DD today?

[[CPT]milopugdog]

Might as well get this party started, bois.

 

[Finkeren]

Well, we got Tank Crew last week and a surprise look at the Po-2 as well, so as I see it, there are only a handful of options:

 

1. Fw 190A8 skins on display - we know it’s coming within a month, so might as well show it off.

 

2. More details on the BoBP map.

 

3. First screenies of Flying Circus in development.

 

4. Details on a new upcoming feature, most likely drop tanks.

 

5. Nothing, because the team is super busy putting together 3.005 for testing.

Edited June 28, 2018 by Finkeren

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Well, Po-2 was Newsletter, so we may still be in for a Po-2 Aerobatics and Pre-Order (wishful thinking)

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Why don't we just get a bot to start populating this thread every Thursday. 

Edited June 28, 2018 by AeroAce

[Finkeren]

2 minutes ago, AeroAce said:

Why don't we just get a bot to start populating this thread every Thursday. 

 

But what will we do then? I refuse to be replaced by a machine. I need this job....

[unreasonable]

25 minutes ago, AeroAce said:

Why don't we just get a bot to start populating this thread every Thursday. 

 

You mean you are not a bot? Are you sure?

[Feathered_IV]

On ‎6‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 10:24 PM, spartan85 said:

Dip dip potatoe chip....

 

You never know what's been in it...

[LuftManu]

We might be getting a new plane today or tomorrow ?

Tank crew preorders alongside Po-2 too

 

[Finkeren]

40 minutes ago, LF_ManuV said:

We might be getting a new plane today or tomorrow ?

Tank crew preorders alongside Po-2 too

 

 

Nah I think they said July for the first tanks (and likely the Fw 190A8) and the Po-2 looks further off still. Don’t you think they’ll have it on preorder for awhile before releasing it?

[Herne]

2 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

 

Nah I think they said July for the first tanks (and likely the Fw 190A8) and the Po-2 looks further off still. Don’t you think they’ll have it on preorder for awhile before releasing it?

 

Would be an awesome tease if the DD said that the Po-2 was finished, added to the live build, but no one can fly it until it goes up for sale, and then be really vague on just when that was likely to be

 

[LuftManu]

20 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

 

Nah I think they said July for the first tanks (and likely the Fw 190A8) and the Po-2 looks further off still. Don’t you think they’ll have it on preorder for awhile before releasing it?

Sorry, missunderstanding. I said that maybe we get the A8 and they start the preorders for Po2 and Tank crew

 

Edited June 28, 2018 by LF_ManuV

[Danziger]

It's too late for a DD today anyway

[Finkeren]

30 minutes ago, BorysVorobyov said:

It's too late for a DD today anyway

 

Way too late.

[Danziger]

Flying Circus news?

[ZachariasX]

9 minutes ago, BorysVorobyov said:

Flying Circus news?

You tease.

[Finkeren]

Nah they’re gonna open the preorders for Tank Crew and maybe the Po-2.

 

We know that the first TC content is coming in the next update, so it will have to be possible to but into before that.

[Blooddawn1942]

I'll be fine with an announcement of the Tank Crew pre order. But I need FC now! Can't wait anymore!!! 

[The-Doctor]

1 hour ago, Finkeren said:

Nah they’re gonna open the preorders for Tank Crew and maybe the Po-2.

 

We know that the first TC content is coming in the next update, so it will have to be possible to but into before that.

When you expect the upcoming update will drop?

[303_Bies]

1 hour ago, Finkeren said:

Nah they’re gonna open the preorders for Tank Crew and maybe the Po-2.

 

We know that the first TC content is coming in the next update, so it will have to be possible to but into before that.

 

I didn't hear some TC content is coming with the next patch.

Fw190A-8/F-8 will be released with the next update.

TC's preorder with two tanks will be available this month, probably at the end of July.

Po-2 is a collector plane - without preorder, it will be ready and available to buy after this summer.

I may be wrong but that's what i have read in DDs.

[Finkeren]

17 minutes ago, bies said:

 

I didn't hear some TC content is coming with the next patch.

Fw190A-8/F-8 will be released with the next update.

TC's preorder with two tanks will be available this month, probably at the end of July.

Po-2 is a collector plane - without preorder, it will be ready and available to buy after this summer.

I may be wrong but that's what i have read in DDs.

 

I think we are much on the same page here, but I just assume, that there will be only one update in July, hence the Fw 190A8 and the first to TC vehicles will be in the same update at the end of the month.

[303_Bies]

You mean TC will be intergated with IL2 like i.e. Kuban?

You may be right. Than it could mean only one update in July with both Fw190 and TC.

[BubiHUN]

4 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

 

I think we are much on the same page here, but I just assume, that there will be only one update in July, hence the Fw 190A8 and the first to TC vehicles will be in the same update at the end of the month.

So, the next update could arrive at the end of this month?

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Start Thursday auto spam !!

[Finkeren]

6 minutes ago, bies said:

You mean TC will be intergated with IL2 like i.e. Kuban?

 

The entire Legendary Battles series is fully integrated. Eventually we will be able to fly our planes at the Prokhorovka map, drive fully detailed tanks at Stalingrad and dogfight Me 262s in our Sopwith Camels (if that's what you want)

 

I do think though, that people who only own TC or FC will be able to install that separately without needing a full copy of the other titles installed as well, but we'll see how it unfolds.

10 minutes ago, -[HRAF]BubiHUN said:

So, the next update could arrive at the end of this month?

 

If it's only one update in July, then yes. They definitely said, that the tanks will come at the end of July, and that the Fw 190A8 was almost ready for testing. That, to me, points to one semi-large update at the end of the month.

[BubiHUN]

3 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

 

The entire Legendary Battles series is fully integrated. Eventually we will be able to fly our planes at the Prokhorovka map, drive fully detailed tanks at Stalingrad and dogfight Me 262s in our Sopwith Camels (if that's what you want)

 

I do think though, that people who only own TC or FC will be able to install that separately without needing a full copy of the other titles installed as well, but we'll see how it unfolds.

 

If it's only one update in July, then yes. They definitely said, that the tanks will come at the end of July, and that the Fw 190A8 was almost ready for testing. That, to me, points to one semi-large update at the end of the month.

I see. Thank you for the answer. 
See you around

[-TBC-AeroAce]

I really can't wait to try nail a 109 with a Sopwith.

[303_Bies]

Integration of all modules is great idea, except Flying Circus.

All this modules are WW2, FC is WW1.

Personally i would prefer FC to stay separated and to preserve it's unique WW1 style and UI.

It would be far more important than this one (pointless but funny) moment of 262 and Camel fight.

 

Maybe some compromise when you could run FC separately with WW1 UI OR with WW2 style IL2?

Anyway according to Jason it's not sure if it is possible to integrate WW1 and WW2 planes.

 

Edited July 5, 2018 by bies

[Feathered_IV]

1 hour ago, bies said:

Integration of all modules is great idea, except Flying Circus.

All this modules are WW2, FC is WW1.

Personally i would prefer FC to stay separated and to preserve it's unique WW1 style and UI.

It would be far more important than this one (pointless but funny) moment of 262 and Camel fight.

 

 

Well maybe if there is a whacky mismatch of a aircraft types it will help the game appeal to the DCS market.  

[klebor]

42 minutes ago, bies said:

Personally i would prefer FC to stay separated and to preserve it's unique WW1 style and UI.

It would be far more important than this one (pointless but funny) moment of 262 and Camel fight.

 

Yes, WWI GUI and menu was awesome. Far better than work in progress IL2.

WWI and WWII should stay separated. 

 

14 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

Well maybe if there is a whacky mismatch of a aircraft types it will help the game appeal to the DCS market.  

 

One single by far the biggest drawback of DCS is this lack of cohesion. WWII warbirds mixed with modern computer aided jet fighters, spiced with some '50 Korean planes and Vietnam era fighters being developed. As addition a few trainers and now even some civilian planes... Korean and Vietnam era fighters over Georgia/Ormuz/Belgium. And empty servers.

It would be a lot better for DCS to focus and publish ready Korea War, than Vietnam, than '80 cold war etc. The problem is they have too small control over their 3rd parties who calculates many factors developing some new planes.

 

I would like WWI and WWII should stay separated in BoX.

Edited July 5, 2018 by sereme1

[CanadaOne]

34 minutes ago, sereme1 said:

 

WWI and WWII should stay separated. 

 

 

 

I would like WWI and WWII should stay separated in BoX.

 

Give the buyer the choice.

 

If he wants to integrate them, should be able to. If he does not want to integrate them, he should be able to do that as well. How it affects someone even  0.00001% if another flyer, on another PC, is trying to shoot down a 109 in a Sopwith  Camel is beyond me.

 

Give buyer the choice. It's that simple.

[LuftManu]

While I agree you can give the buyer the chance to decide, having all of them under the same hood will be easier to mantain all expansions up to date and improve the player base.

[BMA_Hellbender]

54 minutes ago, sereme1 said:

Yes, WWI GUI and menu was awesome. Far better than work in progress IL2.

 

I would like WWI and WWII should stay separated in BoX.

 

I understand why you would want that, and when I look back at the early Rise of Flight hangar screen (in the pre-777 NeoQB days), all I can say is that I want it back.

 

 

 

It was eventually changed with the familiar museum screen (mainly due to performance reasons at the time), but that really did turn things a bit more stuffy.

 

Unlike Indiana Jones' Cross of Coronado, these planes don't belong in a museum -- they belong in the air!

 

 

 

 

 

While I'm also not keen to see that same SPAD spinning around inside IL-2's WWII-style hangar, if they completely separate the two it may hurt the far less popular WWI side of things in the long term.

 

It's always been my hope that many of the WWII flyers would sometimes "have a quick go at WWI", without even having to leave their beloved main game.

 

We always need more targets players!

Edited July 5, 2018 by Hellbender

[303_Bies]

12 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

Give the buyer the choice.

Yes but it is not sure if it is possible to mix the planes from FC with IL2. Jason said so in Q&A avilable on YT.

[Finkeren]

Don’t worry about the GUI. A major redesign of the GUI is one of the plans that Jason presented for this development cycle. This will almost certainly include unique designs for the Eastern Front titles, BoBP, TC and FC.

 

As for crossovers between titles, I definitely think it will just be a novelty, that will be available to the player to try out. It won’t be a part of actual gameplay - this isn’t WarThunder.

[unreasonable]

I would prefer FC to be a distinct GUI, mainly because the BoS one is horrible - the worst thing about the game, and in every way worse than RoF's. So there is a chance to get it right this time.  So I am glad to see Finkeren's comment.

 

In particular, the keybindings need to be a separate list. We do not need many of the WW2 keys, like 57 varieties of trim bindings, but we do need a few more, like blip, reload, and re-cock guns. (Jams/misfires really need to be there).  A RoF style page for key bindings/axis setting for each plane would also be very useful. 

[Feathered_IV]

21 minutes ago, Hellbender said:

 

I understand why you would want that, and when I look back at the early Rise of Flight hangar screen (in the pre-777 NeoQB days), all I can say is that I want it back.

 

 

 

It was eventually changed with the familiar museum screen (mainly due to performance reasons at the time), but that really did turn things a bit more stuffy.

 

 

That will always be my favourite 3D GUI.  I do miss it so.

[Finkeren]

Just now, unreasonable said:

I would prefer FC to be a distinct GUI, mainly because the BoS one is horrible - the worst thing about the game, and in every way worse than RoF's.

 

I'll agree that it looks worse. The BoX GUI is just the essence of blandness, but compared to the one in RoF, I have to say, that I find the BoX GUI somewhat more user friendly and accessible.

 

Build on RoF (preferably the original hangar design) for looks and BoX for functionality.

[ShamrockOneFive]

13 minutes ago, unreasonable said:

I would prefer FC to be a distinct GUI, mainly because the BoS one is horrible - the worst thing about the game, and in every way worse than RoF's. So there is a chance to get it right this time.  So I am glad to see Finkeren's comment.

 

In particular, the keybindings need to be a separate list. We do not need many of the WW2 keys, like 57 varieties of trim bindings, but we do need a few more, like blip, reload, and re-cock guns. (Jams/misfires really need to be there).  A RoF style page for key bindings/axis setting for each plane would also be very useful. 

 

It is on their roadmap thankfully to update the GUI.

 

Quote

-          More attractive GUI and better GUI optimization

 

My guess is that, in order to crank out IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad as quickly as possible, they had to cut a few corners and the GUI was one of those things that was cut.

[Danziger]

The BoX GUI is definitely more user friendly. It just needs some WW2 vintage vibe aesthetics. The current font and color scheme looks more modern. It would be cool if the scene would change depending on what "battle" you have selected. This way TC and FC could be represented. Maybe when you select BoMidway the hangar changes to a hangar deck in a carrier.

[Feathered_IV]

Moving the BoX menu music out of the gtp files and into the main directory would be good too.  That way users can change it to something they like.  The current menu theme sounds like a soundtrack to a very dreary journey.