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Irishratticus72
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3 minutes ago, BladeMeister said:

I watched that video and let's be honest, he jumped each one of his victims, except one, without them knowing he was even coming. Good tactics by him but none of them even tried to fight except the one P51. That's not a good example of the K4s superiority, but only of poor SA of the opponents. Again, don't get me wrong, I love the K4, but these were just opportunistic bounces to good to pass up and look good in a video at the same time.

 

S!Blade<><

He jumps victims, and gets YouTube views, but when I jump my victims, I end up in court. Life's not fair sometimes..... ?

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8 minutes ago, BladeMeister said:

I watched that video and let's be honest, he jumped each one of his victims, except one, without them knowing he was even coming. Good tactics by him but none of them even tried to fight except the one P51. That's not a good example of the K4s superiority, but only of poor SA of the opponents. Again, don't get me wrong, I love the K4, but these were just opportunistic bounces to good to pass up and look good in a video at the same time.

 

S!Blade<><

 

Sounds like he did it right.

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8 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

Witn 4 20 Mike Mikes and a good pilot I hardly think the Mossie will be Cannon fodder for any Hun kite. Why would anyone use the Mossie in a traditional bomber role? It is a low level fighter attack aircraft pretty much.  If we get the Cookie Monster then yes, haul A$$ in drop that Biitch and haul A$$ out, or right after drop, go looking for K4 Cannon Fodder, lliterally. No the Mossie is not going to turn fight with you just like the 109 won't turn fight with the Spitty. Whatever gets the job done, sneaking, sleuthing, hiding under the treeline, Mossie's FTW! One good first pass and there won't be anything left of the K4 to brag about. The same goes for the 410(it's a new day, cake day is gone, fights on!) the 190 or any of the Hun kites!

 

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Exactly - it's all about using a plane to its strengths. Mosquitos weren't giant heavy fighters going around tangling with German day fighters, because that wasn't their job. However, one does read quite a few accounts of them ambushing German planes at night, including single seaters. The night attack Fw 190s of KG 51 found that out the hard way. 

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16 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

Witn 4 20 Mike Mikes and a good pilot I hardly think the Mossie will be Cannon fodder for any Hun kite. Why would anyone use the Mossie in a traditional bomber role? It is a low level fighter attack aircraft pretty much. 

 

If you read through the ORBs of the squadrons with FBs, the vast majority of Fighter Command and 2 TAF Mosquito day operations were two-ship Rangers that required significant low altitude cloud cover. That is not to ignore the early conversion operations of say 107 Sqn or 613 Sqn prior to D-Day that tried six-ship boxes (3 pairs) to attack Crossbow sites, or late 1944 fighter escort missions for Lancasters on daylight ops to the west coast of France. That is to say, things like Operation Jericho were atypical.

 

The ORBs are filled with entries of day Rangers where the sortie was "abortive" due to insufficient cloud cover. When they did venture out in large formations, they typically had a squadron of Mustangs or Typhoons to keep the "snappers" at bay.

 

As D-Day approached, fewer daylight sorties were flown by 2 TAF Mosquito FB.VIs. This chart doesn't include 418 Sqn or 605 Sqn as they were Intruder squadrons in 11 Group Fighter Command (until Nov 1944) or 23 Sqn that was flying Intruder Ops in the Med (until joining 100 Group Bomber Command in June 44).

 

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Since MP servers are essentially day CAVU sandboxes (sure there's a tiny layer of clouds), I agree with @BlitzPig_EL.  I genuinely suspect that a typical MP day for a 1GCCMP (M for Mosquito) will look like 22 Feb 1945 (Operation Clarion) did IRL for FB pilots. From a project I'm slowly working on as I go through all the ORBs, the worst day for losses of Mosquito FB.VIs.

 

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On second thoughts, are we really sure we want this thing in game??  Honestly, it looks like a pimp chewing a matchstick..

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3 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

On second thoughts, are we really sure we want this thing in game??  Honestly, it looks like a pimp chewing a matchstick..

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You’re really scared of that matchstick aren’t you? ?

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2 minutes ago, Asgar said:

You’re really scared of that matchstick aren’t you? ?


Giant matchsticks freak me out man! ?

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How many WG-21 rockets do you want to see available to the Me 410? I say yes!
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Posted
4 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

Giant matchsticks

Feel like I've just rumbled the secret of your 'small' models....

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JG4_Moltke1871
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1 hour ago, Asgar said:

How many WG-21 rockets do you want to see available to the Me 410? I say yes!
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Uuuuuuh, wow ?

6x 21cm is a devastating firepower ?

If its really an available loadout I hope can shoot em single. I know they was used against big Bomber Formations but the 21cm also have a big impact on the ground and on ships. 
Than throw away the barrels and say good bye ?? 

ALL QUIET ON WESTERN FRONT?

Curious about the upcoming map ?

 

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Bremspropeller
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Well, a solution to the problem could be a "Twins only" server.

 

Keeps all the kewl kids out...probably.

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Two superchargers and a big gun for big boys  

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Pretty sure Barbette is a girl’s name...

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=621=Samikatz
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1 hour ago, Bremspropeller said:

Well, a solution to the problem could be a "Twins only" server.

 

Keeps all the kewl kids out...probably.

 

What would a night battles server look like?

 

Allies:

- Mosquito

- A-20

- U-2VS

- Pe-2? (as a standin for the Pe-3?)

 

Axis:

- Me-410

- Ju-88A/C

- Bf-110s

- He-111 I guess

 

Tempting to add the P-38 (as the M) so the Allies have more twin variety but it would be kinda dominant?

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34 minutes ago, =SquadTag=Username_ said:

Two superchargers and a big gun for big boys  

 

When you put it that way, it is really asking for people to talk about 'compensating' with a BK-5... ?

 

 

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2 hours ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

Uuuuuuh, wow ?

6x 21cm is a devastating firepower ?

If its really an available loadout I hope can shoot em single. I know they was used against big Bomber Formations but the 21cm also have a big impact on the ground and on ships. 
Than throw away the barrels and say good bye ?? 

ALL QUIET ON WESTERN FRONT?

Curious about the upcoming map ?

 

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A lot of western front jagdgeschwader used them for ground attack during the Normandy campaign. These units were given bombs but had no experience using them. They did have plenty of experience shooting these things at bombers though so they just switched over to shooting them at ground targets. 

 

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II/JG17_HerrMurf
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On 2/10/2022 at 7:11 AM, BlitzPig_EL said:

My comment was based on the folks who wanted the pure bomber version with the "cookie cutter" bomb.  An unarmed aircraft like that won't cut it in the condensed environment like we have in the sim.  I am looking forward to the version we are getting and will use it a lot, but I have no delusions about beating human flown 109s or 190s with it.  Against another human the Mossie will be fodder. It is neither fast enough or maneuverable enough to survive against a well flown single seater.  Beating up on AIs won't be an issue though, I have done that many times with the A20. 


With the advent (or return, depending on your perspective) of recon in BoX the pure bomber version of the Mosquito has a role outside of level bombing. Considering how nearly defenseless armed twins are (other than the Pe2) in the sim, a slick Mosquito isn’t going to fare any worse than what we’ve got already, either. I’d love to have the glass nosed twin.

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1 minute ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

(other than the Pe2)

Lol, think you mean 110 buddy ;)

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410! 410! 410! 

Okay I'm done for today

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Everybody:
410, 410, 410, 410, 410, 410!!!!

Devs:
Mosquito!

Everybody:
.... wooden 410, wooden 410, wooden 410!!!:drinks:

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I just wonder if FC3 will bring in some of the Eastern front content from RoF. I miss that map. I need to reinstall RoF...

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ShamrockOneFive
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2 hours ago, 76IAP-Black said:

Everybody:
410, 410, 410, 410, 410, 410!!!!

Devs:
Mosquito!

Everybody:
.... wooden 410, wooden 410, wooden 410!!!:drinks:

 

Ju88C-6? ?

Posted
32 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

Ju88C-6? ?

Yes, hunting trains on the Eastern Front with Ju88C6 by night !!!!

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6./ZG26_Custard
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Maybe one day?

 

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51 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

Ju88C-6? ?

 

Yes most likely, because it is AFAIK the next plane scheduled for release.

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30 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

Maybe one day?

 

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We would need th B17 !

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6./ZG26_Custard
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Just now, jeanba said:

We would need th B17 !

That's why I said maybe one day. I wouldn't care if it was just AI at this point.

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2 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

That's why I said maybe one day. I wouldn't care if it was just AI at this point.

Let's trust Jason, he knows the business 

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I would not be against a B-17 IA.?

 

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1 hour ago, sevenless said:

 

Yes most likely, because it is AFAIK the next plane scheduled for release.

Who cares it’s looks like any other 88. we‘ve all seen them. Show us the 410!

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=621=Samikatz
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Considering the last DD explicitly said today's DD would be Ju-88 pics, I think the 410 yelling is going to lead to disappointment

BMA_FlyingShark
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Maybe we'll get some heads up about the new runways.

Even if only a detail, I'm super stoked for them, they will add a lot to the immersion.

 

Have a nice day.

 

:salute:

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3 months now, waiting on news for 410 feels like walking through a desert.

 

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6 hours ago, Asgar said:

410! 410! 410! 

Okay I'm done for today

Here, let me fix that for you!:thank_you:

 

MOSSIE! MOSSIE! MOSSIE!

Ok, I'm done for today.

 

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JG4_Moltke1871
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Waitress… a bit of Junkers today please ?image.gif.91804c56a52602fa08d6add204b3e6a6.gifA97DB986-3BD4-474B-B91B-A4206D6EEFF6.thumb.gif.d746c8789f94e65ff4287a91650a8ea1.gif

 

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Don't they have one of those in CLOD/DWT?:ph34r:

 

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JG4_Moltke1871
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3 minutes ago, BladeMeister said:

Don't they have one of those in CLOD/DWT?:ph34r:

 

S!Blade<><


 

Soon we all have in our lovely hangar ?

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Yeah, they ain't making one with BMWs unfortunately.

 

Ju88S would have been a ton of fun but...nope.

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