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So? What's up for today or tomorrow?

 

Screens of the new IL-2 flying on the Kuban map (or maybe the Spit)?

 

Patch notes for the coming update?

 

Screens of the new water effects?

 

A more detailed insight into the new rudder forces model?

 

Take your pick.

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we're near to the release of the next patch. maybe some details on the things coming? or skin preview for Heinkel 111 or Fw 190 A-5 

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Oh the skins for the 190 would be good. The generic one we've seen was underwhelming.

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Yes I think some good old fashioned Il2 DD would be nice with my paczki on Fat Thursday.

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It's the Russian Defender of the Fatherland for them this weekend so it would be a great weekend for some news but also a great weekend for them to have some time off so it could go either way I guess?!

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since when is Russia the Fatherland? 

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since when is Russia the Fatherland?

IIRC the commonly used term "rodina" or "rodinu" simply means "homeland" or "family", neither "father-" nor "motherland" as it is usually translated.

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I want to hear more on the A-20B!

 

I'm sure not a lot has happened with it since the last update though, so any of the stuff Finkeren mentioned is good too lol

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since when is Russia the Fatherland?

Oh you know - Mother Russia the Fatherland.

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since when is Russia the Fatherland? 

 

Since...history

 

Velikaya Otechestvennaya Voyna, the Great Patriotic (Fatherland) War, from the word otechestvo, fatherland (otets = father)

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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Oh you know - Mother Russia the Fatherland.

Single parenting is rough

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Since...history

 

Velikaya Otechestvennaya Voyna, the Great Patriotic (Fatherland) War, from the word otechestvo, fatherland (otets = father)

 

Cheers Dakpilot

no historically, Russia is known as the Motherland. first association when i hear Fatherland is Germany

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no historically, Russia is known as the Motherland. first association when i hear Fatherland is Germany

 

Not trying to be rude but perhaps you may give some thought to the fact that there is much history in the world that is not only from YOUR personal perspective

 

It has been 'Defender of the Fatherland Day' since 1919

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_of_the_Fatherland_Day

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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If not Thursday, then definitely Friday.  Which is actually Saturday if you are living where I do.  :happy:

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If not Thursday, then definitely Friday.  Which is actually Saturday if you are living where I do.  :happy:

Where we do. I wonder how many of us there are down here?

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Not trying to be rude but perhaps you may give some thought to the fact that there is much history in the world that is not only from YOUR personal perspective

 

It has been 'Defender of the Fatherland Day' since 1919

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_of_the_Fatherland_Day

 

Cheers Dakpilot

it's not my personal view, google "for the fatherland" and after that "for the motherland" and look at the pictures you will find. that's simply the general perception.

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it's not my personal view, google "for the fatherland" and after that "for the motherland" and look at the pictures you will find. that's simply the general perception.

 

Well I guess you will just have to tell everyone in Russia they have been getting it wrong since 1919....

 

sheesh give it up already, accept that this is the name of the holiday for hundreds of millions of people for nearly 100 years....

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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Well I guess you will just have to tell everyone in Russia they have been getting it wrong since 1919....

 

sheesh give it up already, accept that this is the name of the holiday for hundreds of millions of people for nearly 100 years....

 

Cheers Dakpilot

A hundred years...? The wikipedia article you linked explicitly states that it was given that name in 2002, by Putin. Before then it was various versions of Red/Soviet Army day, commemorating the creation of the armed forces.

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Does it really matter?

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Not at all, I'm quite confused as to what algorithms decide what trivial topics will become a point of contention for any given thread, it did seem a bit unfair on Asgar though - But I'm just here to talk about the Kuban map or the new Heinkel. My black bomber heart is all aflutter!

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I don't think Putin invented this word " otechestvo" or this phrase,  День защитника Отечества  in 2002?

 

the holiday has been around for nearly 100 years

 

Seriously are people so upset by the use of Fatherland in another culture? does National Socialism have a licence for it?

 

as said does it really matter? and why is it important, Rodina does not even translate as " Motherland" both phrases were 'appropriated' at times in history for Nationalistic propaganda, get over it

 

The Holiday is called what it is and that is just a simple fact

 

**edit** I am sure this same discussion was started about this holiday name last or year before... :rolleyes:

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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Exactly noone is upset about the word fatherland, Dak. Ansgar was making an observation about the terms in popular culture, I was pointing out that you misquoted the article and you seem to be upset about the term Motherland, but Finkeren is right, let's just move on.

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Exactly noone is upset about the word fatherland, Dak. Ansgar was making an observation about the terms in popular culture, I was pointing out that you misquoted the article and you seem to be upset about the term Motherland, but Finkeren is right, let's just move on.

 

How on earth would you construe that I am upset about Motherland from anything I said, I am not Russian or have any ties, the only thing I find mildly upsetting is when "popular culture" is used instead of real history and facts  :)

 

time to move on

 

maybe we will get a stealth DD update today! it has happened before on a friday  :salute:

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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Exactly noone is upset about the word fatherland, Dak. Ansgar was making an observation about the terms in popular culture, I was pointing out that you misquoted the article and you seem to be upset about the term Motherland, but Finkeren is right, let's just move on.

yep exactly, only one upset is clearly Dakpilot

 

also: Video of MG 131 in use for suprise DD today

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Does it really matter?

No, but maybe they just really want the Devs to clarify in the DD what we should call it in the Simulator.

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Word otechestvo in russian means fatherland. Great Patriotic War is an english translation,maybe more precise would be Great War for Fatherland. Mother Russia is a personification of the Fatherland transferring gendre to feminin. In russian " Mat Rus" for the land that gives birth and life to Russians. In slavic countries we reffer to fatherland in terms of possession of "land of our fathers" to express that country we live in was that of fathers and fathers of their fathers. Feminine personification reffers more to emotional bondage.

In slovak language we have simmilar word " otchina" but it is a bit archaic and not many people use it in common speach.

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yep exactly, only one upset is clearly Dakpilot

 

also: Video of MG 131 in use for suprise DD today

 

Not upset, just disappointed with attitude, because HURR DURR "google Fatherland you will see it is German, that is proof"

 

Time to move on

 

Cheers Dakpilot

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For the brotherland!

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Bros before krauts?

ShamrockOneFive
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We're going to have to add some lines to the Bro Code here :)

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We're going to have to add some lines to the Bro Code here :)

The Brogrammers are on it!

SCG_Space_Ghost
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Bros before krauts?

 

Brats with kraut?

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Give them DD quickly. They are getting lunatic....  :)

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Give them DD quickly. They are getting lunatic.... :)

Few shots of borovicka from Zufanek in the evening will do it for me even without DD ;)
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It is a blasphemy. I won't fall asleep without DD tonight  :P   

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I'm gonna hold my breath until they release the DD!!! I swear!

SCG_Space_Ghost
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I'm gonna hold my breath until they release the DD!!! I swear!

 

Raaaid already has that covered.

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I'm gonna hold my breath until they release the DD!!! I swear!

Finkeren thinks he can outsmart us. We know you use your fingers to type, not your breath! :P

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