danielprates Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 17 hours ago, LF_Gallahad said: P-47 also were in a more dangerous enviorement in the last part of the war, ground attacks are always tough, even debris can take you down. This is true. When you see rough numbers on losses, say comparing two planes and which suffered more losses, you automatically think that one got "shot down while in aerial combat" more than the other, but it may be more complicated than that. Specially if one was more used in ground attack roles. 1
EAF19_Marsh Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BlackSix said: At present we've no such plans, there will be 2 tank scripted campaigns only. But presume the map is useable for aircraft? Suspect 3rd party campaigns will follow fast. Edited November 15, 2018 by EAF19_Marsh
Finkeren Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said: But presume the map is useable for aircraft? Suspect 3rd party campaigns will follow fast. It is usable for aircraft, but at only 100x100km it is a very small map to base any kind of campaign or career for pilots on.
The-Doctor Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 If I stepped into the jug thus week or the upcoming one, i promise on the 27th of Nov. i’ll give away 4 copies if BoBP as a support to the team for their massive efforts . 2
1CGS BlackSix Posted November 15, 2018 1CGS Posted November 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Finkeren said: It is usable for aircraft, but at only 100x100km it is a very small map to base any kind of campaign or career for pilots on. This map has enough size to show German offensive (July 5-17) and Soviet counter offensive till August 5 on the southern flank of the Kursk battle. But you need to have TC and BOK or TC and one of the collector plane to play such career. I don't know if we make such decision... 31 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said: But presume the map is useable for aircraft? Suspect 3rd party campaigns will follow fast. Of course, there will be several Russian bases and all main German airfields near Belgorod. 2
sevenless Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, BlackSix said: This map has enough size to show German offensive (July 5-17) and Soviet counter offensive till August 5 on the southern flank of the Kursk battle. But you need to have TC and BOK or TC and one of the collector plane to play such career. I don't know if we make such decision... Please do it and I can tell you, if you release a Yak-9 as a supplement I would buy that also. 1 1
1CGS BlackSix Posted November 15, 2018 1CGS Posted November 15, 2018 Ask Jason I think this is a very difficult and risky decision. 1 1
Danziger Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 A scripted campaign for certain aircrafts could be good but I don't think a career would be practical.
NN_RugbyGoth Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 39 minutes ago, sevenless said: Please do it and I can tell you, if you release a Yak-9 as a supplement I would buy that also. And Yak3! Wololo? 2
Finkeren Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, NN_RugbyGoth said: And Yak3! Wololo? The Yak-3 would have no use on the Prokhorovka map - unlike the Yak-9. I would gladly pay 20$ each for a Yak-9 (or preferably a Yak-9T) and a late series LaGG-3. Add in a Ju 87D5 and you have nearly everything you could wish for in a Kursk plane set. 4
216th_Jordan Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 There is so much I want to see in this sim. But right now there is so much in the pipe, lets see how that goes first!
sevenless Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, NN_RugbyGoth said: And Yak3! Wololo? Yeah also Yak 3, but afaik it wasnt available at Kursk, but was introduced early 1944.
EAF19_Marsh Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, BlackSix said: Ask Jason I think this is a very difficult and risky decision. If you could offer early access-type pay scheme for a Yak-9 (pay now, released in the next few months) I expect - though obviously it is only an observation - that there would be considerable interest. But that is also a resource management question for the team. Edited November 15, 2018 by EAF19_Marsh
sevenless Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 51 minutes ago, BlackSix said: Ask Jason I think this is a very difficult and risky decision. If you would put the Yak-9 on a preorder page right now, I would order it quicker than you can say "peep". Yes discuss it with the team if you have ressources for doing it. My bet is you would get a lot of additional sales for TC only due to the fact that the map would be either integrated in the current career system or ship with additional campaigns for planes.
LuftManu Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 Exciting times ahead! I would love a dedicated Tank hunter campaign on TC map. It would be great to use that new vehicle damage model. I think, like someone said before, that scripted campaigns would be a great idea. Also, like sevenless said, adding a small "career" even for a week with 2 or 3 planes for the east front would be top notch.
Finkeren Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, NN_RugbyGoth said: P47 and K4 official skins today? We have had the P-47 ones already. I think you are right about the K4 skins, but honestly I’d rather get something that we aren’t gonna have on our own harddrives in little over a week.
CrazyDuck Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 Well, basic Yak-9 isn't much different from the Yak-1B, which we already have. Yak-9T, M or U are of course another story and I'd gladly pay for them. 1
HandyNasty Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 please something that just doesn't have anything to do with the upcoming planes, I can't handle hearing/seeing something about these without actually getting my hands on them Maybe - a look at the advancements on the different maps - a look at how AirMarshall would be implemented - an explanation on how they're implementing high-mach effects and what effects it'll have on flight characteristics for different planes - ... 1
NN_RugbyGoth Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 39 minutes ago, =FSB=HandyNasty said: a look at how AirMarshall would be implemented THIS! 1
1CGS BlackSix Posted November 16, 2018 1CGS Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, CrazyDuck said: Well, basic Yak-9 isn't much different from the Yak-1B, which we already have. Yak-9T, M or U are of course another story and I'd gladly pay for them. There were two branches of the evolution of Yakovlev fighters. The first branch is the Yak-1, Yak-1b and Yak-3 and the second is the Yak-7 two-seat training aircraft. Due to heavy losses in 1941, the Yak-7s began to be released as combat fighters. You can see its late modification Yak-7b in BOK. The Yak-9/9D/9DD is very close in design to the later Yak-7b. 1 4 1
CountZero Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 And only Yak-9U would bring noticable performance boost compared to Yak-7B we already have
Diggun Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 Oh it is so on. Do not come in here telling me it is not on, when it is so clearly on. 2
1CGS BlackSix Posted November 16, 2018 1CGS Posted November 16, 2018 AFAIK, it's not an update. 9 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said: And only Yak-9U would bring noticable performance boost compared to Yak-7B we already have But in comparison with Yak-7b, Yak-9 is a very sightly aircraft. It would be a great collection plane. 2 1 2 3
Archie Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, BlackSix said: Yak-9 is a very sightly aircraft. It would be a great collection plane. Yak-9 confirmed! ? (only joking B6 )
CountZero Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 Yaes Yak-9 is good looker and head turner, but Yak-9U has it all good looks and performance its top pick in any Yak miss contest, just look at that bubble curves and that botom rad and nouse is also slimlined and without bunmps compared to early yaks
-=PHX=-SuperEtendard Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BlackSix said: It would be a great collection plane. Imho not that much since its very similar to the Yak-1B in both performance and looks. I know they have their development differences, different structure and cockpit, but I feel like I wont be getting much more in comparison to the Yak-1B which is a collector already. One of the subvariants like Count Zero mentioned (T, M, U) would add something more unique to it. Imho the place for a regular Yak-9 or Yak-9D in the sim would be as part of a standard plane list inside an expansion Edited November 16, 2018 by -=PHX=-SuperEtendard 1
1CGS BlackSix Posted November 16, 2018 1CGS Posted November 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said: Yaes Yak-9 is good looker and head turner, but Yak-9U has it all good looks and performance its top pick in any Yak miss contest, just look at that bubble curves and that botom rad and nouse is also slimlined and without bunmps compared to early yaks We won't be able to use any soviet planes produced in 1944 -45 in the Eastern Front career. It would be the planes only for MP and quick missions. 1 2
Danziger Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, BlackSix said: AFAIK, it's not an update. But in comparison with Yak-7b, Yak-9 is a very sightly aircraft. It would be a great collection plane. This. I was so disappointed when the Yak-7b was announced in the BoK plane set instead of the Yak-9. I get it the extra 12.7 in the nose is good but does it really make up for being so ugly???
1CGS BlackSix Posted November 16, 2018 1CGS Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, Danziger said: This. I was so disappointed when the Yak-7b was announced in the BoK plane set instead of the Yak-9. There were 3 Yak-7b regiments and only 10-12 Yak-9 planes in the spring Kuban air battle. The choice was obvious... 9
-=PHX=-SuperEtendard Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, BlackSix said: We won't be able to use any soviet planes produced in 1944 -45 in the Eastern Front career. It would be the planes only for MP and quick missions. Yeah, it would be mostly to have a Yak to go along the BoBP planes in MP given that we wont be seeing an Eastern Front expansion in some years, Jason said he wanted to make a Yak-9 or Yak-3, for the users that like Soviet planes 1
CountZero Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, BlackSix said: We won't be able to use any soviet planes produced in 1944 -45 in the Eastern Front career. It would be the planes only for MP and quick missions. Yes thats a problem with Yak-9s at this time, if Yak-9 or other 1943 yak-9s were available, guys who have Yak-1B or Yak-7b would probably see no point in geting it, but it could be used in SP campaigns in Kuban. But on other hand Yak-9s from 44-45 that could be good vs Doras and K-4s have no SP stuff like you say exept QM or maybe some user made scenarios on existing maps but "not full historical", so its not an easy choice Devs have there.
EAF19_Marsh Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 B6, out of interest is there a metric that you use for calculating RoI for a new aircraft? I ask only because there seems to be quite a lot of interest in the Yak-9 and what with the Prokhorovka map in the works, this is one of the few major types still missing for a full '43 set (maybe a Ju -87D-5 as well).
312_Lazy Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said: Yaes Yak-9 is good looker and head turner, but Yak-9U has it all good looks and performance its top pick in any Yak miss contest, just look at that bubble curves and that botom rad and nouse is also slimlined and without bunmps compared to early yaks The plane in the middle looks like Yak-9M to me (cockpit moved slightly backwards). AFAIK Yak-9D was almost identical to Yak-9D lookswise. 1
1CGS BlackSix Posted November 16, 2018 1CGS Posted November 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said: B6, out of interest is there a metric that you use for calculating RoI for a new aircraft? I ask only because there seems to be quite a lot of interest in the Yak-9 and what with the Prokhorovka map in the works, this is one of the few major types still missing for a full '43 set (maybe a Ju -87D-5 as well). I'm a historical consultant, I'm not engaged in analytics and I don't make any business decisions. Sorry, can't answer... 1
CountZero Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, 312_Lazy said: The plane in the middle looks like Yak-9M to me (cockpit moved slightly backwards). AFAIK Yak-9D was almost identical to Yak-9D lookswise. They were indentical in visal, M and D yes your right i tought that move of cockpit started with D and then just stay like that on M, but like you say that probably M regarding Yak-9M "The flight performance and the armament were equal to the Yak-9D. The new fighter differed from its predecessor i.i having a jettisonable canopy, automatic water temperature control unit and pneumatic rather than mechanical armament control." Yak-9T maybe is middle ground as it offer some better performace and new 37mm option, compared to Yak-1b, and it could probably be used on Clash at prohorovka map, so maybe some campaign for it could be officaly offered. Edited November 16, 2018 by 77.CountZero
EAF19_Marsh Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, BlackSix said: I'm a historical consultant, I'm not engaged in analytics and I don't make any business decisions. Sorry, can't answer... Understood. Thank you.
Ribbon Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 5:17 PM, Diggun said: It's cold outside There's no kind of atmosphere I'm all alone More or less Let me fly Far away from here Fun, fun, fun In the Sun, Sun Sun..... Red dwarf 1
senseispcc Posted November 16, 2018 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) Wayting. Yak 9 serie, Yak 3 serie, La 7 are late war Soviet planes (1944/1945) maybe a good idea for a new module Battle for Bagration or Battle for Berlin, Battle for Balaton?! Edited November 16, 2018 by senseispcc Addition
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