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Difference between Pe-2 series 35 and 87?

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The only aeroplane overlap between the current Battle of Stalingrad ad the announced Battle of Moscow is the lovely Pe-2. The two are different versions, series 37 versus series 87. I have tried to find information on the difference between the two, but so far I've come up blank.

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It does have a rear gunner. The principal difference lies in its very limited armour, completely unprotected fuel tanks and generally lighter weight. As a result it's also significantly faster than its later incarnations. IIRC the S. 110 configuration could reach ca. 530km/h while the early Peshkas could go as fast as 580km/h, which means they could propably outrun the Bf 109E at low altitude.

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It does have a rear gunner. The principal difference lies in its very limited armour, completely unprotected fuel tanks and generally lighter weight. As a result it's also significantly faster than its later incarnations. IIRC the S. 110 configuration could reach ca. 530km/h while the early Peshkas could go as fast as 580km/h, which means they could propably outrun the Bf 109E at low altitude.

 

So, we're getting a "Schnellbomber" then? Cool!

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in compare with s87, have 2 main differences -

 

 

M-105RA instead of M-105PF

 

TSS-1 with SHKAS 7.62 mm instead of FT with UBT 12.7 mm

 

 

plus other minor changes..........

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btw here need to said that in BOS plane with M-105PF, what's a bit incorrect

 

 

so, Pe-2 s87 showed 505 kph at 5000 meters, in may'42 

 

serial Pe-2 №1035 was tested in NII VVS in august-september'41 and showed 445 kph at sl, 530 kph at 5000 meters and 10 min to 5000 m (7700 kg of normal weight, and without external bomb racks and bombs). 

 

ie almost like prototype........

 

speed with empty racks at 5000 meters - 508 kph, with 2xFAB-250 at external racks - 492 kph.

 

 

 

PS i remember my impressions from FIRST "Il-2" somewhere in very early 200X. campaign, summer-autumn'41, Pe-2 with SHKAS, my Bf 109 F-2 with MG 151/15, and working real german tactics of attack from 500-800 meters....... :biggrin:  :gamer:

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Yes,M105RA,which was M105PA with different propeller reduction.This engine was also rated for higher altitudes then PF.

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Is this the one with the offensive 20mm? I'm reading up on the 'Pe-3' with a 20mm offensive shvak and it saw extensive action in the Battle of Moscow.. Especially acting as escort.

Edited by Y-29.Silky

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Nope.

 

The Pe-3 is the Pe-3. It's quite a different machine. For one thing it's only got a crew of 2. It's got different armour, a generally lighter built and slightly higher performance than contemporary Pe-2s.

 

AFAIK no Pe-2 ever carried autocannon.

Edited by Finkeren

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in RL were several modifications of Pe-2 with 20 mm SHVAK in different configurations.

 

and i can't find more details (at this moment), but looks like there is nothing for realistic unlocks.

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Nope.

 

The Pe-3 is the Pe-3. It's quite a different machine. For one thing it's only got a crew of 2. It's got different armour, a generally lighter built and slightly higher performance than contemporary Pe-2s.

 

AFAIK no Pe-2 ever carried autocannon.

 

Oh yes, I remember that one. I used to have it as a faux Bf 110 againt my I-16 before we got an actual 110 (and a realistic I-16).

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"Unlock" for Pe-2:

Sure tovarish, as soon as tail mounted MG for He-111....

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...and personal spy pods for Ju 87 have been implemented.

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Does the Series 35 have more fuel capacity than the 87?

 

The series 35 has 21 litres more fuel than the series 87, according to this post.

 

There are also some fuel and mixture facts for the series 35 here.

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