IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Moscow Pre-Order Program

[Livai]

Question: What is much better than BoM?

This spoiler.......!

 

[Finkeren]

Infuriatingly there's just not enough to interest me. Even at half the advertised price.

 

As an offliner I still have no reason to fly BOS and as there has been no announcement about a decent campaign, if I bought BOM it'd just be a new set of unflown planes for me.

 

I'll clearly be better off waiting until the price drops and for the community to provide the campaigns.

 

Sorry I can't join in the celebration.

 

I hear you EO. If I were a pure off-liner I'd propably feel the same. I hope we'll one day (hopefully soon) see something like PWCG released by a third party.

 

In any case, I see a future for this game as a great SP experience too. Just don't hope it's too far down the road.

[Friedrich66]

Just ordered and looking forward to fly one of my favorite aircraft, the Me 110 

[RoteDreizehn]

I don't get that bit... BoS is not DCS in terms of intricacy .. but it is hardly sim light. Not by any stretch.. at least IMO..

 

 

This is called trolling a thread.. please stop it.

 

really hope that BOS/BOM will reach the DCS Level. This Game has a big potenial to be the best.

 

so I pray that the Dev´s will listen on the hardcore flyer´s

 

for Instance (wishes): Extended CEM, Clickpits, COOP

 

Dont want to troll, be calm

Edited April 1, 2015 by RoteDreizehn

[9./JG27golani79]

really hope that BOS/BOM will reach the DCS Level.

 

Don´t think that will ever happen.

[Bussard_x]

Will BOM have the same campaign set up as BOS?

[dburne]

I hear you EO. If I were a pure off-liner I'd propably feel the same. I hope we'll one day (hopefully soon) see something like PWCG released by a third party.

 

In any case, I see a future for this game as a great SP experience too. Just don't hope it's too far down the road.

 

My sentiments are pretty much the same as EO, as a pure off liner,  just hoping that they do something with the SP experience at some point.

 

My goodness, if they were just to do something like what they already have with ROF I would be much more excited.

[sallee]

Let's see... how to decide... one day at Disney World or unlimited days flying my favorite aircraft.

 

Hope the kids understand- I choose the BOM.

In time they'll thank you for not turning their brains into liquidised dog poo. Edited April 1, 2015 by sallee

[Bussard_x]

I hear you EO. If I were a pure off-liner I'd propably feel the same. I hope we'll one day (hopefully soon) see something like PWCG released by a third party.

In any case, I see a future for this game as a great SP experience too. Just don't hope it's too far down the road.

1CGS does not accept 3rd party add ons at the moment.

[ducs]

Why do so many people shy away from playing online... like 90% of combat flying is the human component.

[=69.GIAP=Shvak]

Sad day indeed. The crappy unlocks are still in place. No hint at anything like a real campaign or career mode. Just a case of throwing a new map at the masses and a handful of planes which I am sure were most likely going to be DLC content for BoS until sales dropped like a stone. Bringing out a shiny 'New' game does not make the IL2 BoS game a success. It failed dismally to deliver on core promises and instead of fixing a broken engine and an almost non-existent online or offline experience and working on give both offline and online players an immersive flight sim experience you have opted for a rinse and repeat in the hope of fooling some of the diehards to part with their cash. Other franchises use the pay to win model well, but to make standard and premium purchases two different games, one with a grind fest the other without has got to rank amongst the dumbest game design mechanics ever invented. Why would I part with $55 for the standard version? To fly online against pilots with more money than me who have unlocked everything? The title is apt BoM, because that is what it will do come release day. I will wait for the game on a steam sale.  

[HeavyCavalrySgt]

Why do so many people shy away from playing online... like 90% of combat flying is the human component.

 

 

For me, I just don't feel like there is any sense of continuity in the MP experience.  You don't have to worry about pilot or aircraft availability or mission planning, awards or promotions.  Every mission exists in a vacuum. 

 

Unfortunately, just like the SP experience.

[Finkeren]

 

Why do so many people shy away from playing online... like 90% of combat flying is the human component.

As someone who flies almost 50/50 (generally BoS for MP, RoF/IL2-1946 for SP) I can say that there's immense value to both. A good SP career or campaign can create unparallelled immersion while good MP can deliver endless challenge beyond anything AI can deliver.

[Stallion]

Why do so many people shy away from playing online... like 90% of combat flying is the human component.

 

Because a bunch of children decide that they will only fly the German planes and nothing else - they make the server 16v8 and cause all the players to quit out.  (I made a thread on this that really struck a nerve with the Luftwhiners)

 

Cliffs of Dover doesn't have this problem and there are scores of people online.

Edited April 1, 2015 by Stallion

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Because a bunch of children decide that they will only fly the German planes and nothing else - they make the server 16v8 and cause all the players to quit out. 

 

Cliffs of Dover doesn't have this problem and there are scores of people online.

 

[Stallion]

 

Save those tears, I still fly into the fire despite the odds.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Save those tears, I still fly into the fire despite the odds.

 

Edited April 1, 2015 by 4./JG26_Adler

[VPK_CARTOON]

For me, I just don't feel like there is any sense of continuity in the MP experience.  You don't have to worry about pilot or aircraft availability or mission planning, awards or promotions.  Every mission exists in a vacuum. 

 

Unfortunately, just like the SP experience.

A Commander is being developed on russian-speaking side. It is almost done - several hosts are testing it for bugs. The programmer is in touch with all of them daily. Wait for a little more. When the Commander is completed and tested hosts will be able to start their servers with statistics and war projects like VEF or ADW. Patience gentlemen . It will soon be so )))

Edited April 1, 2015 by VPK_CARTOON

[HeavyCavalrySgt]

A Commander is being developed on russian-speaking side. It is almost done - several hosts are testing it for bugs. The programmer is in touch with all of them daily. Wait for a little more. When the Commander is completed and tested hosts will be able to start their servers with statistics and war projects like VEF or ADW. Patience gentlemen . It will soon be so )))

 

Thank you!

[Uriah]

pre-ordered today. I understand nothing will be out tell July. I see a button for ACTIVATE. I don't need to do anything do I?

[dburne]

pre-ordered today. I understand nothing will be out tell July. I see a button for ACTIVATE. I don't need to do anything do I?

 

I think if you want your BOM founder tag you need to activate...

[Feathered_IV]

Infuriatingly there's just not enough to interest me. Even at half the advertised price.

 

As an offliner I still have no reason to fly BOS and as there has been no announcement about a decent campaign, if I bought BOM it'd just be a new set of unflown planes for me.

 

I'll clearly be better off waiting until the price drops and for the community to provide the campaigns.

 

Sorry I can't join in the celebration.

That is the problem for me too. The aircraft are really well done, but the SP experience is like something you would find in an App Store.

[AndyHill]

For me, I just don't feel like there is any sense of continuity in the MP experience.  You don't have to worry about pilot or aircraft availability or mission planning, awards or promotions.  Every mission exists in a vacuum. 

 

Unfortunately, just like the SP experience.

Ideally this doesn't have to be the case. In games like the '46 and Falcon 4 for example the single and multiplayer campaigns are essentially the same. If you want to fly alone or with friends (and/or enemies) it's your choice, the content is pretty much the same. I'm hoping to see something like that in the future of this franchise as well. I really don't see why the "single player mode" needs to be anything else than a special case of multiplayer where the number of participants = 1 and replicating events over a network is unnecessary.

Edited April 1, 2015 by AndyHill

[Pharoah]

Infuriatingly there's just not enough to interest me. Even at half the advertised price.

 

As an offliner I still have no reason to fly BOS and as there has been no announcement about a decent campaign, if I bought BOM it'd just be a new set of unflown planes for me.

 

I'll clearly be better off waiting until the price drops and for the community to provide the campaigns.

 

Sorry I can't join in the celebration.

 

Agreed. You can't ignore the SP campaign - the current 'campaign' looks/feels like it was thrown together at the last minute to just 'tick a box'. There's no real thought gone into it. I mean....as an IL2 pilot in the first couple of campaigns (which I've played so far), the choices are the same....either combat support where you go to the same battlefield with a row of arty or a row of tanks to kill...rinse and repeat...no variation, or ground attack which is just a subset of the support mission. There's no real career progression either. Online flying has been spoken about so I won't bother going into it, however the biggest issue is the team stacking on the Luftwaffe side. 

 

I would prefer the devs actually work on the SP campaign first before going to the next DLC.

[Uriah]

OOO OOO I got my tag.

[Danziger]

If I buy it now do I have to activate it now? I'm asking because I'm a truck driver over the road and I don't have a good gaming laptop with me yet.

[71st_AH_Hooves]

Question: What is much better than BoM?

This spoiler.......!

 

 

My god that looks awesome. I'll be stoked to come back to this when the summer maps hit.

[BMW801]

From my perspective, BoS keeps improving. Il2 and RoF took time to fully flourish as well.

We are constantly getting new free upgrades that keep improving the sim.

I am enjoying it now and it is still being steadily improved. I see  BoM as a further large add on of planes and maps, and the money I put down is further investment into the evolution of this project.

I am hoping that in addition to the periodic upgrades we are receiving for free, that there will be other aspects of the Eastern front and other theaters that keep being added as long as people keep purchasing what is being released.

I see great things in the future and I will keep throwing my money at these guys every step of the way.

[busdriver]

If I buy it now do I have to activate it now? I'm asking because I'm a truck driver over the road and I don't have a good gaming laptop with me yet.

I don't think so, unless you want the "bling" under your avatar.

Edited April 2, 2015 by busdriver

[smink1701]

I voted with my wallet to support the dev of BOM and the CFS category.  Money well spent if you don't want to see the category go away.

[Heywooood]

wow 80$ for preorder premium - thats more than I expected for the follow on to BoS....

its almost worth it to get out of the winter snow....and to fly the I-16 but....it isnt.

 

If every follow on title is going to be in this price range I cant do it...and I see people talking about supporting the genre, and ongoing development and improvements but guys - WWII is huge and to have if cut up and fed piecemeal at 80 or 90 or 100 per piece is in a word ridiculous.

 

I understand the cost of programming and maintaining servers and all of the peripherals so I get it - you want to be paid - not just fill a need, make ends meet.

 

But if you're telling me that its going to cost 4-500$ to get out of Russia - and another 4-500$ for Malta...and 1000$ for Western Europe...and what 1500$ for the Pacific Theater - I have to get off the ride

You have designed a solid combat flight sim platform - you have a system for online gameplay that is working well enough - you have all the big pieces in place already

 

Seriously - I wouldnt mind paying for aircraft one at a time - I'm not likely to fly half of what comes in the pack (BoS BoM) if the price for the map and campaign were reasonable....

I might as well just get a pilots license

[BraveSirRobin]

I might as well just get a pilots license

 

I think you'll find that is not as cost effective as you imagine it to be.

[Bearcat]

Enough of that.

[bjsracer]

Had to pull the trigger, much better than a night on the town :D

[Finkeren]

If I buy it now do I have to activate it now? I'm asking because I'm a truck driver over the road and I don't have a good gaming laptop with me yet.

So your nickname is to be taken litterally? It's not just a clever joke?

[Boomerang]

My god that looks awesome. I'll be stoked to come back to this when the summer maps hit.

Wow, look at that detail in the map! Impressive

[ZZ15_dasSofa]

if they add trim (every plane) to axsis, and patch the stuka that this plane feels like some art of real flying i will buy premium.

in my opinion, the game BOS today is in beta state.

 

i prefer CloD, it feels like a simulation!

[MelbourneFL]

Infuriatingly there's just not enough to interest me. Even at half the advertised price.

 

As an offliner I still have no reason to fly BOS and as there has been no announcement about a decent campaign, if I bought BOM it'd just be a new set of unflown planes for me.

 

I'll clearly be better off waiting until the price drops and for the community to provide the campaigns.

 

Sorry I can't join in the celebration.

 

I'm just feeling the same. I really like most things about BoS but it is a shame that they already did a pretty decent campaign for RoF and throw all of that away in BoS and apparently also for BoM. In the current state there is just no reason for me to fly BoS and there won't be any to fly BoM if there is no campaign worth mentioning. I would really, really, really like to buy BoM but in the current state of the campaign it would just be a waste of money.

 

Alexander

[I./JG1_Baron]

BoM pre-ordering is not just about the game itself - it's a statement of support and confidence development team. So I see and feel myself. 

[Freycinet]

Well, I am one of the sorry crowd that doesn't live a life surrounded by perfection. My wife isn't perfect, nor are my kids, my abode, my job, my TV, my car, my computer... - I'm sure BoM won't be perfect either, so it will actually fit right in with my imperfect BUT STILL PRETTY DAMN' GREAT life.

 

Waiting for perfection... - Yeah, I'll leave that to others.