The P40 thread

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

One thing that would actually make a ton of sense would be skinning up the MC. 202 as a Ki-61. Not only are the looks there, but perfomance wise it shouldn't be that far off.

Or simply skinning Bf 109 E-7, as Japanese had them for tests, in fact there was even consideration if they should produce them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or Japanese P-40E

 

 

[heinkill]

That looks so...wrong.

 

 

H

[BlitzPig_EL]

That looks so...wrong.

 

 

H

 

 

[Vex]

Been waiting for this. P-40 is my jam. Been 7 years since i skinned anything. 

 

[Elbows]

Awesome stuff there.  I just love that damn plane. :D

[Falco_Peregrinus]

Interesting opinion expressed by a British fighter pilot, Squadron Leader D.H. Clarke who fought in a P-40E against Macchi C.202 in North Africa. 

 

A real-hand experience.

From the book "What were they like to fly":

 

"...but the one type which everybody wanted to fly remained elusive until the Italian capitulation in 1943 - the exceptional, but to us, accursed, Macchi C.202.

Sleek, supremely fast - the sight of their high, white-crossed fin would have struck fear into our hearts had the Italians pressed home their attacks. The odd pilot proved that the 202 was capable of mixing it in a dogfight - out-turning our P-40s with ease; but the majority would pull away effortlessly into a climbing roll or a roll off the top when things became at all hectic. There is nothing more exasperating, when you are caning fifty-four inches of boost out of an engine, than to see your enemy indulge in carefree aerobatics; but although we did our damnedest to get near enough to shoot at them,we seldom succeeded. Their aircraft was superior to ours on all counts. No wonder we wanted to fly one..."

 

Can't wait to fly those 2 planes in BoS!

Edited March 10, 2015 by Ioshic

[Feathered_IV]

That looks so...wrong.

 

 

H

 

If things had gone a little differently, that photo might have been taken in Sydney.

[Lusekofte]

The P-40 performed very well at low altitudes in all theaters. But that is due to the pilots flying them. None of the pilots in med and pacific  was pushed into action without sufficient training. And their tactics using them was good.

It will not do you any good if you fly t different, and without a wingman

[Yakdriver]

one plane is a target... two planes are a weapons system

[II./JG77_Manu*]

one plane is a target...

 Plenty of pilots, both in real life and in simming proof you wrong

[Chuck_Owl]

 Plenty of pilots, both in real life and in simming proof you wrong

 

Pretty much every german ace agreed on the fact that you must always fly with a wingman whenever possible.

 

Loners might get kills for a while, but it's only a matter of time before they get their ass handed to them by pilots who work well as a team.

Edited March 10, 2015 by 71st_AH_Chuck

[heinkill]

Been waiting for this. P-40 is my jam. Been 7 years since i skinned anything. 

 

Better than awesome.

 

Hope you crank some of those for the BoS P40, it will make for some great missions esp when we get a new map.

 

H

[Yakdriver]

 Plenty of pilots, both in real life and in simming proof you wrong

not my words...

ask dat Lolwaffle dude with 100+ kills.

[II./JG77_Manu*]

Pretty much every german ace agreed on the fact that you must always fly with a wingman whenever possible.

 

Loners might get kills for a while, but it's only a matter of time before they get their ass handed to them by pilots who work well as a team.

 

Agreed of course. But there have been plenty of encounters where German Aces ended up alone, and had the better end against plenty of enemy planes. Hartmann against 12 Mustangs, Marseille against 20 P40 (shot down 7 of them) only the most known ones...

I am not an ace, in game while i prefer to fly with other People, i am mostly a lone wolf when it comes to "free hunt", and beside the Lagg and La doing good against multiple enemies most of the time. So i wouldn't say a good Pilot is only a "target" when flying alone

Of course, sooner or later you are being caught. But even with 2 or 3 squadmates that can happen

[Vex]

Many a il2 ace has been brought down by a couple of P-40's working as a team. Keeping altitude and knowing when to GTFO is key.

 

Edited March 11, 2015 by Vex

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Not really sure where all this love is coming from for the p40, I was under the impression that it was basically an underpowered pile of poo that basically was loved so much It was exported or given away or phased out as quickly as possible. I'm not saying this to start a beef just my feelings regardless of accuracy

Edited March 11, 2015 by AeroAce

[Vex]

The P-40 was had its faults, but it was a beast of a plane. Tough as nails and armed to the teeth. It was no high altitude super fighter, but it did everything else pretty damn well. It could turn fight with 109's, it could BnZ pretty good, although its climb speed suffered, it's dive speed was pretty epic. Was a great for low level bombing and strafing, carried a [Edited] of ammo.

 

It was just massively outdated by the time Italy came around and the US had P-47's and early P-51's to throw at the more high altitude combat.

 

The Aussies and the Americans were still throwing them around the pacific for ages. It suited the more aggressive environments because it was low tech and uncomplicated to repair. It also flew in every single theater of war from the desert to the Aleutians.

Edited March 11, 2015 by Bearcat

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Fair play

[79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer]

I guess you could say the P-40 is the American's Hurricane, tough and dependable, but overshadowed by more modern designs. It's only real fault is not having a 4 x Hispano armament like the Hurri Mk. IIc.

 

Yes, I admit it: I have a thing for Hurricanes.

Edited March 11, 2015 by 79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer

[Yakdriver]

Lolz...

 

a pair of hispanos would have suited her well.

she did everything "so-so" and you needed a favorable set of conditions to get her best results (engagement, pilot skill,...) but that's what i love on hte, because i am a lame fighter but an enthousiastic straffer.

 

let the lLavotschkins have the glory... up there... anywhere...

i will riddle a few more Opelblitzes with .50 gunfire and drop a 500lbs Egg on an Ammo dump.

 

and lean back, sip my cola and let a good fart rip

[79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer]

 but that's what i love on hte, because i am a lame fighter but an enthousiastic straffer.

 

 

That makes two of us.

[keeno]

Three!!!

[=LD=Hethwill]

Not really sure where all this love is coming from for the p40, I was under the impression that it was basically an underpowered pile of poo that basically was loved so much It was exported or given away or phased out as quickly as possible. I'm not saying this to start a beef just my feelings regardless of accuracy

 

Same could be said of all the models delivered to the Finnish airforce.

 

P-40 appreciation comes from 3 things. Ruggedness, firepower and dive & roll. It is enough for a interceptor/ground support model.

 

As the game doesn't work with strategic scope we must not care about maintenance and theatre of war comparisons BUT only with the task at hand.

 

Soviets always enjoyed cannons on the airplanes, since WW1, so it is no surprise they favoured the 'Cobras.

[heinkill]

Not really sure where all this love is coming from for the p40, I was under the impression that it was basically an underpowered pile of poo that basically was loved so much It was exported or given away or phased out as quickly as possible. I'm not saying this to start a beef just my feelings regardless of accuracy

 

Sorry but I think all this talk about performance misses the point entirely.

 

The P40 looks awesome. And I look awesome (virtually) sitting in one!

 

If you were twelve years old and standing in the model aisle at the toy store, and you only had twenty bucks, which model would you choose to build?

 

This one, because it could climb faster and roll better?

 

 

Or this one because it just looks like a real fighter plane should!

 

 

Yeah. Uh huh. Thass what I'm talkin' bout.

 

H

[heinkill]

It's like...this? (Yes yes probably a good ground attack aircraft, but not a Manplane. Could probably be automated and flown like a drone by a kid with a joystick in Utah).

 

 

or THIS

 

 

(Leans back, puffs cigar, swigs on a flask of napalm...basks in the glow of a debate put to bed.)

Edited March 12, 2015 by heinkill

[No601_Swallow]

I liked shark's teeth on my mount as much as the next seven-year-old, but I knew what a real fighter looked like. 

 

And it looked like this:

 

 

Always has and always will.

 

[Although, by the time I was eight and a half, no fighter was a fighter without ellipsoid wings, but that's a different story... ](Sorry to derail the thread - but truth will out!)

[DD_Arthur]

[Vex]

Sorry but I think all this talk about performance misses the point entirely.

 

The P40 looks awesome. And I look awesome (virtually) sitting in one!

 

If you were twelve years old and standing in the model aisle at the toy store, and you only had twenty bucks, which model would you choose to build?

 

This one, because it could climb faster and roll better?

 

 

Or this one because it just looks like a real fighter plane should!

 

 

Yeah. Uh huh. Thass what I'm talkin' bout.

 

H

That OK F plane is in my last skin picture, maybe flown by Slim Jowett 450 Squadron RAAF, 

[Sokol1]

Not really sure where all this love is coming from for the p40, 

 

 

Is not due this movie? 

 

[-TBC-AeroAce]

In all honesty I apart from the teeth I don't really think it's a good looking plane. Maybe iv got odd taste....

[Yakdriver]

hey beauty can be debated till easter and christmas are at the same date...
to me ahe is also appealing because she was almost everywhere.

africa... russia...aussieland...island hopping...

why does one like the Spitpest? Why do some have a craving for the 109? Why are some obsessed with the B-17?

beauty is not everything, and we love these planes similarly like we love other humans... for a thousand different weird reasons

[79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer]

In all honesty I apart from the teeth I don't really think it's a good looking plane. Maybe iv got odd taste....

 

You do. 

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Wow wo wo of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[BlitzPig_EL]

Well, those of us that like the Curtiss Hawks are not basing our fondness for them on their ability to rack up points in a video game.

 

A lot of you folks remind me if the people that base their car buying solely off it's performance statistics.  If car A is a tenth of a second faster to 100kph than car B it is the better car.

 

Pretty much rubbish really isn't it?

[heinkill]

0-60 mph

 

Do you want this (3.6 secs)

 

 

or THIS (4.1 sec)

 

 

Yeah, you know it.

 

P-40 baby.

 

[Nankeen]

Love the Curtiss P40's.

[II./JG77_Manu*]

0-60 mph

 

Do you want this (3.6 secs)

 

 

or THIS (4.1 sec)

 

 

Yeah, you know it.

 

P-40 baby.

 

I take the Lancer Evo any time ;-)

 

But P40 is Definitely one of the most beautiful planes of the war as well ("like a kid would imagine a proper WW2 fighter")

[heinkill]

I take the Lancer Evo any time ;-)

 

That's cool, more girls for me

 

H

 

I know this more you though, being Bavarian...

 

Edited March 13, 2015 by heinkill

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

P-40 b and c in the sheme of the flimg tigers are beautyfull, don't fin tge later P-40s as appealing though. Tom me the only plane looking beautyfull with a big airscope is my all time loved Ju 87

 

Really hoped devs implmented an early model but well they have their reasons.

[Chuck_Owl]

 

For me the P-40 is very special because it was used in some of the most difficult conditions of the war. It has a rugged look that I find very appealing. Hell, just look at what the Australians accomplished with it.

Edited March 13, 2015 by 71st_AH_Chuck