BraveSirRobin Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I really don't understand the frustration with Luthier. If you had problems with the level of communication during the development of CoD, why did you buy into DCS WW2?
AndyJWest Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Update 27 is out, the P-47 external 3d model looks really nice, just missing it's clothes, some pics of the 109 pit too. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts/734565?ref=activity If I'm not mistaken we are being shown 2 models of P-47 too, one has a dorsal extension from the fin. "Only one variant is going to make it into the final game, but it’ll be decided later once the programming begins." Looks good though. As does the Bf 109 cockpit. Edited January 31, 2014 by AndyJWest
DD_bongodriver Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Yeah I premed a bit and edited before I fully read the update.
Tektolnes Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I really don't understand the frustration with Luthier. If you had problems with the level of communication during the development of CoD, why did you buy into DCS WW2? Also to be fair he's been sending out fairly regular updates for the past while with info, screenshots showing progress, etc. There were updates on 31/01, 25/01, 18/01, 27/12, 14/12, 06/12, 22/11, 12/11, 01/11. It's not the exceptional 777 weekly regularity but still pretty decent for a games developer and sufficient for where they're at in the project. Hopefully the backers website will get sorted out in Feb as other than that I can't see anything to really gripe about. 1
siipperi Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 It's pretty safe to assume that they are working for ED. Sure they have 3rd party label but most likely most people working on that team are on ED or take salary straight from them. It's not like you can get too far with 150k. And why people are so negative about updates? When did we see first screenshots or map screenshots from bos? Clearly not in first few months of the development. Remember that they have been working with this only for 6 month soon. I would take once a month large updates over these smaller ones that show just obvious reconstructions of planes. I'm more interested in the map and how it looks but pretty safe to expect that we won't see anything too fancy before summer. 1
DD_bongodriver Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Update 28, not much to show, progress on the D9 manual and 1 shot of the 262 external 3d, looking good.https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts
LLv44_Mprhead Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Update 28, not much to show, progress on the D9 manual and 1 shot of the 262 external 3d, looking good. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts I was just thinking of that. And then I was thinking that couple of week ago I was thinking "It doesn't matter if there isn't that much to show, just make some kind of update!" Or maybe I think too much.
Tektolnes Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Sounds like the Dora is getting close to beta release if the manual is done. At least that's what I'm telling myself. Can't wait to fly that bird.
siipperi Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Dora was on hold before Christmas. So not sure if we see it in another few months if they don't push release to same point as dcs ww2.
Charlo-VRde Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 A screenshot of MS Word. Yay. Yeah, I honed in on that, too, since I was curious to see how he is designing the manual. That and there wasn't much else to look at in this update. Charlo
DD_bongodriver Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Hey, it's an update, what else do we need, it's all about updates and communication.
LLv44_Mprhead Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I much rather have an update that basically only says "we are working on it" than no update at all... 1
BraveSirRobin Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Because you think they might not be working on it?
steppenwolf Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I'm curious to see work on other parts of the game besides the aircraft. All these companies seem to have model making down pretty good.
LLv44_Mprhead Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Because you think they might not be working on it? Dunno, for some reason I feel that if you say you will try to make an update every friday, then it's good manners to also do so. I guess I'm just funny that way.
Feathered_IV Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 I'm curious to see work on other parts of the game besides the aircraft. All these companies seem to have model making down pretty good. I suspect there's not too much done in that area yet. Even BoS has a long way to go before gameplay elements are ready for consideration.
Trooper117 Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Ah well... while I'm waiting there is always this!
ram0506 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Ilya apparently needs some help on the FW190 . http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=121101
Sternjaeger Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 any updates on this? EDIT: Just saw the latest news, getting a bit of a deja-vu feeling growing on me atm..
Bladderburst Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 Still have bad stutter in DCS world and nothing seems to fix it.I was having a blast in my kamov until BS2. Shame.
johncage Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 i'm sorry, but dcs engine doesn't even have proper multicore support while il2 engine supports 4 cores. this is a must for any serious sim. you cna't expect to caculate ballistics, flight physics, etc with 1 core for everything and 1 pipeline on the second core for sound. that's why dcs slows the f down everytime you put more than 15 ai objects in the game.
Bounder Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) i'm sorry, but dcs engine doesn't even have proper multicore support while il2 engine supports 4 cores. this is a must for any serious sim. you cna't expect to caculate ballistics, flight physics, etc with 1 core for everything and 1 pipeline on the second core for sound. that's why dcs slows the f down everytime you put more than 15 ai objects in the game. Better multicore support would be great for DCS to go along with the graphical improvements coming in edge (direct x11 and 4 gpu support) but as I understand it's a massive undertaking as a lot of code must be rewritten and might not be possible right now. That said I don't agree with what you say about "15 ai objects" - my recent experience in the current patch, playing on the Dogs of War server with 20 AI fighters, 8-10 players and tons of active ground units has been smooth. Not saying these numbers are great but certainly better than that described - I doubt DCS will complete with pure numbers compared with CLoD or BoS but they're very different games (i.e. highly detailed study sim vs combat flight sims). I'm having just as much fun online in DCS with smaller numbers as I'm having flying CLoD with 80 players... and I hope to have lots of fun online in BoS in the future. Edited March 4, 2014 by No.64_Bounder
BMA_West Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) About the update #30, are we supposed to find our rewards under our DCS profile now??? Fat chance How could Luther possibly consider pulling that one off without contacting every Kickstarter participants individualy, beats me or he would have to consider starting accounts from scrats using our Kickstarter profile. Why would anything correspond like nickname or email address - that last one links me however, not the nick, probably already taken anyway .. Checked in of course & no joy. Anybody smarter than dumb me with idées? Tells enough one has to come in here trying to get some answers. Edited March 8, 2014 by West
DD_Arthur Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 Must admit I haven't paid much attention to this one lately. Whats the state of play at the moment - isn't there an Alpha due to be released very soon?
LLv44_Mprhead Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 Btw, ED published couple of WIP pictures of 190 D-9 yesterday. So there is at least work going on with that.
ST_ami7b5 Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 Must admit I haven't paid much attention to this one lately. Whats the state of play at the moment - isn't there an Alpha due to be released very soon? I'm afraid there is still quite a long way to Alpha...
Matt Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Release of the Alpha was "estimated" to be in February 2014. Beta in May 2014. This is what Luthier wrote in Update #26 in January: The order in which the planes will be completed is as follows. The FW.190D-9, in the development of which our team is also taking part, will be completed first (no ETA, not up to me too announce). The Bf.109K-4 will come next. Then the P-47. Then the Me.262. Then the Spitfire. The plan is still to release these piece-meal to all alpha-access backers as they are being done. So basically, backers might get alpha access, when the FW190 is completed and he can't say when that is, because it's not up to him (the project leader) to announce it. Which might mean, that he doesn't feel responsible for announcing delays with the planned alpha release either (which would explain why he didn't do that so far). Edited March 8, 2014 by Matt
BMA_West Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Not ready yet. Thx EA, pfff, for everybody the same I guess .... However the link + exemple of Luther's profile + "I guess the page is ready for the world" made me to presumpious I guess. Back to the garden for some spring tidying up, nice weather here! Edited March 8, 2014 by West
Tektolnes Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 So basically, backers might get alpha access, when the FW190 is completed and he can't say when that is, because it's not up to him (the project leader) to announce it. He can't announce the release date of the FW190 as that's an Eagle Dynamics led project. RRG have helped out with making the cockpit and some other stuff but any formal communication on when the FW190 beta will be released will come from Wags.
Feathered_IV Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 I remember reading Luthier's claim of a flyable alpha by last month. At the time I thought it was more inspired by BoS's development cycle than any realistic estimate of his own. One to two years would seem more realistic, particularly for the Beta. The 190 alone has been in development for a couple of years now, so I can't imagine how they can manage four more by the September date they've set themselves.
siipperi Posted March 9, 2014 Posted March 9, 2014 The 190 alone has been in development for a couple of years now, so I can't imagine how they can manage four more by the September date they've set themselves. Yep, fw190 have been compleatly sideproject for the ED. Btw. Those fw190 shots are running on the some kind of iteration of EDGE, which interest me much more than plane models at this point.
DD_bongodriver Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 New update.........OMG the 3D model of the P-47 looks amazing https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts
johncage Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 Yep, fw190 have been compleatly sideproject for the ED. Btw. Those fw190 shots are running on the some kind of iteration of EDGE, which interest me much more than plane models at this point. with edge, they're going to open up the second core. *snickers*
DD_bongodriver Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 I love a good peanut and caramel based confection.
Feathered_IV Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 I suddenly have an urge to play Take on Mars
gavagai Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 with edge, they're going to open up the second core. *snickers* There has been some confusion here. Right now DCS uses one core for the game and another for sound. So far as I know that will not change with edge, but it will finally make use of sli and crossfire.
siipperi Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 with edge, they're going to open up the second core. *snickers* Apparently you don't know what EDGE is.
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