfortunate ..... nah peeps can read about it themselves. It's interesting stuff.

 

I'm hoping one day 1C will consider making one of them things for FC.

BladeMeister
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On 6/20/2025 at 11:30 AM, Enceladus828 said:

I wouldn’t expect anything too major with that. The devs stated in Brief Room 1 that for you to be warned of incoming aircraft by your wingmen and to request help would require a major overhaul of the AI

And they better do a major overhaul of the AI or I'm out. ROF needed it and they didn't do it. Great Battles needed it and they didn't do it. If this team does all of this work bringing this engine up to date and optimizes it take advantage of multicore CPUs and doesn't vastly improve the AI and comms, then it will be the end of IL2 for any serious single player support. I am in a wait see pattern because I will not by another sim from 1C/777 if they are going to include the same old pretty much boring and severely limited AI and especially AI to player and player to AI comms and control.

My 2 cents.

 

S!Blade<><

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MDzmitry
Posted (edited)
2 часа назад, BladeMeister сказал:

AI to player and player to AI comms and control.

Honestly, I understand your concern. But I'll play the Devil's advocate and say that it's quite unlikely that we'll see any new major systems implemented. A bit too tall an order for a developer having one's hands full working on a completely new entry.

Still, I too would like to see at least some improvements on this front, which I've tried to make as "not bothersome" as possible:

1) AI to player communication: my foremost gripe is how the AI more often than not tends to engage an enemy without any prior warning. Occasionally they use the "Engaging ___, (bearing), (distance)". But that's not consistent and lacks the feel of the "it's begun". What I'd suggest is recording literally 1 line (albeit, ideally, in multiple voices) for the commander to say: "Звено (or Эскадрилья), в атаку! (bearing)" for the Soviets, something along the lines of "Horrido! (bearing)" for the Germans, "Bandits, (bearing), attack!" for the Americans and "Tally-ho! (bearing)" for the Brits. Just examples that pop to my mind. Maybe also add target's relative altitude after its bearing while we're at it, both are already present and used in the "Engaging" message.
That would be rather easy to trigger - by tying this line to the AI's switch from passive flying to aggressive. Alternatively, if the player's a squad leader, then it can replace his aforementioned "personal" line of "Engaging ..." to substitute the originally solitary line with a call for an entire flight to engage.
2) Player to AI communication: I'm sorry in advance for bringing this up, but (as an example) in War Thunder there's a sub-menu of voice commands. They don't do anything but let the player communicate his intent, and honestly something similar could be done at least in IL-2's single player (if not also in MP). We already have a full list of statements like "out of ammo", "returning to base", etc. What's required in this case is to provide a menu similar to the one accessible (originally) through ~ to call upon these voice lines.
Or maybe even just add said commands within that very menu (there we already have pilot gestures and, for flight leaders, commands to AI).
And what could be the cherry on top for this would be the simple reply like "(Player's call sign and number), roger". 

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BlitzPig_EL
Posted

777 is long out of the picture.

ST_Catchov
Posted
4 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

And they better do a major overhaul of the AI or I'm out.

 

Over the years it's been said they've been trying to get a decent AI team to correct the multiple AI issues for what ....  a decade or so. But It's really, really hard. We just can't find the right dude. But we tried see, really, really hard. Obligation fulfilled. Tick.

 

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22 minutes ago, ST_Catchov said:

Over the years it's been said they've been trying to get a decent AI team to correct the multiple AI issues for what ....  a decade or so. But It's really, really hard. We just can't find the right dude. But we tried see, really, really hard. Obligation fulfilled. Tick.

 

The truth of the matter is that good AI developers are in very high demand. We're hardly the first wargame developer out there who's had a hard time securing someone to do AI work for them, so if you think we've not been trying to find someone you are greatly mistaken. 🙂

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